That's it. Never another Passenger/Cargo

desirableroasted · 11-04-10, 09:00 AM

Is the Passenger/Cargo a sort of a programmer's joke?

For five years, I have torped them in the bow, under the stack, in the stern. I have ripped out keels. I have personally given them 20 below the waterline deck-gun shots.

Yeah, they will sink, someday. Once I had one sink just after Willy Brandt became Chancellor.

Seriously, is there a sweet spot for them? Or is every last one of them transporting balsa wood and ping-pong balls?

I play "take what you get", so I feel duty bound to sink them. But I am about to make an exception.

krashkart · 11-04-10, 09:05 AM

Maybe the ones you hit are loaded with inflated Mae Wests?

Seriously, I have no idea what the deal might be with those.

Yoriyn · 11-04-10, 09:09 AM

It's becouse on that ship is to many passengers, so you have no chance to sink that ship. Simply calculation to sink any shipis:
Number of people on the ship X number of buckets, glasses, barrels or anything what can bu use to pure the water outside the ship X tonnage = chances the ship survive the attack.

As you see better stick with fishing boats

Gerald · 11-04-10, 09:19 AM

Some, of them here Passenger / Cargo, sometimes need more eels..

K-61 · 11-04-10, 09:38 AM

I aim for about 1/3 of the way from the bow and that seems to put them under with one shot. But yeah, I hate them, too. I've put as many as three torpedoes into one of them before she'd go down. I much prefer to use the gun on them if the weather is not too rough.

Brag · 11-04-10, 09:43 AM

These torpedo guzzlers are full of hot air generated by Subsimers. Best to just let them go.

HW3 · 11-04-10, 12:51 PM

Bow shot under the forward mast at 2.5M and they will go down due to flooding within the hour.

Jimbuna · 11-04-10, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

Is the Passenger/Cargo a sort of a programmer's joke?

For five years, I have torped them in the bow, under the stack, in the stern. I have ripped out keels. I have personally given them 20 below the waterline deck-gun shots.

Yeah, they will sink, someday. Once I had one sink just after Willy Brandt became Chancellor.

Seriously, is there a sweet spot for them? Or is every last one of them transporting balsa wood and ping-pong balls?

I play "take what you get", so I feel duty bound to sink them. But I am about to make an exception.

Some of them also carry a hold full of lifejackets on occasion

In all seriousness though, at 90 renown I sometimes wonder if they're worth the effort.

Here is a shipchart link showing the 'sweet spots'...I'm not sure if it is on here but it's worth a look:

http://www.filefront.com/13792872/shipchart.pdf

desirableroasted · 11-04-10, 02:07 PM

I will try HW3 and K-61's advice, then. 1/3 back/under the foremast.

The next time that is..... this one already got one torpedo and he is not going to get another one. I will follow him to Tahiti, first. It violates my theology and geometry to use more than one torpedo on anything bigger than 7000 tons.

Edit: Thanks @jimbuna. Our messages crossed. That chart, even though it is for stock, should be enormously useful for new captains; I remember having it at some point. Thank you!

raymond6751 · 11-04-10, 03:45 PM

One would think a hit at the stern would blow off or damage the props and/or rudder. That would at least halt the ship.

If nobody is around, deck gun at the waterline? Pick a second shot at the best guess and leave her to wallow.

Gerald · 11-04-10, 03:53 PM

Deck gun at the water line, is a good option if weather permits, and you do not have other unwanted guests,

desirableroasted · 11-04-10, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Deck gun at the water line, is a good option if weather permits, and you do not have other unwanted guests,

Vendor, if weather permitted, I wouldn't be wasting a torpedo on an 3K tonner. Not in 1940, anyway.

Anyway, you try putting 20 under the waterline of a Passenger/Cargo. She'll sail off at 7 knots, bobbing along like a rubber ducky.

Gerald · 11-04-10, 04:09 PM

True! If you are unlucky it may be so, otherwise leave her and move on

Gargamel · 11-04-10, 04:59 PM

Just snuck up on one, fired one 110mm round at it, thing immediately split in half. Got credit for it, but i then spent 3 hours waiting for the 2 halves to sink. Never did, so I got bored and left.

/ducks.

Arael · 11-04-10, 06:31 PM

I've found that putting a torpedo directly under that little box flanked by lifeboats directly aft of the smokestack kills passenger/cargos pretty easily.

11-04-10, 09:00 AM	#1
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	That's it. Never another Passenger/Cargo Is the Passenger/Cargo a sort of a programmer's joke? For five years, I have torped them in the bow, under the stack, in the stern. I have ripped out keels. I have personally given them 20 below the waterline deck-gun shots. Yeah, they will sink, someday. Once I had one sink just after Willy Brandt became Chancellor. Seriously, is there a sweet spot for them? Or is every last one of them transporting balsa wood and ping-pong balls? I play "take what you get", so I feel duty bound to sink them. But I am about to make an exception. __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

11-04-10, 09:19 AM	#4
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Some, of them here Passenger / Cargo, sometimes need more eels.. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-04-10, 09:38 AM	#5
K-61 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 795 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I aim for about 1/3 of the way from the bow and that seems to put them under with one shot. But yeah, I hate them, too. I've put as many as three torpedoes into one of them before she'd go down. I much prefer to use the gun on them if the weather is not too rough. __________________

11-04-10, 09:43 AM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	These torpedo guzzlers are full of hot air generated by Subsimers. Best to just let them go. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

11-04-10, 12:51 PM	#7
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Bow shot under the forward mast at 2.5M and they will go down due to flooding within the hour. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

11-04-10, 09:05 AM	#2
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Maybe the ones you hit are loaded with inflated Mae Wests? Seriously, I have no idea what the deal might be with those.

11-04-10, 09:09 AM	#3
Yoriyn Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Control room Posts: 181 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	It's becouse on that ship is to many passengers, so you have no chance to sink that ship. Simply calculation to sink any shipis: Number of people on the ship X number of buckets, glasses, barrels or anything what can bu use to pure the water outside the ship X tonnage = chances the ship survive the attack. As you see better stick with fishing boats

11-04-10, 02:07 PM	#9
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I will try HW3 and K-61's advice, then. 1/3 back/under the foremast. The next time that is..... this one already got one torpedo and he is not going to get another one. I will follow him to Tahiti, first. It violates my theology and geometry to use more than one torpedo on anything bigger than 7000 tons. Edit: Thanks @jimbuna. Our messages crossed. That chart, even though it is for stock, should be enormously useful for new captains; I remember having it at some point. Thank you! __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

11-04-10, 03:45 PM	#10
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Props? One would think a hit at the stern would blow off or damage the props and/or rudder. That would at least halt the ship. If nobody is around, deck gun at the waterline? Pick a second shot at the best guess and leave her to wallow. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

11-04-10, 03:53 PM	#11
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Deck gun at the water line, is a good option if weather permits, and you do not have other unwanted guests, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-04-10, 04:09 PM	#13
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	True! If you are unlucky it may be so, otherwise leave her and move on __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-04-10, 04:59 PM	#14
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Just snuck up on one, fired one 110mm round at it, thing immediately split in half. Got credit for it, but i then spent 3 hours waiting for the 2 halves to sink. Never did, so I got bored and left. /ducks. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

11-04-10, 06:31 PM	#15
Arael Planesman Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Mitten Posts: 184 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I've found that putting a torpedo directly under that little box flanked by lifeboats directly aft of the smokestack kills passenger/cargos pretty easily.