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reaper7 03-13-10 01:52 PM

[WIP] Reworked Ship ID Manual
 
I have started to redo the Ship ID's due to TheDarkWraiths brilliant UI Mods.
Due to the Torpedo Draft Depth no longer being visable in his UI, I required a visual feedback for the Draft depths of targets.

I am currentl putting the following info on to each ships ID pic.
Lenght, Mast Height and Draft depth.

Is this sufficent or do think anything else should be present?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...05/Ship-ID.jpg

dagamecat 03-13-10 01:59 PM

Looks good, how about tonnage?

TheDarkWraith 03-13-10 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7 (Post 1313235)
I have started to redo the Ship ID's due to TheDarkWraiths brilliant UI Mods.
Due to the Torpedo Draft Depth no longer being visable in his UI, I required a visual feedback for the Draft depths of targets.

I am currentl putting the following info on to each ships ID pic.
Lenght, Mast Height and Draft depth.

Is this sufficent or do think anything else should be present?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...05/Ship-ID.jpg


torpedo draft depth has been put back in (see here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...58&postcount=1). It's in the TDC mod released and will be put back in my other UI mods here very soon after I help AOTD_Rhonen with his recognition manual mod.

reaper7 03-13-10 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagamecat (Post 1313245)
Looks good, how about tonnage?

Yes that should be no problem.
Looking at for example the AMC Patrolus its config file we have a displacement value of 11198. I take it this is the Tonnage value, can anyone confirm.

[Unit]
ClassName=AMCPatroclus
3DModelFileName=data/Sea/NAMC_Rawalpindi/NAMC_Rawalpindi
UnitType=13
MaxSpeed=15
Length=147
Width=18.1
Mast=39.3
Draft=5.8
Displacement=11198
DisplacementVariation=10
RenownAwarded=220
CrewComplement=40
SurvivalRate=70
SurvivalPercentage=40
RecManualCategory=TroopTransport
BowShape=Plumb
Funnels=2
ShowInRecognitionManual=Yes
;ShowInRecognitionManual=No
;*********** THE END ************

reaper7 03-13-10 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1313250)
torpedo draft depth has been put back in (see here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...58&postcount=1). It's in the TDC mod released and will be put back in my other UI mods here very soon after I help AOTD_Rhonen with his recognition manual mod.

When you say your putting it back in to your UI mods, does that mean your taking out some of the dails in (Old Style SH Controls) UI Mod to be like your new (TDC (with minimal dials using stock interface) for SH5).
I prefer the style of the full dial type over Sh5 futuristic style with dragable torp depth shown visually.

Your Old_Style_UI version is very close to this:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2927/kiub.jpg
For me this would be the ultimate frontend for silent hunter 5.

TheDarkWraith 03-13-10 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7 (Post 1313276)
Ah ok, so there's prob no need for me to go any further with this.
When you say your putting it back in to your UI mods, does that mean your taking out some of the dails in (Old Style SH Controls) UI Mod to be like your new (TDC (with minimal dials using stock interface) for SH5).

it'll come with both versions of the TDC. You can either have all the TDC or the minimal dials version.

reaper7 03-13-10 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1313289)
it'll come with both versions of the TDC. You can either have all the TDC or the minimal dials version.

Ah. thats great news. Had a lookt through the threads and found AOTD_Rhonens WIP recog manual.
Looking at his I don't think theres any point going any further with mine.
Still look forward to were your taking your UI Mods.
Is there a chance you could create some backgrounds for your dials to give them the look of the pic above. :yeah:

TheDarkWraith 03-13-10 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7 (Post 1313306)
Ah. thats great news. Had a lookt through the threads and found AOTD_Rhonens WIP recog manual.
Looking at his I don't think theres any point going any further with mine.
Still look forward to were your taking your UI Mods.
Is there a chance you could create some backgrounds for your dials to give them the look of the pic above. :yeah:

if you or someone can supply the graphics I'd be more than happy to incorporate them. I'm not a graphic guy - I'm a programmer.

jdkbph 03-13-10 02:47 PM

With naval vessels displacement = tonnage.

Merchies OTOH are usually measured by volume (GWT).

I'm guessing from what you posted they didn't bother with two separate systems and went with displacement across the board.

JD

reaper7 03-13-10 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1313313)
if you or someone can supply the graphics I'd be more than happy to incorporate them. I'm not a graphic guy - I'm a programmer.

karamazovnew has them available already, can be got at http://www.filefront.com/15085455/KiUB%20Tools.zip.
All dial graphics and background are in the layered photoshop image. :up:
PM sent.

wildcards 03-13-10 05:09 PM

Great work Reaper7, can't wait to get my hands on that improved ID manual

gutted 03-13-10 05:09 PM

If you are going through the files by hand and extracting the ship info, i can help with that.

I wrote a small utility that fetches all of that info for you. If you need it .pm me. I used it to get the ship lenght's for my speed solver.


[edit] oh wait, i see all you had to do was change "ShowInRecognitionManual=No" to Yes.

TheDarkWraith 03-13-10 05:10 PM

Reaper7 I would continue work on your mod. The recognition manual from AOTD_rhoenen is not functioning correctly yet.

I would like to incorporate your changes into my UI mods. Please PM me with details if I can.

reaper7 03-13-10 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutted (Post 1313628)
[edit] oh wait, i see all you had to do was change "ShowInRecognitionManual=No" to Yes.

No photoshopping all the images at the moment, slow process.
Think the showinRecognitionManual command just displays that ship in the manual, eg floating_sailor and icebergs are set to no.
Seen your utility in the main forum, have downloaded. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1313630)
Reaper7 I would continue work on your mod. The recognition manual from AOTD_rhoenen is not functioning correctly yet.

I would like to incorporate your changes into my UI mods. Please PM me with details if I can.

Ok had stopped work on my Mod, But if AOTD_Rhoenen is not working will continue development. It would be handy for those that want the stock look.

gutted 03-13-10 07:33 PM

If you need to, i can modify it for you to show which folder the data was extracted from (.ie the classname)

The "friendly" names and class names the game uses in files may not always be distinguishable.


Example:

Large Italian Liner = NPL_ConteVerde


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