Seriously, would you dare...

Méo · 01-31-10, 05:49 PM

Seriously, would you dare to speak about DRM (and how much it's a drama for you) in plublic, I mean... with your girlfriend, your friends, your teammate at work, your family, etc.

No offence to the one who posted that, but when I saw a thread that somewhat linked a personal news with ''these dark times'' it made think...

Seems to me that a lot of people here take all this too seriously.

...at my work, just before the new year's eve, someone committed suicide (his wife left him a month ago, but he wasn't a friend of mine).

So if I told guys at work that I'm currently having ''dark times'' and explaining them the DRM thing, THEY WOULD LAUGH AT ME BIG TIME (...and No, they aren't currently laughing at me).

Anyway, the question remains, would you dare to speak (not to write here) about DRM drama in public?

IanC · 01-31-10, 05:54 PM

Meh, it is what it is. A pain in the butt. I would only talk about it if a bud was also a gamer.

Nisgeis · 01-31-10, 05:55 PM

Er... DARE? What?! How is speaking in public different to writing in public? Would I talk to a friend at work about how Ubisoft are treating their paying customer like criminals, yes, but only with someone else who was also interested in gaming. Everyone else would be bored to tears.

Brag · 01-31-10, 05:56 PM

I would, the subject would not be games, but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.

IanC · 01-31-10, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

I would, the subject would not be games, but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.

Rosencrantz · 01-31-10, 05:58 PM

Well, to be honest, I have already told my girl that this forum just did go mad couple days ago. And as I have dealt with corpses almost every day last 17 years, I'm pretty sure she found out news from the forum both funny and more entertaining than if I just told her something else about my day...

And this wasn't a joke. Death losts its drama after it becomes to your everyday life.

-RC-

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 05:58 PM

No problem with that. I am surrounded by Gamers, from 20 to 65 all the time. We are discussing Games often, but i am an outsider - the others prefer MMORPG,s FPS or Role playing. I am for s litle strategy and Sims.
The DRM issues are to us not only about games, it is to us about control and dependancy. The future of mankind and such.

Nisgeis · 01-31-10, 06:01 PM

What the hell is this? You do know that the games industry is larger than the film and music industry combined don't you? It's not like gamers are weirdos who live in their mum's basement. What's with all the embarrasment about playing and discussing games?

DaveU186 · 01-31-10, 06:02 PM

Who dares wins.

ME$$ENGER · 01-31-10, 06:03 PM

Well, that's like saying talking about Windows activation in public is somehow embarrasing. It's not and people do that all the time. The point right now is not that silent hunter 5 is a game in a niche genre we happen to like. The point is it's a software bundled with something intrusive and unnecessary for the customers and we as the end users do not like it.

Steeltrap · 01-31-10, 06:04 PM

I went to a friend's place on Saturday night. He, his flatmate and I went to school together, so we've known each other 30 years.

Another friend came over, too.

One of them is a very skilled tech/programmer. We spoke about DRM, and Ubi's intended version for SH5.

I also showed them the "Das DRM" clips on YouTube (which they thought were hilarious).

Now the 4 of us would represent at least 120 years of accumulated boardgame, computer game and RPG experience. We all have Steam installed on our PCs/Laptops, so we're not against online authentication in itself.

We all think Ubi's DRM, without an off-line facility, is assinine for a single player game.

Maybe that's not exactly public, but I'm certainly happy to discuss it when the conversation suits. I have, for example, discussed it with some work colleagues; those who are technically minded and often gamers (both PC and console).

Their views? Ubisoft has lost the plot.

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

01-31-10, 06:10 PM

I would talk about it to a fellow gamer/hobby follower, and have

I only talk about my hobby (simming and RC helicopters/planes) to other simmers and RC flyers.....

why the hell would I bother people that have NO interest in my hobby? thats whay we all talk about it on here...yes?

Simon

Nisgeis · 01-31-10, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

Oh come on, that's happened before where other companies have transferred data that they had no right to. Don't be so naive as to think that just because they shouldn't, they won't, or because it's not legal they won't. Just because they shouldn't doesn't mean they can't. Also, how about answering some of the previously posed questions in the thread, or are you going to cherry pick your responses in a Ubi-esque manner in this thread?

