Range to target with Hydro??

sirbum69 · 03-31-11, 04:33 PM

How would i go about getting the range to target using the Hydro...Reason im asking is because i want to try and play on realistic settings, so that another words i have no contact info on my map. Im tired of seeing the dam ship....

So when he tells me that its on bearing 300 long ways, i know how to stretch a line out on bearing 300 but i never know how far. Because he never gives a range.

Now i know if i look through the scope, then i can ask my watch officer to give me range but i would like to do it without coming up until i have too.

So, How do you all do it, until you just have to come up and when do you know to come up, if they dont give range...

Main reason im wanting to know this is because latly soon as i go down in water a line shows up, but my sonar cant find it...Then if i go up to surface a ship shows up on my map, but i cant see or lock onto it with the UZO lol....so how can it show on map if i cant even lock onto it...

I just want to start playing more realistic, just not sure how to do it...ive watched some of stonaims videos, great videos, just hes always looking through scope..

stoianm · 03-31-11, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sirbum69

I just want to start playing more realistic, just not sure how to do it...ive watched some of stonaims videos, great videos, just hes always looking through scope..

are you sure about that?

8) How to use hydrophone in SH5 ==> Link

soon will be online the ,,4 bearing methode''

sirbum69 · 03-31-11, 04:39 PM

I was just gonna edit my post Ston...I just found that video and am watching it now....Soon as i heard you say you were gonna get range with the new patch i new i had just posted a stupid post....

LOL off to watch it now, great tuts tho....

stoianm · 03-31-11, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sirbum69

I was just gonna edit my post Ston...I just found that video and am watching it now....Soon as i heard you say you were gonna get range with the new patch i new i had just posted a stupid post....

LOL off to watch it now, great tuts tho....

the methode from there is not realistic or imersive 100%... the ,,4 bearing methode'' is the most realistic and immersive one... i will make a tutorial for this soon

sirbum69 · 03-31-11, 04:57 PM

sounds great...

and omg LOL....was the phone a pizza LOL...

stoianm · 03-31-11, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sirbum69

sounds great...

and omg LOL....was the phone a pizza LOL...

i just finish the tutorial... will take few hours to encode and upload on youtube... this is my favorite one (was my girl friend who told me to leave the computer or if not she will leave me

)

sirbum69 · 03-31-11, 07:55 PM

LOL ahh so you had to scuttle the U-boat, oh well it happens

jwilliams · 03-31-11, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stoianm

/snip/ (was my girl friend who told me to leave the computer or if not she will leave me

)

So who left (girlfriend or computer)????

on topic,
I dont think German uboats used pings to get range to target.

I use the four bearing method, or stadimeter if target is in visual range.

link ---> New and improved four bearing method

Edit - After watching your vid, I see you used estimated range from sonar guy in your vid. How accurate is his estimate???
Guess this is possible if its not to accurate, as with experiance he could guess the range by how loud the sound was.

sirbum69 · 03-31-11, 09:36 PM

actully its very accurate for getting the range, so yeh realizm wise its not too true, but least now i can play with out map contacts and actully get something with out ever poping scope up....

But Ston what i didnt know and found out after trying this numorus times is that in order to get an accurate reading range wise you have to move the hydrophone to where he says the bearing is before you ask for range.

in your tutorial you never said that tho i saw you stayed there alot, i just didnt know you had to manually do it. i figured once you had him track the target he would track it....kept getting targets course way off, i had him going away more or less, was funny though i would still hit him but way sooner then i figured...

Thats how i realized, i turned map contacts back on and tried it again to see where i was going wrong. great tutorial tho. tought me alot about plotting and how you can hit ships with out firing on 0 degree fast 90...though i do that alot

Zedi · 04-01-11, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams

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Edit - After watching your vid, I see you used estimated range from sonar guy in your vid. How accurate is his estimate???
Guess this is possible if its not to accurate, as with experiance he could guess the range by how loud the sound was.

Sadly.. very accurate. Using his estimation is a cheat as his "estimation" is more precise than the stadimeter reading. He should say something like.. contact is between 5-10km away, never 6237m away.

So yeah, 4BM is the best option on tracking new targets, or.. just listen yourself and make your own estimation then head to the contact until you get into the visual range. But only in good weather conditions, otherwise 4BM is the one to go. Especially after 41 when the escorts start using radars too.

stoianm · 04-01-11, 12:57 AM

- yes you have right... this methode and the one with Auto tdc is not for the pro players... just watch the new tutorial ... will be online in few minutes

stoianm · 04-01-11, 05:28 AM

22) How to use the 4 bearing method in SH5 (Kuikueg method - i recomand for all SH5 players that do not know this method to find time to watch this video tutorial) ==> Link

sirbum69 · 04-01-11, 09:37 AM

I just watched your newest video on the 4 bearing, very good video...i think it will take me some time to get all the steps down but it will make playing in fog very nice lol...

Question for you tho, actully two questions...

1. how do i know when i have to subtract the bearing from 360. Is it when ever the bearing is more then 180?

