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vienna 10-11-11 01:52 PM

U.S. Says Iran-Tied Terror Plot in Washington, D.C. Disrupted
 
http://news.yahoo.com/u-says-iran-ti...145047487.html

Jimbuna 10-11-11 02:07 PM

Iran must be skating on the thinnest of ice if these allegations are true :hmmm:

JU_88 10-11-11 02:12 PM

Brought to you by the same people who tried to tie Al queda to Saddams regime at one point, So I'd take it with a pinch of salt and wait for more info before assuming anything. :)

Oberon 10-11-11 02:20 PM

Hmmmm :hmmm: That's all I'm going to say on this one. It's certainly going to raise the likelihood of armed conflict between the US and Iran a smidge, if nothing else, whether it's true or false.

Jimbuna 10-11-11 02:35 PM

Brings this old joke to mind :03:

George W. Bush and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meet in Tehran for peace talks following recent hostilities. As they're sat down, Bush notices three buttons on the side of his chair.

He pushes the first one and a boot comes flying out of nowhere kicking him in the shins. The Iranian president falls about laughing.

He pushes the second button and a boxing glove comes flying through the air and hits him in the face. Again the Iranian president pisses himself laughing.

He pushes the third button tentatively and another boot comes flying out of nowhere and kicks him in the balls. Eyes watering, he falls to the floor while the Iranian president struggles for air as he's laughing so hard.

Bush staggers to his feet and announces that he's going to Washington - the Iranian president will be welcome to resume talks in three days.

Three days pass and the Iranian president arrives in Washington for the talks.

As he sits down in his seat he notices three buttons on the side. Eyeing them suspiciously, he presses the first one.

Nothing happens........ Bush starts giggling.

He winces as he pushes the second one. Again, nothing.... Bush starts laughing harder.

He grimaces as he pushes the third one. Once more, nothing happens..... Bush falls out of his seat laughing.

The Iranian president gets up in a huff and announces, "I'm going back to Iran."

Gasping for air, Bush replies, "what Iran?"

mapuc 10-11-11 02:38 PM

Why do I have this feeling, that USA is building up an opinion at home. It's seems that the government in USA, want a war with Iran.

Maybe it have to do with all this military build-up and movement i have red about and seen on youtube( I do not believe all of it)

Markus

Rockstar 10-11-11 02:50 PM

It may simply be an attempt to wag the dog. Making Eric Holder out to be a hero distracting attention away from the operation 'Fast and Furious' debacle.

soopaman2 10-11-11 02:51 PM

I love the USA...

Can I be skeptical without being put in the "tinfoil hat guy" category.

I need more solid proof, Iran is one of Russia and Chinas favorite new allies (anyone who hates the USA allies with folks like Iran and N korea just to tweak us) and could mean trouble.

I am so sick of war, I been to enough funerals, one of them closed casket.

If the proof is there then effing nuke them, no more men should die of religious zealout hatred. But overall it just needs to stop, leave us alone, we leave them alone

Geez I sound like a peace loving hippy...But isn't there a time where enough is enough?

Krauter 10-11-11 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1765444)
I love the USA...

Can I be skeptical without being put in the "tinfoil hat guy" category.

I need more solid proof, Iran is one of Russia and Chinas favorite new allies (anyone who hates the USA allies with folks like Iran and N korea just to tweak us) and could mean trouble.

I am so sick of war, I been to enough funerals, one of them closed casket.

If the proof is there then effing nuke them, no more men should die of religious zealout hatred. But overall it just needs to stop, leave us alone, we leave them alone

Geez I sound like a peace loving hippy...But isn't there a time where enough is enough?

Just a few points.. No you don't sound like a peace loving hippy. A peace loving hippy wouldn't say nuke them and get over it, he'd probably advocate peace...

Also, how does nuking someone on evidence of terrorism or hatred towards the US help anyone at all? Why not just have everyone launch and whoevers left can claim to be the winner.

