SOS! Fustration mounting!

[DvlHownd]

I did the dreaded “upgrade” to Windows 7 Pro 64Bit after years of running SH4 1.4 with various mods with Windows XP.

Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
New 1TB hard drive
16GB of RAM
AMD Phenon II X3 710 2.6-GHz Processor (retread from last motherboard)
GeForce 520
MSI 970A-G46/970S-G46 motherboard
LG Monitor 1920 x 1080 60HZ (recommended)

I am getting nowhere.I have done the default install C:\Program Files (x86), install the 1.4 patch and get about five minutes into a game and *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen – reset- prompt to reboot to safe mode.OK, so I read some forums and folks say to install into C:\UBISoft and bypass the default. So I uninstall, delete the directory, clean the registry of all ubisoft/sh4 /JSGME entries and try that. Same results: *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen – reset- prompt to reboot to safe mode. Now I go through the process again: uninstall-delete any directories-registry clean-reboot-reinstall.No shortcut has ever appeared on the desktop after installation so I make one. After reading more forums, I try the suggestion of changing the shortcut icon properties to run in Windows XP (SP3) mode. Nope. Five minutes into the game; *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen – reset- prompt to reboot to safe mode. So once again uninstall, clean registry, reboot, install. This time I try the suggestion of disable display scaling on high DPI settings. Five or so minutes into game and *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen – reset- prompt to reboot to safe mode. So now thinking I could try to take advantage of more RAM, I try the CCF explorer program to let the SHE.exe file handle >2GB address space. Change the settings and nope, five minutes later; *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen – reset- prompt to reboot to safe mode. I know it can be installed and ran as we knew it in Windows XP. Many folks are out there saying “runs fine”, “installed with no problems”, “smooth sailing”, “no hiccups”. Well I’m in a friggin typhoon and I’m getting seasick! I defer to the more knowledgeable sailors in this forum to provide me with a compass course to get me out of this maelstrom.

[fastbikkel]

I am feeling sorry for you man.
Now i do not have a fixed solution for you, but it would not hurt to check this :
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166943

I have severe trouble with SC and it could be that some options might work for you.
In my case SC is still not working, but there could be a chance that some suggestions work for you.
(Emulation, selecting a single core, just to name 2 things)

I have even read somewhere a suggestion to check some graphics settings. Try and mingle all your graphic card options, turn everything off.

[Aktungbby]

DvlHownd!on your first post since joining-a long lurk indeed!

[ETR3(SS)]

When it goes to the black screen what are you doing in-game? Is it always the same thing?

[raymond6751]

I'm running SH4 on Win 7 but I had to download the gold version from Ubisoft again. My disk version would not work.

I even downloaded (bought again) a version of SH3 from steam and it runs.

Have heart. Save your save games & campaigns found in your My Docs and restore them later.

At least they are cheap to buy again. It is frustrating I know. I had purchased extra copies of the disk games so I would have back ups!! Useless now.

Good luck.

[Fizwalker]

I really can't help you with the crashes... But I bought SH4 off of Amazon and downloaded it a few days ago for $10. To verify that it works, I run Win 7 Ultimate 64 with 16GB of RAM and a FX9530 chip and an ATI HD 7800 video card--I could be remembering my vid card wrong as I am not in front of my computer right now.

[Akotalaya]

im on windows 7 and have never had that problem, hang in there im sure there's something for you out there!i wish you luck!

[merc4ulfate]

Is the graphic card set to run all GPU's? Sometimes by default the setting is using the Main Boards GPU instead of the Graphics card. Make sure the setting is GPU only and that it's resolution is compatible with game.

This should not be a single core dual core issue. I have ran into that but only in modern games having to be turned down to single core. Silent hunter works fine as a dual core processed game.

Have you thought about partitioning your Terabyte drive and allowing it to have a smaller partition for the OS and use another for program installations? Having the OS on a separate drive or partition is always best practice especially the separate drive version. I never load programs onto a drive that contains an OS unless it application was specifically coded to run on no other drive than a system drive.

Recheck your RAM voltage settings. Check your bios to see if the XMP settings are correct and that the frequency matches your RAMs. Turn it "off" auto and set it according to the Ram Manufactures frequency setting.

