The 1st. Real Submarine

Laufen zum Ziel · 03-03-08, 11:18 AM

Nice drawings. Is this really the first?

Holland A-1 design, 1901 (USA) [Chant, 1996]. This boat may be regarded as the first real submarine. It features diesel electric propulsion and has on board torpedo tubes. The life and works of John P. Holland, is outlined in [Morris, 1998

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Brag · 03-03-08, 01:22 PM

First time I've seen drawings of the Holland sub. Thank you, Laufen.

Mush Martin · 03-03-08, 01:26 PM

I thought the Hollands all had petrol's

Grayson02sept1980 · 03-03-08, 02:12 PM

I thought the first "war"-submarine was built by the Confed army during the war of secession ...
The first ever built Submarine was the Turtle built 1776 by David Bushnell
Durint the American Civil War the Confed army used handpowered "tubes" to get heavy explosive charges to ships.... etc.

Just asked Wikipedia...

kiwi_2005 · 03-03-08, 02:22 PM

The first true submarine was the XXI:hmm: If thats what you mean...

Letum · 03-03-08, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

The first true submarine was the XXI:hmm: If thats what you mean...

nah, even the XXI is still a diving-boat.

Jimbuna · 03-03-08, 05:21 PM

For those who are interested in Holland

http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/plans/plans.html

http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/projects/holland5.php

http://www.geocities.com/gwmccue/Submarines/Photos.html

Laufen zum Ziel · 03-03-08, 07:45 PM

jimbuna,

your first link is my secrete spot to go to for interesting stuff. Give me another one you won't tell about. Just kidding shareing is what makes Subsim great.

http://silent-hunter-addict.com

Christoff · 03-03-08, 08:54 PM

Ive got a pic of an illustraion of a submarine from the 1500s !
It's a tapestry type of affair, Trouble is I can't find the original site i got it from so i can't post it here.
In short it was rather like a rowing boat wich had a canvass top cover sealed using a thick tar, with the holes for the oars blocked up with cloth and tar also.
It controlled it's depth with an air filled bladder which the ocupants would sit and place their feet upon, By aplying preasure or releasing it, they could increase or decrease their depth.
No idea if it actually worked but the picture quite clearly shows it underwater travelling along close to the bank of the river Thames with people walking along the shoreline.
Just wish I could find the site again.

Subnuts · 03-03-08, 09:20 PM

Here's an excellent site on John P. Holland and his submarines:

http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/barracks/1401/

Jimbuna · 03-04-08, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufen zum Ziel

jimbuna,

your first link is my secrete spot to go to for interesting stuff. Give me another one you won't tell about. Just kidding shareing is what makes Subsim great.

http://silent-hunter-addict.com

LOL

Torplexed · 03-04-08, 08:16 AM

Speaking of 'Holland'.

Didn't the Dutch invent the first submarine in the 17th century courtesy of Cornelius Drebbel? Basically two wooden boats joined together top to top with oars for propulsion.

BBC replica...

Laufen zum Ziel · 03-04-08, 10:58 AM

Torplexed,

Great photograph. Got to love it.

http://silent-hunter-addict.com

03-03-08, 11:18 AM	#1
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	The 1st. Real Submarine Nice drawings. Is this really the first? *Holland A-1 design, 1901 (USA) [Chant, 1996]. This boat may be regarded as the first real* submarine. It features diesel electric propulsion and has on board torpedo tubes. The life and works of John P. Holland, is outlined in [Morris, 1998** http://silent-hunter-addict.com __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

03-03-08, 01:22 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	First time I've seen drawings of the Holland sub. Thank you, Laufen. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

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Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I thought the Hollands all had petrol's __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

03-03-08, 02:12 PM	#4
Grayson02sept1980 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany-Bayreuth Posts: 276 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I thought the first "war"-submarine was built by the Confed army during the war of secession ... The first ever built Submarine was the Turtle built 1776 by David Bushnell Durint the American Civil War the Confed army used handpowered "tubes" to get heavy explosive charges to ships.... etc. Just asked Wikipedia... __________________ SH3 Commander GWX 2.0 OLC GUI

03-03-08, 02:22 PM	#5
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	The first true submarine was the XXI:hmm: If thats what you mean... __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

03-03-08, 05:21 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	For those who are interested in Holland http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/plans/plans.html http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/projects/holland5.php http://www.geocities.com/gwmccue/Submarines/Photos.html __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-03-08, 07:45 PM	#8
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	jimbuna, your first link is my secrete spot to go to for interesting stuff. Give me another one you won't tell about. Just kidding shareing is what makes Subsim great. http://silent-hunter-addict.com __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

03-03-08, 08:54 PM	#9
Christoff Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 25 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ive got a pic of an illustraion of a submarine from the 1500s ! It's a tapestry type of affair, Trouble is I can't find the original site i got it from so i can't post it here. In short it was rather like a rowing boat wich had a canvass top cover sealed using a thick tar, with the holes for the oars blocked up with cloth and tar also. It controlled it's depth with an air filled bladder which the ocupants would sit and place their feet upon, By aplying preasure or releasing it, they could increase or decrease their depth. No idea if it actually worked but the picture quite clearly shows it underwater travelling along close to the bank of the river Thames with people walking along the shoreline. Just wish I could find the site again.

03-03-08, 09:20 PM	#10
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Here's an excellent site on John P. Holland and his submarines: http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/barracks/1401/ __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

03-04-08, 08:16 AM	#12
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Speaking of 'Holland'. Didn't the Dutch invent the first submarine in the 17th century courtesy of Cornelius Drebbel? Basically two wooden boats joined together top to top with oars for propulsion. BBC replica...

03-04-08, 10:58 AM	#13
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Torplexed, Great photograph. Got to love it. http://silent-hunter-addict.com __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

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