TO ALL MODERATORS SH3 and SH5

Cukier · 09-05-10, 06:54 AM

Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

THE_MASK · 09-05-10, 07:47 AM

I remember , thank you .

Subnuts · 09-05-10, 08:08 AM

After we remove the Battle Flag of the Confederacy from every Civil War game, the Rising Sun emblem from every Pacific Theater game, the Sickle and Hammer from every Cold War game, the Union Jack from every game that takes place during the height of the British Empire, the... well, you get the picture.

raymond6751 · 09-05-10, 08:09 AM

It is good to be reminded of what the Nazi symbols mean.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 09-05-10, 08:15 AM

When I first played SH I was a bit uneasy playing as part of the Nazi regime. But it was a game and I felt confident enough to know what that meant. I am as anti-nazi as you can get but I'm also a historial buff. That symbol reminds me of the dangers and crimes associated with it.

09-05-10, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cukier

Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

Not discussing and remembering what happend during those days will make us forget. And that is the real danger, not showing symbols. Symbols usually don't kill or torture people.

If you hide everything and put it under a cloak of shadows, all you get will be misinformation and a subculture praising what they assume has happened then. So your only chance is not to hide anything, but show it and inform about it.

So, don't blame the symbols, blame the people who did this and the ones who allowed this to happen.
I am not feeling as a nazi when i see a swastika, nor do i feel any moment in myself to go out and kill someone. Can't see why a symbol should rise such feelings.

Greetings from germany,
KarlKoch

Dowly · 09-05-10, 08:21 AM

About time we had one of these threads again.

mookiemookie · 09-05-10, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlKoch

Not discussing and remembering what happend during those days will make us forget. And that is the real danger, not showing symbols. Symbols usually don't kill or torture people.

If you hide everything and put it under a cloak of shadows, all you get will be misinformation and a subculture praising what they assume has happened then. So your only chance is not to hide anything, but show it and inform about it.

So, don't blame the symbols, blame the people who did this and the ones who allowed this to happen.
I am not feeling as a nazi when i see a swastika, nor do i feel any moment in myself to go out and kill someone. Can't see why a symbol should rise such feelings.

Greetings from germany,
KarlKoch

Kromus · 09-05-10, 08:36 AM

Actually, it`s an eastern religious symbol of prosperity, luck and happiness(buddhism, hinduism etc, you can see it on Buddha statues) which nazi only used for their propaganda/regime...

mauriga · 09-05-10, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cukier

Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

So we should ask to a director making a WWII movie to avoid to use the original german flags?

Pls, avoid us your rhetoric speech.
I really hate nazism and fascism (I'm italian).
I only want play a realistic WWII game.

mauriga

reaper7 · 09-05-10, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kromus

Actually, it`s an eastern religious symbol of prosperity, luck and happiness(buddhism, hinduism etc, you can see it on Buddha statues) which nazi only used for their propaganda/regime...

Exactly, that symbol goes a lot further back in history before there was even a Germany. Maybe we should remove bullets from games too, how many people do they kill.

Jimbuna · 09-05-10, 09:21 AM

There should be no problem or issue provided people adhere to the understanding/perception that they are playing a computer based game with a WWII U-boat theme.

SeaWolf U-57 · 09-05-10, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

There should be no problem or issue provided people adhere to the understanding/perception that they are playing a computer based game with a WWII U-boat theme.

And thats what it all boils down too Well said sir

tater · 09-05-10, 09:31 AM

Play SH4 with Fleet boats, or the RN campaign, then sink axis ships (with correct flags, ideally), then MG the survivors in the water.

Dowly · 09-05-10, 09:33 AM

My clock just turned to popcorn time.

09-05-10, 06:54 AM	#1
Cukier Watch Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 21 Downloads: 960 Uploads: 0	TO ALL MODERATORS SH3 and SH5 Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol. Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

09-05-10, 08:08 AM	#3
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	After we remove the Battle Flag of the Confederacy from every Civil War game, the Rising Sun emblem from every Pacific Theater game, the Sickle and Hammer from every Cold War game, the Union Jack from every game that takes place during the height of the British Empire, the... well, you get the picture. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

09-05-10, 08:09 AM	#4
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09-05-10, 08:15 AM	#5
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	When I first played SH I was a bit uneasy playing as part of the Nazi regime. But it was a game and I felt confident enough to know what that meant. I am as anti-nazi as you can get but I'm also a historial buff. That symbol reminds me of the dangers and crimes associated with it. __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

09-05-10, 09:21 AM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	There should be no problem or issue provided people adhere to the understanding/perception that they are playing a computer based game with a WWII U-boat theme. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-05-10, 07:47 AM	#2
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I remember , thank you .

09-05-10, 08:21 AM	#7
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	About time we had one of these threads again.

09-05-10, 08:36 AM	#9
Kromus Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 250 Downloads: 140 Uploads: 0	Actually, it`s an eastern religious symbol of prosperity, luck and happiness(buddhism, hinduism etc, you can see it on Buddha statues) which nazi only used for their propaganda/regime...

09-05-10, 09:31 AM	#14
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Play SH4 with Fleet boats, or the RN campaign, then sink axis ships (with correct flags, ideally), then MG the survivors in the water.

09-05-10, 09:33 AM	#15
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	My clock just turned to popcorn time.

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