I would also check your default settings for the graphics cards against these known good settings for Nividia. After you rebuilt this everything most likely went back to zero on the default side.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128517

[THEBERBSTER]

I would suggest that having spent a lot of money updating windows you would do well to upgrade to the dvd 'Wolves of the Pacific' which also comes with extras and will upgrade you from v1.4 to v1.5.

The dvd is quite cheap these days from Amazon.

You will also benefit from a bigger variety of mods available.

You should not install in the 'Program x86 Folder.'

it would be better to install simply in C:\SH4 and let the installation do the rest as it will also install a 'SH4 Folder' in your 'Documents Folder.'

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome to SUBSIM DvlHownd

I hope you get it sorted. I have Windows 8.1 so I cannot really help you. Hang in there and folks who have 7 will help you get this done

SUBSIM is a great community with very helpful members.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by fastbikkel

I am feeling sorry for you man.
Now i do not have a fixed solution for you, but it would not hurt to check this :
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166943

I have severe trouble with SC and it could be that some options might work for you.
In my case SC is still not working, but there could be a chance that some suggestions work for you.
(Emulation, selecting a single core, just to name 2 things)

I have even read somewhere a suggestion to check some graphics settings. Try and mingle all your graphic card options, turn everything off.

Tried it again tonight with everything very "vanilla"... Still crashes. The search continues.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

DvlHownd!on your first post since joining-a long lurk indeed!

Yes sir it was. But anytime I ever needed information, the answer was already posted here by the wealth of knowledge that resides here. I chose the Mark Twain school of thought that it is better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool that to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

When it goes to the black screen what are you doing in-game? Is it always the same thing?

I thought I saw a pattern in crashing when hitting F4 to watch a torpedo hit but then thought about your question and stayed in the tactical screen but it still crashed.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

Is the graphic card set to run all GPU's? Sometimes by default the setting is using the Main Boards GPU instead of the Graphics card. Make sure the setting is GPU only and that it's resolution is compatible with game. Was set to run on GPU - set to run as Nvidia to try that

This should not be a single core dual core issue. I have ran into that but only in modern games having to be turned down to single core. Silent hunter works fine as a dual core processed game. No option to change (that my ineptness can find)

Have you thought about partitioning your Terabyte drive and allowing it to have a smaller partition for the OS and use another for program installations? Having the OS on a separate drive or partition is always best practice especially the separate drive version. I never load programs onto a drive that contains an OS unless it application was specifically coded to run on no other drive than a system drive. The idea/plan/goal/pipe dream is, that once everything gets running with stability, I'll be putting all games and extraneous programs on the original 650GB hard drive after formatting it and turning it into the "D:\" drive. Hey, a man can dream can't he?

Recheck your RAM voltage settings. Check your bios to see if the XMP settings are correct and that the frequency matches your RAMs. Turn it "off" auto and set it according to the Ram Manufactures frequency setting.
Good call! I found that the settings for the DDR3 RAM to be much lower than what they were rated for. I reset to match the capabilities that I paid for. We'll see what that did in a few moments. Thank you!
I would also check your default settings for the graphics cards against these known good settings for Nividia. After you rebuilt this everything most likely went back to zero on the default side. You are correct. Everything went to the "computer side of things" so I changed to NVidia settings but alas, it didn't solve the issue. grrrrrrrrr

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128517

I'll keep trying. There's an answer out there somewhere. I just have to find it.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

I would suggest that having spent a lot of money updating windows you would do well to upgrade to the dvd 'Wolves of the Pacific' which also comes with extras and will upgrade you from v1.4 to v1.5. It's a question of having the desire to "upgrade". At this time, I'm happy with the "vanilla" 1.4. Maybe in time, but not now.

The dvd is quite cheap these days from Amazon.

You will also benefit from a bigger variety of mods available. Have you looked at the downloads section lately? There's a heck of a lot of variety out there available. (at least for my level of play)

You should not install in the 'Program x86 Folder.'

it would be better to install simply in C:\SH4 and let the installation do the rest as it will also install a 'SH4 Folder' in your 'Documents Folder.'

Been there, done that. Doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. Still crashes. grrrrrrrrr