can`t get rid of pinging DD

raduz · 12-13-07, 06:37 AM

I made a special mission in ME (just for trainining purposes), it is summer 1943, there is one veteran V&W, and me (VIIC, probably not equiped with anti-sonar coating). the DD is pretty close and has me tightly locked. I successfully evade his DC`s, but no way I can evade his pinging. I dove to 260 m (I cant get anywhere deeper, the boat starts to get damage under 260 m), I tried to change the course +-5, then +-10 degrees, then even +-90 degrees, I often changed the depth +-20m, then +-100m, I was launching decoys, tried silent running, engines off, running at full speed ... but everything was useless... the DD has always found me with his nasty pinging

turning stern or bow in his direction doesnt help at all. what is wrong? I dont want to submerge and get him with torpedo, I just want to learn how to evade. and yes, I have a good timing (silent running, then full speed when the DD drops the DCs, then silent running again etc). I am really desperate, it takes hours and I cant get rid of him...

Brag · 12-13-07, 08:02 AM

With engines stopped, he will find you where he left you. So that's useless. The only hope is, high speed when he's on top of you, go to one knot with some port or starboard rudder when DC stop exploding. Sometimes there is no escape. Patience.

I look at single missions as training scenarios for a career.

raduz · 12-13-07, 08:05 AM

Yes, I know stopping engines is useless. I only tried it as a desperate solution, because some people said it helped them once. and what is the difference between 1 knot speed silent running and 2 knots speed silent running? I thought it is the RPM that reveals your position, and as long as it is under 100 no matter what speed you are traveling, you should be OK, or not?

Wild_skipper · 12-13-07, 08:16 AM

It has evrything to do with noise if you go silent running all the men in the uboat will make less noise than when you have it off .
Hope this helps.

Mittelwaechter · 12-13-07, 09:54 AM

You may drop a bold.

Go to PD, observe DD! Stip you P out for seconds only! ASDIC doesn't work properly at PD.

Silent Running, 2 Kts. - keep your six showing! DD in P ~ 160° to 200°.

Whenever DD shows stern section (150 to 210) speed up. Slow down again to 2 Kts. when DD turns out.

Good luck!

Blacklight · 12-13-07, 02:43 PM

Just surface and tell him to stop being a bully !

12-13-07, 06:37 AM	#1
raduz Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slovakia Posts: 205 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	can`t get rid of pinging DD I made a special mission in ME (just for trainining purposes), it is summer 1943, there is one veteran V&W, and me (VIIC, probably not equiped with anti-sonar coating). the DD is pretty close and has me tightly locked. I successfully evade his DC`s, but no way I can evade his pinging. I dove to 260 m (I cant get anywhere deeper, the boat starts to get damage under 260 m), I tried to change the course +-5, then +-10 degrees, then even +-90 degrees, I often changed the depth +-20m, then +-100m, I was launching decoys, tried silent running, engines off, running at full speed ... but everything was useless... the DD has always found me with his nasty pinging turning stern or bow in his direction doesnt help at all. what is wrong? I dont want to submerge and get him with torpedo, I just want to learn how to evade. and yes, I have a good timing (silent running, then full speed when the DD drops the DCs, then silent running again etc). I am really desperate, it takes hours and I cant get rid of him...

12-13-07, 08:02 AM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	With engines stopped, he will find you where he left you. So that's useless. The only hope is, high speed when he's on top of you, go to one knot with some port or starboard rudder when DC stop exploding. Sometimes there is no escape. Patience. I look at single missions as training scenarios for a career. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

12-13-07, 08:05 AM	#3
raduz Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slovakia Posts: 205 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yes, I know stopping engines is useless. I only tried it as a desperate solution, because some people said it helped them once. and what is the difference between 1 knot speed silent running and 2 knots speed silent running? I thought it is the RPM that reveals your position, and as long as it is under 100 no matter what speed you are traveling, you should be OK, or not? Last edited by raduz; 12-13-07 at 08:27 AM.

12-13-07, 08:16 AM	#4
Wild_skipper Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 140 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	It has evrything to do with noise if you go silent running all the men in the uboat will make less noise than when you have it off . Hope this helps. __________________ GWX 3.0 gold

12-13-07, 09:54 AM	#5
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	You may drop a bold. Go to PD, observe DD! Stip you P out for seconds only! ASDIC doesn't work properly at PD. Silent Running, 2 Kts. - keep your six showing! DD in P ~ 160° to 200°. Whenever DD shows stern section (150 to 210) speed up. Slow down again to 2 Kts. when DD turns out. Good luck! __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

12-13-07, 02:43 PM	#6
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Just surface and tell him to stop being a bully ! __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

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