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Cukier 09-05-10 06:54 AM

TO ALL MODERATORS SH3 and SH5
 
Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

:cry:

THE_MASK 09-05-10 07:47 AM

I remember , thank you .

Subnuts 09-05-10 08:08 AM

After we remove the Battle Flag of the Confederacy from every Civil War game, the Rising Sun emblem from every Pacific Theater game, the Sickle and Hammer from every Cold War game, the Union Jack from every game that takes place during the height of the British Empire, the... well, you get the picture.

raymond6751 09-05-10 08:09 AM

Thanks
 
It is good to be reminded of what the Nazi symbols mean.

DavyJonesFootlocker 09-05-10 08:15 AM

When I first played SH I was a bit uneasy playing as part of the Nazi regime. But it was a game and I felt confident enough to know what that meant. I am as anti-nazi as you can get but I'm also a historial buff. That symbol reminds me of the dangers and crimes associated with it.

KarlKoch 09-05-10 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cukier (Post 1485408)
Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

:cry:

Not discussing and remembering what happend during those days will make us forget. And that is the real danger, not showing symbols. Symbols usually don't kill or torture people.

If you hide everything and put it under a cloak of shadows, all you get will be misinformation and a subculture praising what they assume has happened then. So your only chance is not to hide anything, but show it and inform about it.

So, don't blame the symbols, blame the people who did this and the ones who allowed this to happen.
I am not feeling as a nazi when i see a swastika, nor do i feel any moment in myself to go out and kill someone. Can't see why a symbol should rise such feelings.

Greetings from germany,
KarlKoch

Dowly 09-05-10 08:21 AM

About time we had one of these threads again. :DL

mookiemookie 09-05-10 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlKoch (Post 1485440)
Not discussing and remembering what happend during those days will make us forget. And that is the real danger, not showing symbols. Symbols usually don't kill or torture people.

If you hide everything and put it under a cloak of shadows, all you get will be misinformation and a subculture praising what they assume has happened then. So your only chance is not to hide anything, but show it and inform about it.

So, don't blame the symbols, blame the people who did this and the ones who allowed this to happen.
I am not feeling as a nazi when i see a swastika, nor do i feel any moment in myself to go out and kill someone. Can't see why a symbol should rise such feelings.

Greetings from germany,
KarlKoch

:agree:

Kromus 09-05-10 08:36 AM

Actually, it`s an eastern religious symbol of prosperity, luck and happiness(buddhism, hinduism etc, you can see it on Buddha statues) which nazi only used for their propaganda/regime...

mauriga 09-05-10 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cukier (Post 1485408)
Please, no put sfasticas in the games. Its nazi symbol.

Remember: Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka...

:cry:

So we should ask to a director making a WWII movie to avoid to use the original german flags?

Pls, avoid us your rhetoric speech.
I really hate nazism and fascism (I'm italian).
I only want play a realistic WWII game.

mauriga

reaper7 09-05-10 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kromus (Post 1485457)
Actually, it`s an eastern religious symbol of prosperity, luck and happiness(buddhism, hinduism etc, you can see it on Buddha statues) which nazi only used for their propaganda/regime...


Exactly, that symbol goes a lot further back in history before there was even a Germany. Maybe we should remove bullets from games too, how many people do they kill.

Jimbuna 09-05-10 09:21 AM

There should be no problem or issue provided people adhere to the understanding/perception that they are playing a computer based game with a WWII U-boat theme.

SeaWolf U-57 09-05-10 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1485501)
There should be no problem or issue provided people adhere to the understanding/perception that they are playing a computer based game with a WWII U-boat theme.


And thats what it all boils down too Well said sir :salute:

tater 09-05-10 09:31 AM

Play SH4 with Fleet boats, or the RN campaign, then sink axis ships (with correct flags, ideally), then MG the survivors in the water.
:yeah:

Dowly 09-05-10 09:33 AM

My clock just turned to popcorn time.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...opcorn-cat.gif


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