Post-Scotland flag

[Jimbuna]

I found thid article quite interesting...What would the union jack look like if the Scottish bit were removed?

Scotland's referendum on independence is now just over 10 months away, but the question of what might happen to the union jack has been largely overlooked. An association of flag experts, or vexillologists, has created a set of designs it hopes will encourage a discussion.

Some 400 years ago when the crowns of England and Scotland were united, an argument raged about how the blue field and white saltire of St Andrew could be combined with the red cross of St George.

The Scots were eager that their flag should be laid on top of the English flag, but of course the English thought it should be the other way around. It took a Royal proclamation to determine that the English flag should take precedence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

[Aktungbby]

Really like the third choice down with the Scottish lion still in (clan Kincaid here) but with a Welch Dragon in the lower right instead of three lions; inasmuch as the heir apparent IS also Prince of Wales. Is it not PC in Britain to refer to the LEO transport to the constabulary as a 'PADDY' wagon' if a Welch detainee is involved?

[mapuc]

Maybe not the right place.

I know that there are fanatical Scottish people that have been asking/hopping for a independent Scotland

Will these people respect the result of a referendum, even if it' s a negativ result(stil being a part of the commonwealth or Union Jack)?

Markus

I'll post a suggestion.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Maybe not the right place.

I know that there are fanatical Scottish people that have been asking/hopping for a independent Scotland

Will these people respect the result of a referendum, even if it' s a negativ result(stil being a part of the commonwealth or Union Jack)?

Markus

The hardcore element of Scotland won't but it ids the first time the SNP have had a majority vote.

I say let them go but they must take their fair share of the national debt, sort out their own currency and their defence.

[Ducimus]

Ok, so I'm just a dumb yank who probably couldn't tell you the difference between "England" and "United Kingdom"; but ahh, is Scotland thinking about leaving the UK to form it's own independent country or something?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ok, so I'm just a dumb yank who probably couldn't tell you the difference between "England" and "United Kingdom"; but ahh, is Scotland thinking about leaving the UK to form it's own independent country or something?

I certainly don't consider you as some 'dumb yank' (and that's not a proposal to marriage) but yes...the SNP (Scottish National Party) are having their first taste of holding a majority in the Scottish Parliament so they now want independance.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The hardcore element of Scotland won't but it ids the first time the SNP have had a majority vote.

I say let them go but they must take their fair share of the national debt, sort out their own currency and their defence.

Your not getting rid of us that easily, Jim!

Pretty much everyone I know is voting NO due to the fact that the SNP can't find it's backside with a map on policy where independence is concerned.

To much wishful thinking in it's "White Paper" for most people's liking.

We want hard, solid facts, not rhetoric. And we aren't getting hard, solid facts in any way.....

Mind you, the YES campaign isn't doing a great job either. I think that's mainly due to Alistair Darling's patronising manner.

Mike.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by MGR1

Your not getting rid of us that easily, Jim!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by MGR1

Your not getting rid of us that easily, Jim!

Pretty much everyone I know is voting NO due to the fact that the SNP can't find it's backside with a map on policy where independence is concerned.

To much wishful thinking in it's "White Paper" for most people's liking.

We want hard, solid facts, not rhetoric. And we aren't getting hard, solid facts in any way.....

Mind you, the YES campaign isn't doing a great job either. I think that's mainly due to Alistair Darling's patronising manner.

Mike.

I fully agree but what is of concern in my way of thinking is the fact the SNP have achieved one goal already....allowing sixteen year olds and above to vote. They know full well they can convince a younger population who have been spoon fed the SNP diatribe since their ability to take notice of anything regarding current affairs.

Reverse the situation...spoon feed sixteen year old Brits an anti Scottish argument for three years or more then have a vote. The Union wouldn't have a chance of maintaining its current form.

I hope the vote for independance falls but should it not, Scotland or should I say mad Alex and his gang, have a reality check coming soon after regarding taxation, jobs, currency, defence, national debt and membership of NATO and the EU etc. etc.

[TarJak]

In reality as the article explains there is no need to change the union flag as Scotland will remain subject to the British monarch and it is the union of the crowns that gave rise to the flag in the first place. 300 years before parliamentary union.

Originally Posted by TarJak

In reality as the article explains there is no need to change the union flag

You gotta fancy flag. Why can't the Scot's?

(remember. I'm a U.S. citizen and I don't even know WTH is going on in my own country, let alone figure out your crazy rules)

[Tchocky]

Didn't change the flag in 1922 so there's historical precedent for leaving it alone.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I was thinking more like all in one bar, then all in the next, and so on.