U.S. Says Iran-Tied Terror Plot in Washington, D.C. Disrupted

vienna · 10-11-11, 01:52 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/u-says-iran-ti...145047487.html

Jimbuna · 10-11-11, 02:07 PM

Iran must be skating on the thinnest of ice if these allegations are true

JU_88 · 10-11-11, 02:12 PM

Brought to you by the same people who tried to tie Al queda to Saddams regime at one point, So I'd take it with a pinch of salt and wait for more info before assuming anything.

Oberon · 10-11-11, 02:20 PM

Hmmmm

That's all I'm going to say on this one. It's certainly going to raise the likelihood of armed conflict between the US and Iran a smidge, if nothing else, whether it's true or false.

Jimbuna · 10-11-11, 02:35 PM

Brings this old joke to mind

George W. Bush and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meet in Tehran for peace talks following recent hostilities. As they're sat down, Bush notices three buttons on the side of his chair.

He pushes the first one and a boot comes flying out of nowhere kicking him in the shins. The Iranian president falls about laughing.

He pushes the second button and a boxing glove comes flying through the air and hits him in the face. Again the Iranian president pisses himself laughing.

He pushes the third button tentatively and another boot comes flying out of nowhere and kicks him in the balls. Eyes watering, he falls to the floor while the Iranian president struggles for air as he's laughing so hard.

Bush staggers to his feet and announces that he's going to Washington - the Iranian president will be welcome to resume talks in three days.

Three days pass and the Iranian president arrives in Washington for the talks.

As he sits down in his seat he notices three buttons on the side. Eyeing them suspiciously, he presses the first one.

Nothing happens........ Bush starts giggling.

He winces as he pushes the second one. Again, nothing.... Bush starts laughing harder.

He grimaces as he pushes the third one. Once more, nothing happens..... Bush falls out of his seat laughing.

The Iranian president gets up in a huff and announces, "I'm going back to Iran."

Gasping for air, Bush replies, "what Iran?"

mapuc · 10-11-11, 02:38 PM

Why do I have this feeling, that USA is building up an opinion at home. It's seems that the government in USA, want a war with Iran.

Maybe it have to do with all this military build-up and movement i have red about and seen on youtube( I do not believe all of it)

Markus

Rockstar · 10-11-11, 02:50 PM

It may simply be an attempt to wag the dog. Making Eric Holder out to be a hero distracting attention away from the operation 'Fast and Furious' debacle.

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 02:51 PM

I love the USA...

Can I be skeptical without being put in the "tinfoil hat guy" category.

I need more solid proof, Iran is one of Russia and Chinas favorite new allies (anyone who hates the USA allies with folks like Iran and N korea just to tweak us) and could mean trouble.

I am so sick of war, I been to enough funerals, one of them closed casket.

If the proof is there then effing nuke them, no more men should die of religious zealout hatred. But overall it just needs to stop, leave us alone, we leave them alone

Geez I sound like a peace loving hippy...But isn't there a time where enough is enough?

Krauter · 10-11-11, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I love the USA...

Can I be skeptical without being put in the "tinfoil hat guy" category.

I need more solid proof, Iran is one of Russia and Chinas favorite new allies (anyone who hates the USA allies with folks like Iran and N korea just to tweak us) and could mean trouble.

I am so sick of war, I been to enough funerals, one of them closed casket.

If the proof is there then effing nuke them, no more men should die of religious zealout hatred. But overall it just needs to stop, leave us alone, we leave them alone

Geez I sound like a peace loving hippy...But isn't there a time where enough is enough?

Just a few points.. No you don't sound like a peace loving hippy. A peace loving hippy wouldn't say nuke them and get over it, he'd probably advocate peace...

Also, how does nuking someone on evidence of terrorism or hatred towards the US help anyone at all? Why not just have everyone launch and whoevers left can claim to be the winner.

/facepalm

JU_88 · 10-11-11, 03:30 PM

I seriously doubt Iran would do this, what is their motive? someone please explain, The Iranian govenment is not that stupid.
Im very VERY suspicious of this.
We dont need yet another war based on another lie. we cannot aford any more wars right now, and enough soldiers have died already.
They better have Rock solid proof to support this allegation.

