[REQ] Better Enemy AI

sergei · 03-04-10, 02:40 AM

Having tried out the enemy AI in a few single missions, it seems rather gutless.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not out for a suicidal game, but it seems to me a game where you can run at flank speed across the bows of 5(!) destroyers in 42 without them even noticing you isn't much of a game at all.

For me the most exciting part of a sub game is not torpedoing a ship, but getting away afterward.

I'll be happily sitting here in my little corner, tweaking files to see what happens.
Probably no-one will even know I'm here.
You notice me and get any bright ideas, drop in here and let me know.

Ducimus · 03-04-10, 05:27 AM

If i publish just ONE mod for this game.

This will be it, no idea when.

JScones · 03-04-10, 05:32 AM

Just give in Ducimus, you know you will.

utops · 03-04-10, 09:06 AM

Hm
When AI gets theirs steroids, there will be no problem to pass any scripted mission or event? I mean, rebalancing scripted events may be necessary after that tweak...

skwasjer · 03-04-10, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

If i publish just ONE mod for this game.

This will be it, no idea when.

Oh no you won't! RESIST!

Sailor Steve · 03-04-10, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

If i publish just ONE mod for this game.

This will be it, no idea when.

It's like a potato chip: Nobody can eat just one.

Ducimus · 03-04-10, 12:40 PM

The thing is, i can probably whip it up fairly quickly. Getting a roughshod version up isn't a problem at all. The PITA is fine tuning it. Which i'm not gonna do. Instant someone comes up with an enviromental mod, its liable to be needing to be retuned. Or of a patch comes out and causes compatiblity issues.

No, i think ill toss up a 1.0 version, put in the who, whats, when, whys, and leave it as a template for the next yahoo.

Bilge_Rat · 03-04-10, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The thing is, i can probably whip it up fairly quickly. Getting a roughshod version up isn't a problem at all. The PITA is fine tuning it. Which i'm not gonna do. Instant someone comes up with an enviromental mod, its liable to be needing to be retuned. Or of a patch comes out and causes compatiblity issues.

No, i think ill toss up a 1.0 version, put in the who, whats, when, whys, and leave it as a template for the next yahoo.

I think a lot of people would be willing to help with testing, fine tuning. You are probably the most qualified to take the first shot, after all...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=enemy+ai

and where will SH5 be if it does not have an allied "Bungo Pete"...

Ducimus · 03-04-10, 02:29 PM

>>nd where will SH5 be if it does not have an allied "Bungo Pete"

You'll have the 2nd support group filling that role.

Ok, im sick of hearing people b*tching about the AI, gonna give it an initial look see. Trouble is, to REALLY work it, i need to make a single mission where i can set up a test in controled/constant conditions so i can better gauge the adjustments im making, and that new mission editor has me scratching my head like a monkey doing a math problem.

Sailor Steve · 03-04-10, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

and where will SH5 be if it does not have an allied "Bungo Pete"...

We'll have to call him "Johnny Walker".

Or maybe "Donald McIntyre".

Biscuit · 03-04-10, 11:31 PM

The aircraft AI needs some going over, i am at 135,000 tons and have never been attacked from the air. I get buzzed on nearly all missions but have never been attacked.
I appreciate the work you guys put into this, thanks.

03-04-10, 02:40 AM	#1
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	[REQ] Better Enemy AI Having tried out the enemy AI in a few single missions, it seems rather gutless. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not out for a suicidal game, but it seems to me a game where you can run at flank speed across the bows of 5(!) destroyers in 42 without them even noticing you isn't much of a game at all. For me the most exciting part of a sub game is not torpedoing a ship, but getting away afterward. I'll be happily sitting here in my little corner, tweaking files to see what happens. Probably no-one will even know I'm here. You notice me and get any bright ideas, drop in here and let me know.

03-04-10, 05:27 AM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If i publish just ONE mod for this game. This will be it, no idea when.

03-04-10, 05:32 AM	#3
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Just give in Ducimus, you know you will.

03-04-10, 09:06 AM	#4
utops Planesman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gdańsk,Poland Posts: 197 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 0	Hm When AI gets theirs steroids, there will be no problem to pass any scripted mission or event? I mean, rebalancing scripted events may be necessary after that tweak...

03-04-10, 12:40 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The thing is, i can probably whip it up fairly quickly. Getting a roughshod version up isn't a problem at all. The PITA is fine tuning it. Which i'm not gonna do. Instant someone comes up with an enviromental mod, its liable to be needing to be retuned. Or of a patch comes out and causes compatiblity issues. No, i think ill toss up a 1.0 version, put in the who, whats, when, whys, and leave it as a template for the next yahoo.

03-04-10, 02:29 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>nd where will SH5 be if it does not have an allied "Bungo Pete" You'll have the 2nd support group filling that role. Ok, im sick of hearing people b*tching about the AI, gonna give it an initial look see. Trouble is, to REALLY work it, i need to make a single mission where i can set up a test in controled/constant conditions so i can better gauge the adjustments im making, and that new mission editor has me scratching my head like a monkey doing a math problem.

03-04-10, 11:31 PM	#11
Biscuit Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The aircraft AI needs some going over, i am at 135,000 tons and have never been attacked from the air. I get buzzed on nearly all missions but have never been attacked. I appreciate the work you guys put into this, thanks.