2. you always say in your video that you hit the "Zeth" key to have your hydro guy give you bearing...what is the Zeth key...i assume its the "Z" key but in english i dont know what key it is...

Zedi · 04-01-11, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sirbum69

I just watched your newest video on the 4 bearing, very good video...i think it will take me some time to get all the steps down but it will make playing in fog very nice lol...

Question for you tho, actully two questions...

1. how do i know when i have to subtract the bearing from 360. Is it when ever the bearing is more then 180?

2. you always say in your video that you hit the "Zeth" key to have your hydro guy give you bearing...what is the Zeth key...i assume its the "Z" key but in english i dont know what key it is...

Download the pdf from here, you will find all ur questions answered in there.

Ye, its the Z key. On the keyboard.

sirbum69 · 04-01-11, 10:26 AM

yeh i downloaded that pdf...and actully i would have been completly confused after reading it...Stons video was alot more informative. But either way that doesnt answer my question as far as when do i know to subtract or not subtract from 360...

in alot of his movies he just moves the compass out to the bearing they guy tells him...another words sonar says bearing 56 degrees....so he moves a line out on the 56 degree bearing...

but in this new tutorial they say bearing 286 degrees so he actully subtracts that from 360 then moves it out 110 degrees....

i believe this is because its a number bigger then 180...so i was asking if its bigger then 180 is that how i know that i have to subtract it from 360?

03-31-11, 04:33 PM	#1
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	Range to target with Hydro?? How would i go about getting the range to target using the Hydro...Reason im asking is because i want to try and play on realistic settings, so that another words i have no contact info on my map. Im tired of seeing the dam ship.... So when he tells me that its on bearing 300 long ways, i know how to stretch a line out on bearing 300 but i never know how far. Because he never gives a range. Now i know if i look through the scope, then i can ask my watch officer to give me range but i would like to do it without coming up until i have too. So, How do you all do it, until you just have to come up and when do you know to come up, if they dont give range... Main reason im wanting to know this is because latly soon as i go down in water a line shows up, but my sonar cant find it...Then if i go up to surface a ship shows up on my map, but i cant see or lock onto it with the UZO lol....so how can it show on map if i cant even lock onto it... I just want to start playing more realistic, just not sure how to do it...ive watched some of stonaims videos, great videos, just hes always looking through scope..

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03-31-11, 04:39 PM	#3
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	I was just gonna edit my post Ston...I just found that video and am watching it now....Soon as i heard you say you were gonna get range with the new patch i new i had just posted a stupid post.... LOL off to watch it now, great tuts tho....

03-31-11, 04:57 PM	#5
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	sounds great... and omg LOL....was the phone a pizza LOL...

03-31-11, 07:55 PM	#7
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	LOL ahh so you had to scuttle the U-boat, oh well it happens

03-31-11, 09:36 PM	#9
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	actully its very accurate for getting the range, so yeh realizm wise its not too true, but least now i can play with out map contacts and actully get something with out ever poping scope up.... But Ston what i didnt know and found out after trying this numorus times is that in order to get an accurate reading range wise you have to move the hydrophone to where he says the bearing is before you ask for range. in your tutorial you never said that tho i saw you stayed there alot, i just didnt know you had to manually do it. i figured once you had him track the target he would track it....kept getting targets course way off, i had him going away more or less, was funny though i would still hit him but way sooner then i figured... Thats how i realized, i turned map contacts back on and tried it again to see where i was going wrong. great tutorial tho. tought me alot about plotting and how you can hit ships with out firing on 0 degree fast 90...though i do that alot

04-01-11, 12:57 AM	#11
stoianm Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,776 Downloads: 833 Uploads: 11	- yes you have right... this methode and the one with Auto tdc is not for the pro players... just watch the new tutorial ... will be online in few minutes

04-01-11, 05:28 AM	#12
stoianm Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,776 Downloads: 833 Uploads: 11	22) How to use the 4 bearing method in SH5 (Kuikueg method - i recomand for all SH5 players that do not know this method to find time to watch this video tutorial) ==> Link

04-01-11, 09:37 AM	#13
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	I just watched your newest video on the 4 bearing, very good video...i think it will take me some time to get all the steps down but it will make playing in fog very nice lol... Question for you tho, actully two questions... 1. how do i know when i have to subtract the bearing from 360. Is it when ever the bearing is more then 180? 2. you always say in your video that you hit the "Zeth" key to have your hydro guy give you bearing...what is the Zeth key...i assume its the "Z" key but in english i dont know what key it is...

04-01-11, 10:26 AM	#15
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	yeh i downloaded that pdf...and actully i would have been completly confused after reading it...Stons video was alot more informative. But either way that doesnt answer my question as far as when do i know to subtract or not subtract from 360... in alot of his movies he just moves the compass out to the bearing they guy tells him...another words sonar says bearing 56 degrees....so he moves a line out on the 56 degree bearing... but in this new tutorial they say bearing 286 degrees so he actully subtracts that from 360 then moves it out 110 degrees.... i believe this is because its a number bigger then 180...so i was asking if its bigger then 180 is that how i know that i have to subtract it from 360?