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Maybe that's not exactly public, but I'm certainly happy to discuss it when the conversation suits. I have, for example, discussed it with some work colleagues; those who are technically minded and often gamers (both PC and console).

Their views? Ubisoft has lost the plot.

Yeah it's because your colleagues are technically minded.

What I meant is that there is a lot of people got more important problems (family problems, love problems, money problems, alcohol problems and so on...) and they would find it ludicrious that I worry so much for this DRM thing... you know!

01-31-10, 05:49 PM	#1
Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Seriously, would you dare... Seriously, would you dare to speak about DRM (and how much it's a drama for you) in plublic, I mean... with your girlfriend, your friends, your teammate at work, your family, etc. No offence to the one who posted that, but when I saw a thread that somewhat linked a personal news with ''these dark times'' it made think... Seems to me that a lot of people here take all this too seriously. ...at my work, just before the new year's eve, someone committed suicide (his wife left him a month ago, but he wasn't a friend of mine). So if I told guys at work that I'm currently having ''dark times'' and explaining them the DRM thing, THEY WOULD LAUGH AT ME BIG TIME (...and No, they aren't currently laughing at me). Anyway, the question remains, would you dare to speak (not to write here) about DRM drama in public?

01-31-10, 05:55 PM	#3
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Er... DARE? What?! How is speaking in public different to writing in public? Would I talk to a friend at work about how Ubisoft are treating their paying customer like criminals, yes, but only with someone else who was also interested in gaming. Everyone else would be bored to tears. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

01-31-10, 05:56 PM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I would, the subject would not be games, but the intrusion of big business into your personal life. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-31-10, 05:58 PM	#7
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	No problem with that. I am surrounded by Gamers, from 20 to 65 all the time. We are discussing Games often, but i am an outsider - the others prefer MMORPG,s FPS or Role playing. I am for s litle strategy and Sims. The DRM issues are to us not only about games, it is to us about control and dependancy. The future of mankind and such. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 06:01 PM	#8
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	What the hell is this? You do know that the games industry is larger than the film and music industry combined don't you? It's not like gamers are weirdos who live in their mum's basement. What's with all the embarrasment about playing and discussing games? __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

01-31-10, 05:54 PM	#2
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Meh, it is what it is. A pain in the butt. I would only talk about it if a bud was also a gamer.

01-31-10, 05:58 PM	#6
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Well, to be honest, I have already told my girl that this forum just did go mad couple days ago. And as I have dealt with corpses almost every day last 17 years, I'm pretty sure she found out news from the forum both funny and more entertaining than if I just told her something else about my day... And this wasn't a joke. Death losts its drama after it becomes to your everyday life. -RC-

01-31-10, 06:02 PM	#9
DaveU186 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Who dares wins.

01-31-10, 06:03 PM	#10
ME$$ENGER Watch Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, that's like saying talking about Windows activation in public is somehow embarrasing. It's not and people do that all the time. The point right now is not that silent hunter 5 is a game in a niche genre we happen to like. The point is it's a software bundled with something intrusive and unnecessary for the customers and we as the end users do not like it.

01-31-10, 06:04 PM	#11
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I went to a friend's place on Saturday night. He, his flatmate and I went to school together, so we've known each other 30 years. Another friend came over, too. One of them is a very skilled tech/programmer. We spoke about DRM, and Ubi's intended version for SH5. I also showed them the "Das DRM" clips on YouTube (which they thought were hilarious). Now the 4 of us would represent at least 120 years of accumulated boardgame, computer game and RPG experience. We all have Steam installed on our PCs/Laptops, so we're not against online authentication in itself. We all think Ubi's DRM, without an off-line facility, is assinine for a single player game. Maybe that's not exactly public, but I'm certainly happy to discuss it when the conversation suits. I have, for example, discussed it with some work colleagues; those who are technically minded and often gamers (both PC and console). Their views? Ubisoft has lost the plot.

01-31-10, 06:10 PM	#13
shmall Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I would talk about it to a fellow gamer/hobby follower, and have I only talk about my hobby (simming and RC helicopters/planes) to other simmers and RC flyers..... why the hell would I bother people that have NO interest in my hobby? thats whay we all talk about it on here...yes? Simon