AVGWarhawk · 10-11-11, 03:40 PM

Like JU88 said, this would spurn yet another war. We need that like a trap door in a canoe.

Skybird · 10-11-11, 03:45 PM

Good joke, Jim, I didn't know that one.

Onm the issue, let'S wait how it shapes up. The plot is several weeks ago, it seesm they really wanted to take the time to make this as fail-safe and tight a case as they could.

The motivation of Iran could be to disrupt ties between the US and Saudi Arabia - Iran's biggest rival for dominance in the region. Also hasn't Iran repeatedly threatened to wipe out Israel? You do not expect too much reasonability from a voice saying so, do you, JU_88...?! Even more so when they mean it?!

For the US, this is two-sided an affair. Military action woudkl mean more costs, and that in the current time of financial crisis, and maybe the third war within just ten years, if they go all the way. It could also be an opportunity or an argument to go after that Iranian nuclear weapon program, via air strikes, special ops and together with the Israelis. That program does not disappear all by itself, you know.

Whatever, sending agents to a foreign nation to assassinate people there and blowing up places, imo is nothing else but a declaration of war. I mean you cannot act any more hostile than killing people and blowing up places, and intentionally so.

Wwe now need to wait and see what evidence the US is showing up with. If it is a speculation like mobile bio-labs in Itran, or a Powellian phiola with "antrax" powder theatralically shown to the camera, then it is a fake. If it is something better founded - then it becomes complex for Obama, because he could not afford to ignore the incident then. The chance to win profile in a military campaign, improving election chances by that and giving Iran a bloody nose, versus a war-tired sentiment in the US, loosing election chances therefore, and a crisis of the American finance system.

vienna · 10-11-11, 03:47 PM

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The Iranian govenment is not that stupid.

No, maybe not the Iranian government, but Ahmadinejad is and more so; he's stupid and a fanatic. It is just possible such a plot would have been viewed as feasible with the opportunity to place the blame on Al Queda and, maybe drive a bit of a wedge between the U.S. and the Saudis. Not that I personally believe Ahmadinejad would have gotten away clean if the plot was carried out; but, we are dealing with irrational fanatics and the laws of reason do not necessarily apply.

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Just a few points.. No you don't sound like a peace loving hippy. A peace loving hippy wouldn't say nuke them and get over it, he'd probably advocate peace...

Also, how does nuking someone on evidence of terrorism or hatred towards the US help anyone at all? Why not just have everyone launch and whoevers left can claim to be the winner.

/facepalm

Yeah facepalm. You guys up north have always been more tolerant of abuse than us. It don't effect you. Whens the last time someone wanted a Canadian dead...Never. Your a jerk if you want to kill a Canuck!

Every few months Iran finds a new way to tweak us, while Russia and China laugh on, knowing they can block anything we try to do in the UN.

My hippy comment came from my (and our as a nations) general war wearyness.

My nuke them comment came from my intolerance to being taunted by a weakling who has nothing but 2 bulldogs and barely a capibility to hit its near neighbor (Israel) with nukes, much less across an ocean.

Go on mock me.

Skybird · 10-11-11, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

No, maybe not the Iranian government, but Ahmadinejad is and more so;

I am not certain that it is Ahmadinejadh. He is at odds with the clerics, and in recent years the Revolutionary Guards have gained in additional power and influence, strengthening their sovereignity and authority both in the military and the civilian sector. Parts of the civilian economy and key industries are controlled by them, they are a state within the state. I would assume any source for major drives to strike at Israel or the West to be located in their ranks more than anywhere else in Iran. Ahmadinejadh maybe is just a noisy clown (that is why the clerics do not like him, he attracts too much attention to things that Iran originally wanted to kept in the hidden).

