[WIP] Reworked Ship ID Manual

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 01:52 PM

I have started to redo the Ship ID's due to TheDarkWraiths brilliant UI Mods.
Due to the Torpedo Draft Depth no longer being visable in his UI, I required a visual feedback for the Draft depths of targets.

I am currentl putting the following info on to each ships ID pic.
Lenght, Mast Height and Draft depth.

Is this sufficent or do think anything else should be present?

dagamecat · 03-13-10, 01:59 PM

Looks good, how about tonnage?

TheDarkWraith · 03-13-10, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by reaper7

I have started to redo the Ship ID's due to TheDarkWraiths brilliant UI Mods.
Due to the Torpedo Draft Depth no longer being visable in his UI, I required a visual feedback for the Draft depths of targets.

I am currentl putting the following info on to each ships ID pic.
Lenght, Mast Height and Draft depth.

Is this sufficent or do think anything else should be present?

torpedo draft depth has been put back in (see here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...58&postcount=1). It's in the TDC mod released and will be put back in my other UI mods here very soon after I help AOTD_Rhonen with his recognition manual mod.

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dagamecat

Looks good, how about tonnage?

Yes that should be no problem.
Looking at for example the AMC Patrolus its config file we have a displacement value of 11198. I take it this is the Tonnage value, can anyone confirm.

[Unit]
ClassName=AMCPatroclus
3DModelFileName=data/Sea/NAMC_Rawalpindi/NAMC_Rawalpindi
UnitType=13
MaxSpeed=15
Length=147
Width=18.1
Mast=39.3
Draft=5.8
Displacement=11198
DisplacementVariation=10
RenownAwarded=220
CrewComplement=40
SurvivalRate=70
SurvivalPercentage=40
RecManualCategory=TroopTransport
BowShape=Plumb
Funnels=2
ShowInRecognitionManual=Yes
;ShowInRecognitionManual=No
;*********** THE END ************

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

torpedo draft depth has been put back in (see here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...58&postcount=1). It's in the TDC mod released and will be put back in my other UI mods here very soon after I help AOTD_Rhonen with his recognition manual mod.

When you say your putting it back in to your UI mods, does that mean your taking out some of the dails in (Old Style SH Controls) UI Mod to be like your new (TDC (with minimal dials using stock interface) for SH5).
I prefer the style of the full dial type over Sh5 futuristic style with dragable torp depth shown visually.

Your Old_Style_UI version is very close to this:

For me this would be the ultimate frontend for silent hunter 5.

TheDarkWraith · 03-13-10, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by reaper7

Ah ok, so there's prob no need for me to go any further with this.
When you say your putting it back in to your UI mods, does that mean your taking out some of the dails in (Old Style SH Controls) UI Mod to be like your new (TDC (with minimal dials using stock interface) for SH5).

it'll come with both versions of the TDC. You can either have all the TDC or the minimal dials version.

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

it'll come with both versions of the TDC. You can either have all the TDC or the minimal dials version.

Ah. thats great news. Had a lookt through the threads and found AOTD_Rhonens WIP recog manual.
Looking at his I don't think theres any point going any further with mine.
Still look forward to were your taking your UI Mods.
Is there a chance you could create some backgrounds for your dials to give them the look of the pic above.

TheDarkWraith · 03-13-10, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by reaper7

Ah. thats great news. Had a lookt through the threads and found AOTD_Rhonens WIP recog manual.
Looking at his I don't think theres any point going any further with mine.
Still look forward to were your taking your UI Mods.
Is there a chance you could create some backgrounds for your dials to give them the look of the pic above.

if you or someone can supply the graphics I'd be more than happy to incorporate them. I'm not a graphic guy - I'm a programmer.

jdkbph · 03-13-10, 02:47 PM

With naval vessels displacement = tonnage.

Merchies OTOH are usually measured by volume (GWT).

I'm guessing from what you posted they didn't bother with two separate systems and went with displacement across the board.

JD

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

if you or someone can supply the graphics I'd be more than happy to incorporate them. I'm not a graphic guy - I'm a programmer.

karamazovnew has them available already, can be got at http://www.filefront.com/15085455/KiUB%20Tools.zip.
All dial graphics and background are in the layered photoshop image.

PM sent.

wildcards · 03-13-10, 05:09 PM

Great work Reaper7, can't wait to get my hands on that improved ID manual

gutted · 03-13-10, 05:09 PM

If you are going through the files by hand and extracting the ship info, i can help with that.

I wrote a small utility that fetches all of that info for you. If you need it .pm me. I used it to get the ship lenght's for my speed solver.

[edit] oh wait, i see all you had to do was change "ShowInRecognitionManual=No" to Yes.

TheDarkWraith · 03-13-10, 05:10 PM

Reaper7 I would continue work on your mod. The recognition manual from AOTD_rhoenen is not functioning correctly yet.

I would like to incorporate your changes into my UI mods. Please PM me with details if I can.

reaper7 · 03-13-10, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gutted

[edit] oh wait, i see all you had to do was change "ShowInRecognitionManual=No" to Yes.

No photoshopping all the images at the moment, slow process.
Think the showinRecognitionManual command just displays that ship in the manual, eg floating_sailor and icebergs are set to no.
Seen your utility in the main forum, have downloaded. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Reaper7 I would continue work on your mod. The recognition manual from AOTD_rhoenen is not functioning correctly yet.

I would like to incorporate your changes into my UI mods. Please PM me with details if I can.

Ok had stopped work on my Mod, But if AOTD_Rhoenen is not working will continue development. It would be handy for those that want the stock look.

gutted · 03-13-10, 07:33 PM

If you need to, i can modify it for you to show which folder the data was extracted from (.ie the classname)

The "friendly" names and class names the game uses in files may not always be distinguishable.

Example:

Large Italian Liner = NPL_ConteVerde

03-13-10, 01:52 PM	#1
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	[WIP] Reworked Ship ID Manual I have started to redo the Ship ID's due to TheDarkWraiths brilliant UI Mods. Due to the Torpedo Draft Depth no longer being visable in his UI, I required a visual feedback for the Draft depths of targets. I am currentl putting the following info on to each ships ID pic. Lenght, Mast Height and Draft depth. Is this sufficent or do think anything else should be present?

03-13-10, 05:09 PM	#12
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	If you are going through the files by hand and extracting the ship info, i can help with that. I wrote a small utility that fetches all of that info for you. If you need it .pm me. I used it to get the ship lenght's for my speed solver. [edit] oh wait, i see all you had to do was change "ShowInRecognitionManual=No" to Yes. __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids

03-13-10, 07:33 PM	#15
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	If you need to, i can modify it for you to show which folder the data was extracted from (.ie the classname) The "friendly" names and class names the game uses in files may not always be distinguishable. Example: Large Italian Liner = NPL_ConteVerde __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids

03-13-10, 01:59 PM	#2
dagamecat Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Looks good, how about tonnage?

03-13-10, 02:47 PM	#9
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	With naval vessels displacement = tonnage. Merchies OTOH are usually measured by volume (GWT). I'm guessing from what you posted they didn't bother with two separate systems and went with displacement across the board. JD

03-13-10, 05:09 PM	#11
wildcards Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 46 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Great work Reaper7, can't wait to get my hands on that improved ID manual

03-13-10, 05:10 PM	#13
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Reaper7 I would continue work on your mod. The recognition manual from AOTD_rhoenen is not functioning correctly yet. I would like to incorporate your changes into my UI mods. Please PM me with details if I can.