/facepalm

JU_88 10-11-11 03:30 PM

I seriously doubt Iran would do this, what is their motive? someone please explain, The Iranian govenment is not that stupid.
Im very VERY suspicious of this.
We dont need yet another war based on another lie. we cannot aford any more wars right now, and enough soldiers have died already.
They better have Rock solid proof to support this allegation.

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 03:40 PM

Like JU88 said, this would spurn yet another war. We need that like a trap door in a canoe.

Skybird 10-11-11 03:45 PM

Good joke, Jim, I didn't know that one. :DL

Onm the issue, let'S wait how it shapes up. The plot is several weeks ago, it seesm they really wanted to take the time to make this as fail-safe and tight a case as they could.

The motivation of Iran could be to disrupt ties between the US and Saudi Arabia - Iran's biggest rival for dominance in the region. Also hasn't Iran repeatedly threatened to wipe out Israel? You do not expect too much reasonability from a voice saying so, do you, JU_88...?! Even more so when they mean it?!

For the US, this is two-sided an affair. Military action woudkl mean more costs, and that in the current time of financial crisis, and maybe the third war within just ten years, if they go all the way. It could also be an opportunity or an argument to go after that Iranian nuclear weapon program, via air strikes, special ops and together with the Israelis. That program does not disappear all by itself, you know.

Whatever, sending agents to a foreign nation to assassinate people there and blowing up places, imo is nothing else but a declaration of war. I mean you cannot act any more hostile than killing people and blowing up places, and intentionally so.

Wwe now need to wait and see what evidence the US is showing up with. If it is a speculation like mobile bio-labs in Itran, or a Powellian phiola with "antrax" powder theatralically shown to the camera, then it is a fake. If it is something better founded - then it becomes complex for Obama, because he could not afford to ignore the incident then. The chance to win profile in a military campaign, improving election chances by that and giving Iran a bloody nose, versus a war-tired sentiment in the US, loosing election chances therefore, and a crisis of the American finance system.

vienna 10-11-11 03:47 PM

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The Iranian govenment is not that stupid.
No, maybe not the Iranian government, but Ahmadinejad is and more so; he's stupid and a fanatic. It is just possible such a plot would have been viewed as feasible with the opportunity to place the blame on Al Queda and, maybe drive a bit of a wedge between the U.S. and the Saudis. Not that I personally believe Ahmadinejad would have gotten away clean if the plot was carried out; but, we are dealing with irrational fanatics and the laws of reason do not necessarily apply.

soopaman2 10-11-11 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter (Post 1765464)
Just a few points.. No you don't sound like a peace loving hippy. A peace loving hippy wouldn't say nuke them and get over it, he'd probably advocate peace...

Also, how does nuking someone on evidence of terrorism or hatred towards the US help anyone at all? Why not just have everyone launch and whoevers left can claim to be the winner.

/facepalm

Yeah facepalm. You guys up north have always been more tolerant of abuse than us. It don't effect you. Whens the last time someone wanted a Canadian dead...Never. Your a jerk if you want to kill a Canuck!:D

Every few months Iran finds a new way to tweak us, while Russia and China laugh on, knowing they can block anything we try to do in the UN.

My hippy comment came from my (and our as a nations) general war wearyness.

My nuke them comment came from my intolerance to being taunted by a weakling who has nothing but 2 bulldogs and barely a capibility to hit its near neighbor (Israel) with nukes, much less across an ocean.

Go on mock me.

Skybird 10-11-11 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1765472)
No, maybe not the Iranian government, but Ahmadinejad is and more so;

I am not certain that it is Ahmadinejadh. He is at odds with the clerics, and in recent years the Revolutionary Guards have gained in additional power and influence, strengthening their sovereignity and authority both in the military and the civilian sector. Parts of the civilian economy and key industries are controlled by them, they are a state within the state. I would assume any source for major drives to strike at Israel or the West to be located in their ranks more than anywhere else in Iran. Ahmadinejadh maybe is just a noisy clown (that is why the clerics do not like him, he attracts too much attention to things that Iran originally wanted to kept in the hidden).


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