10-11-11, 01:52 PM	#1
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,714 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	U.S. Says Iran-Tied Terror Plot in Washington, D.C. Disrupted http://news.yahoo.com/u-says-iran-ti...145047487.html

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Iran must be skating on the thinnest of ice if these allegations are true __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-11-11, 02:35 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Brings this old joke to mind George W. Bush and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meet in Tehran for peace talks following recent hostilities. As they're sat down, Bush notices three buttons on the side of his chair. He pushes the first one and a boot comes flying out of nowhere kicking him in the shins. The Iranian president falls about laughing. He pushes the second button and a boxing glove comes flying through the air and hits him in the face. Again the Iranian president pisses himself laughing. He pushes the third button tentatively and another boot comes flying out of nowhere and kicks him in the balls. Eyes watering, he falls to the floor while the Iranian president struggles for air as he's laughing so hard. Bush staggers to his feet and announces that he's going to Washington - the Iranian president will be welcome to resume talks in three days. Three days pass and the Iranian president arrives in Washington for the talks. As he sits down in his seat he notices three buttons on the side. Eyeing them suspiciously, he presses the first one. Nothing happens........ Bush starts giggling. He winces as he pushes the second one. Again, nothing.... Bush starts laughing harder. He grimaces as he pushes the third one. Once more, nothing happens..... Bush falls out of his seat laughing. The Iranian president gets up in a huff and announces, "I'm going back to Iran." Gasping for air, Bush replies, "what Iran?" __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-11-11, 02:38 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Why do I have this feeling, that USA is building up an opinion at home. It's seems that the government in USA, want a war with Iran. Maybe it have to do with all this military build-up and movement i have red about and seen on youtube( I do not believe all of it) Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

10-11-11, 02:50 PM	#7
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It may simply be an attempt to wag the dog. Making Eric Holder out to be a hero distracting attention away from the operation 'Fast and Furious' debacle. Last edited by Rockstar; 10-11-11 at 09:08 PM.

10-11-11, 02:12 PM	#3
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Brought to you by the same people who tried to tie Al queda to Saddams regime at one point, So I'd take it with a pinch of salt and wait for more info before assuming anything.

10-11-11, 02:20 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Hmmmm That's all I'm going to say on this one. It's certainly going to raise the likelihood of armed conflict between the US and Iran a smidge, if nothing else, whether it's true or false.

10-11-11, 02:51 PM	#8
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I love the USA... Can I be skeptical without being put in the "tinfoil hat guy" category. I need more solid proof, Iran is one of Russia and Chinas favorite new allies (anyone who hates the USA allies with folks like Iran and N korea just to tweak us) and could mean trouble. I am so sick of war, I been to enough funerals, one of them closed casket. If the proof is there then effing nuke them, no more men should die of religious zealout hatred. But overall it just needs to stop, leave us alone, we leave them alone Geez I sound like a peace loving hippy...But isn't there a time where enough is enough? __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-11-11, 03:30 PM	#10
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I seriously doubt Iran would do this, what is their motive? someone please explain, The Iranian govenment is not that stupid. Im very VERY suspicious of this. We dont need yet another war based on another lie. we cannot aford any more wars right now, and enough soldiers have died already. They better have Rock solid proof to support this allegation.

10-11-11, 03:40 PM	#11
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,266 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Like JU88 said, this would spurn yet another war. We need that like a trap door in a canoe. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-11-11, 03:45 PM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,645 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Good joke, Jim, I didn't know that one. Onm the issue, let'S wait how it shapes up. The plot is several weeks ago, it seesm they really wanted to take the time to make this as fail-safe and tight a case as they could. The motivation of Iran could be to disrupt ties between the US and Saudi Arabia - Iran's biggest rival for dominance in the region. Also hasn't Iran repeatedly threatened to wipe out Israel? You do not expect too much reasonability from a voice saying so, do you, JU_88...?! Even more so when they mean it?! For the US, this is two-sided an affair. Military action woudkl mean more costs, and that in the current time of financial crisis, and maybe the third war within just ten years, if they go all the way. It could also be an opportunity or an argument to go after that Iranian nuclear weapon program, via air strikes, special ops and together with the Israelis. That program does not disappear all by itself, you know. Whatever, sending agents to a foreign nation to assassinate people there and blowing up places, imo is nothing else but a declaration of war. I mean you cannot act any more hostile than killing people and blowing up places, and intentionally so. Wwe now need to wait and see what evidence the US is showing up with. If it is a speculation like mobile bio-labs in Itran, or a Powellian phiola with "antrax" powder theatralically shown to the camera, then it is a fake. If it is something better founded - then it becomes complex for Obama, because he could not afford to ignore the incident then. The chance to win profile in a military campaign, improving election chances by that and giving Iran a bloody nose, versus a war-tired sentiment in the US, loosing election chances therefore, and a crisis of the American finance system. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.