Has Ubi abandoned us?

oscar19681 · 06-10-10, 07:02 PM

Ive seen it happen with the EA,S godfather 2 game (only they didnt even make a single patch but the game was a little better then sh5 out of the box) they cashed in and they never gave any more feedback on the forums ever again. Seems like the same policy Ubi has now. offcourse its a big mistake to buy something arcady like TGF2! But hey i loved the movies! Sad thing is that they still keep the forums up for TGF2 which is flooded with people having all sorts of problems that never ever got fixed by EA . Thank god we have modders and a good community! Though it would be evil to compare EA with Ubi , Ubi sure is hell going down that lane with the speed of light!

oscar19681 · 06-10-10, 07:29 PM

Keep them votes coming people! Hell! maybe this will even be on a spreadsheet for Ubi converance on monday morning!

Task Force · 06-10-10, 08:26 PM

This is probably the end of the road for silent hunter (IMO), they will release anouther patch probably, but subsim will hear about it through members in their forums. I think that ubi/devs are starting to part away from subsim.

Rockin Robbins · 06-10-10, 08:30 PM

Yes. No dev team. No more patches. Silence will reign. It's over.

Ducimus · 06-10-10, 08:44 PM

Pretty much.

Buddahaid · 06-10-10, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Pretty much.

Pretty sad, but what would you expect when aiming for your feet and hiting both soundly.

commandosolo2009 · 06-11-10, 04:46 AM

Guys it's over even a 2 years old could tell Ubi is shutting this down for Good. Sadly, were stuck with this.. I wish they hadnt rushed production and let devs finish their work.. I had all my saves online and now, I'm using another computer, cant get them to download and synchronise..

It's BYE BYE for SH series...

krashkart · 06-11-10, 05:34 AM

I hope you're wrong about that, commandosolo, but any time I've visited a dead forum for a game I tried to get help with I pretty much knew the company had left it to rot. Haven't been to the Ubi forums at all, except to see kylania's post, so there's the extent of my knowledge.

Sonarman · 06-11-10, 06:19 AM

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been.

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

krashkart · 06-11-10, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been.

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

Perhaps a larger portion of shareholders should be gamers. Wonder if enough resources could be pooled to form a gamer "lobby" of sorts? I think we'd have a stronger pull that way, rather than venting in useless threads.

Seeadler · 06-11-10, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

I think the shareholders are also not so happy

Brag · 06-11-10, 08:34 AM

Ignoring yhe wishes and needs of one's hard core customer base has never worked for a company. Ubi has commited a cardinal sin in marketing. I doubt very much they can recover from this fiasco.

GWX plus SH5 graphics without always online requirement could save the SH5 franchise. But does Ubi understand this simple fact?

janh · 06-11-10, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

How many times was that hope expressed in the past, particularly after SHIV release? I bet the decision to end SH franchise -- at least for an extended break -- was made by Ubi management already in autumn/winter 2009. To many indications and contradictions with Ubi's new "frequent release" strategy appeared until now, and the decisions to cut the game content and release it prior to thorough debugging and play testing, lack of communication etc -- this all fits only one scenario...

I think Ubisoft as a company is dedicated to make money, pay dividents and expand its reach. And do so with the least investments to get biggest return on those investment. Any franchise like detailed, realistic simulations of any kind do not exactly match that condition. I think they are simply refocusing on different consumer types and markets, and will leave the simulation market to small specialty companies with better expertise to do such "games" with huge dedication, but small market impacts.

SteamWake · 06-11-10, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago.

Dont confuse the nay sayers with factual accounts.

Noren · 06-11-10, 10:37 AM

Problem is, if they treat us like this: then why would we ever trust them again? Its not just SH-franchise but all their games.

I just saw a E3-interactive youtube-movie - posted on the SH5-ubiforum- and it made me feel sick, they talked about glamorous fan questions etc. What about us then?

View Poll Results: So what is Ubi up to regarding Silent hunter 5?
Ubi has abandoned the game there will be no more patches	59	25.21%
Ubi will give us another patch but they sure as hell aint telling us	33	14.10%
What sh-5 needs even more patching?	5	2.14%
Ubi is the bahamas and loads of our money but stepped on a sharp shell and need patching themselves.	8	3.42%
Ubi will nolonger release patches but will release an addon which will be the final patch	22	9.40%
Seriously i think this is a the end of the line for patches AND Silent Hunter series	107	45.73%
Voters: 234. You may not vote on this poll

06-10-10, 07:02 PM	#1
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Has Ubi abandoned us? Ive seen it happen with the EA,S godfather 2 game (only they didnt even make a single patch but the game was a little better then sh5 out of the box) they cashed in and they never gave any more feedback on the forums ever again. Seems like the same policy Ubi has now. offcourse its a big mistake to buy something arcady like TGF2! But hey i loved the movies! Sad thing is that they still keep the forums up for TGF2 which is flooded with people having all sorts of problems that never ever got fixed by EA . Thank god we have modders and a good community! Though it would be evil to compare EA with Ubi , Ubi sure is hell going down that lane with the speed of light! __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971 Last edited by oscar19681; 06-10-10 at 07:27 PM.

06-10-10, 07:29 PM	#2
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Keep them votes coming people! Hell! maybe this will even be on a spreadsheet for Ubi converance on monday morning! __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

06-10-10, 08:26 PM	#3
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	This is probably the end of the road for silent hunter (IMO), they will release anouther patch probably, but subsim will hear about it through members in their forums. I think that ubi/devs are starting to part away from subsim. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

06-10-10, 08:30 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Yes. No dev team. No more patches. Silence will reign. It's over. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-10-10, 08:44 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Pretty much.

06-11-10, 04:46 AM	#7
commandosolo2009 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 840 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Guys it's over even a 2 years old could tell Ubi is shutting this down for Good. Sadly, were stuck with this.. I wish they hadnt rushed production and let devs finish their work.. I had all my saves online and now, I'm using another computer, cant get them to download and synchronise.. It's BYE BYE for SH series... __________________ x.com/lexatnews

06-11-10, 05:34 AM	#8
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I hope you're wrong about that, commandosolo, but any time I've visited a dead forum for a game I tried to get help with I pretty much knew the company had left it to rot. Haven't been to the Ubi forums at all, except to see kylania's post, so there's the extent of my knowledge. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

06-11-10, 06:19 AM	#9
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,392 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been. Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms. Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders. __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software.

06-11-10, 08:34 AM	#12
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ignoring yhe wishes and needs of one's hard core customer base has never worked for a company. Ubi has commited a cardinal sin in marketing. I doubt very much they can recover from this fiasco. GWX plus SH5 graphics without always online requirement could save the SH5 franchise. But does Ubi understand this simple fact? __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-11-10, 10:37 AM	#15
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Problem is, if they treat us like this: then why would we ever trust them again? Its not just SH-franchise but all their games. I just saw a E3-interactive youtube-movie - posted on the SH5-ubiforum- and it made me feel sick, they talked about glamorous fan questions etc. What about us then?