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Old 10-23-09, 10:42 PM   #1
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Michael Moore can dish it out. But can he take it?

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...a cottage industry that has emerged in recent years: filmmakers looking to take on the 55-year-old Mr. Moore at his own game.

There's Minnesota filmmaker Michael Wilson, who made 2004's "Michael Moore Hates America." It portrays Mr. Moore as being disingenuous to his interview subjects and profiting from their misfortune.

"Fahrenhype 9/11," written in part by former Clinton administration adviser Dick Morris, and "Celsius 41.11," directed by Kevin Knoblock, both from 2004, defended George W. Bush as he sought reelection. "Michael & Me," directed by Republican talk-show host Larry Elder, came out a year later, defending gun advocates against Mr. Moore's claims.

Then came "Me & Michael," a 2006 spoof on Mr. Moore's tactics. After director Willard Morgan pesters and follows Mr. Moore for months, mimicking Mr. Moore's style, Mr. Moore calls him a "stalker" and suggests he get medical help.

Sweet! The video is especially fun to watch, as Moore dodges people trying to interview him.
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Old 10-23-09, 11:17 PM   #2
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Heh heh. Given his increasingly ponderous size it's not easy for Mr. Moore to dodge anything.
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Old 10-24-09, 01:02 AM   #3
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Well given, as Mike himself pointed out, that he's had more films criticizing him than the number he's made over the years... yeah I'd say he can take it.
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Old 10-24-09, 04:15 AM   #4
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Well given, as Mike himself pointed out, that he's had more films criticizing him than the number he's made over the years... yeah I'd say he can take it.
Umm, that means he "can take it"? Seems like he has no choice.

Regardless of your politics, if you don't see the guy as nothing more than a disingenuous hack, you're an idiot. He's made so many false claims iand obvious distortions in his films that it only exposes the weak-mindedness of his crowd when they support him.

The fact that only one party truly distances itself from him only serves to highlight the intellectual weakness of the other. Hell, even *I* agree with some of his points - I just find myself too beholden to my integrity to have to you use tactics of spin and distortion to make the point.
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Old 10-24-09, 07:57 AM   #5
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I think Moore will appreciate the publicity.

I think it would be better if we just ignored Michael Moore.
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I think Moore will appreciate the publicity.

I think it would be better if we just ignored Michael Moore.
I second this motion.
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Umm, that means he "can take it"?
...uh yeah? The few films he's made have been immensely successful (Fahrenheit 9/11 alone grossed $200 million at the box office), so do you really think that, after all the ones which have been made scrutinizing him, one more is going to make him any less successful?
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...uh yeah? The few films he's made have been immensely successful (Fahrenheit 9/11 alone grossed $200 million at the box office), so do you really think that, after all the ones which have been made scrutinizing him, one more is going to make him any less successful?
Goes to show you that the country has it's share of suckers.
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Old 10-25-09, 05:21 AM   #9
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...uh yeah? The few films he's made have been immensely successful (Fahrenheit 9/11 alone grossed $200 million at the box office), so do you really think that, after all the ones which have been made scrutinizing him, one more is going to make him any less successful?
Thanks for making my point for me. Gee, I guess he must be the first successful ... anybody ... that is confronted with "taking it". Let's see, either he had no choice - or he'd just commit suicide.

Really, are you insane? Are you really suggesting that Moore as a person is any more equipped to handle criticism than anyone else?

My point is that - umm ... so? Sure, he can take it. So can most other people, should they be thrust into a situation where the feedback is likely.

Hell, I personally find the idiots who buy into his anti-capitalist garbage to be hilarious as they emphatically agree with Moore while he laughs his way to the bank with their money.

Who said anything about making him less successful? Or was that the mindless liberal in you just coming out? Hell, I don't care - let the guy make his money however he wants to ... if he wants to peddle distortions and he has a market of idiots who will make him rich off of them, all the while agreeing that rich people are somehow evil, damn, good job M&M.

To me, he's on the same level as Rush Limbaugh - his business is politics. Let them both have their business and profit from it. But, you have to have blinders on to not notice the clear distinction - both clearly gladly profit from their positions but only one makes the statement that the same thing that's made him rich is someone immoral.

I personally don't like either hardline side and I hate ideological spin, and have a complete disdain for people who seem to mindlessly buy into anything their side does. Michael Moore is no one special as far as having the backbone to take criticism. It's pretty damned easy to take anything in stride when your film makes $200M.

So, like I said, thanks for making my point.
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Heh heh. Given his increasingly ponderous size it's not easy for Mr. Moore to dodge anything.
His portrayal in Team America always makes me laugh!
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His portrayal in Team America always makes me laugh!
He's a man so dedicated- that he will get right down on his knees and put that **** right in his mouth!
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He's a man so dedicated- that he will get right down on his knees and put that **** right in his mouth!
No it was the line "It was destroyed by a socialist weasel."
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