Dugout canoe range difficulties

spork542 · 01-06-07, 01:52 PM

In GWX, at 9 knots, I can't even get a Type IIA to last 5 days before it runs out of fuel. What in blazes? This is unacceptable. I'm not one to complain about range, but this is just impossible. The IIs were usually at sea for about 2 weeks on end and I can't keep mine at sea for any more than 5 days?!

irish1958 · 01-06-07, 01:57 PM

The most fuel efficient speed is probably 6 or 7 Knts not 9. To check which speed is best, after you are out of port set the speed at various values and ask the navigator what range you have at that speed. Make sure you are not in recharge mode when you do this. You will have enough fuel for two weeks.

spork542 · 01-06-07, 02:27 PM

Alright. I'll try that. I'm used to the most fuel-efficient speed being 9 knots, but that's in a VII or IX boat. Thank you.

Jimbuna · 01-06-07, 02:29 PM

Don't forget to dock with the milch cow as you leave the harbour :rotfl:

azn_132 · 01-06-07, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1958

The most fuel efficient speed is probably 6 or 7 Knts not 9. To check which speed is best, after you are out of port set the speed at various values and ask the navigator what range you have at that speed. Make sure you are not in recharge mode when you do this. You will have enough fuel for two weeks.

Half of the time I play witout the limited fuel option because Im not wastin my time goin 8 or 9 knots when I have other thangs to do.

LeafsFan · 01-06-07, 04:12 PM

They didn't call them einbaum for nothing.

HB

Sailor Steve · 01-06-07, 04:51 PM

Ahead 1/3. Runs about 6 knots. Three to four weeks travel time, if you go Ahead Slow while in the patrol zone. Probably they didn't have that much food.

azn_132 · 01-06-07, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Ahead 1/3. Runs about 6 knots. Three to four weeks travel time, if you go Ahead Slow while in the patrol zone. Probably they didn't have that much food.

Food is not important in SH3 fuel is.

Corsair · 01-06-07, 05:29 PM

In real U boats, it was...

azn_132 · 01-06-07, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsair

In real U boats, it was...

Maybe if u mod the crew eatin then yeah.

LeafsFan · 01-06-07, 05:45 PM

The men can eat Bernard when they get hungry!!

HB

Sailor Steve · 01-06-07, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by azn_132

Food is not important in SH3 fuel is.

1) It was sort of a joke.
2) Some of us strive for realism, even if it's not in the game. I found that with proper fuel management I could keep a type VIIb out for 85 days. Hardly realistic, and I try not to do it anymore. I try to imagine I'm really the captain, with all his problems.

Brag · 01-06-07, 06:05 PM

If ya renezvous with a Milchkuh outside the harbour, you can do a victory lap by the dock

Oesten · 01-06-07, 06:30 PM

Sailor Steve is right.

Cruising speed for a Type IIA should be 1/3 speed, which is about 7 knots in calm seas, 6 knots in heavy seas.

Once in the patrol area, I cruise submerged in daylight at slow speed, which allows for hydrophone searching, then recharge the batteries on the surface at night also at slow speed.

Using this method, a Type II can even reach Scapa Flow from Kiel, patrol for a couple of days then return to base. You should be able to stay at sea for 14 days that way.

Iron Budokan · 01-06-07, 08:00 PM

9 knots is way too fast for those little dugout canoes. Slow or 1/3 is best...same goes for the bigger boats, too. Fuel is crucial. You will always have oranges in your command center, along with a ham and bananas. But you can run out of fuel darn fast if you crank up the engines.

01-06-07, 01:52 PM	#1
spork542 Chief Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 328 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Dugout canoe range difficulties In GWX, at 9 knots, I can't even get a Type IIA to last 5 days before it runs out of fuel. What in blazes? This is unacceptable. I'm not one to complain about range, but this is just impossible. The IIs were usually at sea for about 2 weeks on end and I can't keep mine at sea for any more than 5 days?! __________________

01-06-07, 01:57 PM	#2
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	endurance The most fuel efficient speed is probably 6 or 7 Knts not 9. To check which speed is best, after you are out of port set the speed at various values and ask the navigator what range you have at that speed. Make sure you are not in recharge mode when you do this. You will have enough fuel for two weeks. __________________ Irish1958

01-06-07, 02:27 PM	#3
spork542 Chief Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 328 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Alright. I'll try that. I'm used to the most fuel-efficient speed being 9 knots, but that's in a VII or IX boat. Thank you. __________________

01-06-07, 02:29 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Don't forget to dock with the milch cow as you leave the harbour :rotfl: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-06-07, 04:51 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Ahead 1/3. Runs about 6 knots. Three to four weeks travel time, if you go Ahead Slow while in the patrol zone. Probably they didn't have that much food. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	They didn't call them einbaum for nothing. HB

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Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	In real U boats, it was... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

01-06-07, 05:45 PM	#11
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The men can eat Bernard when they get hungry!! HB

01-06-07, 06:05 PM	#13
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01-06-07, 06:30 PM	#14
Oesten A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 79 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Sailor Steve is right. Cruising speed for a Type IIA should be 1/3 speed, which is about 7 knots in calm seas, 6 knots in heavy seas. Once in the patrol area, I cruise submerged in daylight at slow speed, which allows for hydrophone searching, then recharge the batteries on the surface at night also at slow speed. Using this method, a Type II can even reach Scapa Flow from Kiel, patrol for a couple of days then return to base. You should be able to stay at sea for 14 days that way.

01-06-07, 08:00 PM	#15
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	9 knots is way too fast for those little dugout canoes. Slow or 1/3 is best...same goes for the bigger boats, too. Fuel is crucial. You will always have oranges in your command center, along with a ham and bananas. But you can run out of fuel darn fast if you crank up the engines. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com