Realistic S-Class Crew Configs

LukeFF · 04-18-07, 03:23 PM

Realistic S-class Crew Configs

This mod reconfigures the starting crew for both types of S-class submarines. The stock version of the game had way too many petty officers and had officers watch standing in locations where they shouldn't be, and the crew complement was way above the number typically assigned to these boats. The crew configuration now more accurately reflects what would be found in reality. The main changes are:

-Removal of 1 slot per shift in the engine room.
-Removal of officers from the engine room and sensors station
-Removal of Chief Petty Officer from the deck gun
-Addition of non-rated seamen to the deck gun, sensors station, control room, torpedo room, and engine room compartments.

ISSUES:

-The game currently does not allow the starting watch crew configurations to be altered, thus these remain unchanged. In addition, the game does not allow one to have Chief Petty Officers with a Command speciality nor Petty Officers with a Guns specialty.

-INSTALLATION:

JSGME Ready. For manual installation, extract these files to /Data/Submarine/NSS_S42 and NSS_S18

-COMPATABILITY:

Version 1.2 and later.

-REFERENCE:

The source for this mod was http://www.valoratsea.com/Sclass1.htm Future crew config mods will also be based on the numbers found at this site.

http://files.filefront.com/Realistic.../fileinfo.html

hmatthias · 04-18-07, 03:42 PM

Well, I guess that decides for me that I am taking out a "sugar boat" on my first 1.2 patrol! Thanks again! REALISM AHOY!!!

Beery · 04-18-07, 03:45 PM

This is awesome! Just the sort of realism I like.

It looks like you've decided to address the crews of other sub types too. If so I'd love to be able to offer a full set in RFB.

U-Bones · 04-18-07, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF

ISSUES:

-The game currently does not allow the starting watch crew configurations to be altered, thus these remain unchanged.

The S-Class Watch Crew is in
data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\UnitParts4Sclass.upc
There are versions in the file for each conning tower.

Directory of F:\SH4 1.2 Sans Movies\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData

02/27/2007 06:25 PM 53,356 UnitParts1Gato.upc
02/27/2007 05:40 PM 37,704 UnitParts2Porpoise.upc
02/27/2007 06:20 PM 29,323 UnitParts3Balao.upc
02/28/2007 11:13 AM 34,261 UnitParts4SClass.upc
02/27/2007 05:39 PM 37,813 UnitParts5Salmon.upc
02/27/2007 05:38 PM 37,757 UnitParts6Sargo.upc
02/27/2007 05:44 PM 38,661 UnitParts7Tambor.upc
7 File(s) 268,875 bytes
0 Dir(s) 0 bytes free

Nice MOD, btw !

LukeFF · 04-18-07, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beery

It looks like you've decided to address the crews of other sub types too. If so I'd love to be able to offer a full set in RFB.

Sure, that'd be fine. I'm gonna try to knock out as many of the others today that I can.

LukeFF · 04-18-07, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Bones

The S-Class Watch Crew is in
data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\UnitParts4Sclass.upc

Thank you! I'll be updating those files then, as well, for each type.

Beery · 04-18-07, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beery

It looks like you've decided to address the crews of other sub types too. If so I'd love to be able to offer a full set in RFB.

Sure, that'd be fine. I'm gonna try to knock out as many of the others today that I can.

You're a star! I've been meaning to look at them myself but events keep conspiring against me, hehe.

Balu0 · 04-18-07, 04:49 PM

Nice mode... I[REQ]-ed for one like this

Sailor Steve · 04-18-07, 04:56 PM

Cool stuff! Thanks!

castorp345 · 04-18-07, 06:44 PM

outstanding, LukeFF!
many thanks!!
'looking forward to your similar treatment of the other boats.

LukeFF · 04-18-07, 07:04 PM

Glad you guys are liking this. Here's what the 1942 Gato looks like right now:

The Deck Gun crew is a WIP. For one, we can't have POs with the Guns speciality right now, and I might end up axing everyone from the gun deck as it is, depending on what people tell me about their role on the boat (i.e., was this their only duty station, or were they pulled from somewhere else, a la SH3).

kakemann · 04-18-07, 07:09 PM

Great work mr!

Galanti · 04-19-07, 10:18 AM

Great mod, LukFF! I have grumbling about the unrealistic crew configs and have been meaning to look into it myself.

Have you got plans for the Sargo and Salmons? I imagine applying this mod would involve starting a new career.

Also, have you tested in career mode and are there any issues when upgrading to a new boat? I'm just wondering if the egine expects all the sub classes to have the same layout.

LukeFF · 04-19-07, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galanti

Have you got plans for the Sargo and Salmons? I imagine applying this mod would involve starting a new career.

Also, have you tested in career mode and are there any issues when upgrading to a new boat? I'm just wondering if the egine expects all the sub classes to have the same layout.

Yes, I have plans for the Salmon and Sargo, plus all the other ones out there I've not yet touched. Now that I know how the coding works it's a simple update to each file.

I've tested this in career mode, and so far it works fine. I don't see why there'd be any problems with crew layout, as each class of boat uses its own unique crew config file.

LukeFF · 04-20-07, 02:28 AM

One more for the road (Tambor Class) before I start a weekend full of work:

All the fleet boats will pretty much look like this, as you can probably tell by comparing this shot with the Gato one above. I wanted to add in an extra three slots in each torpedo room, but the game would have none of that.

Hopefully I'll have this all wrapped up by mid-week next week.

04-18-07, 03:23 PM	#1
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	[REL] Realistic S-Class Crew Configs Realistic S-class Crew Configs This mod reconfigures the starting crew for both types of S-class submarines. The stock version of the game had way too many petty officers and had officers watch standing in locations where they shouldn't be, and the crew complement was way above the number typically assigned to these boats. The crew configuration now more accurately reflects what would be found in reality. The main changes are: -Removal of 1 slot per shift in the engine room. -Removal of officers from the engine room and sensors station -Removal of Chief Petty Officer from the deck gun -Addition of non-rated seamen to the deck gun, sensors station, control room, torpedo room, and engine room compartments. ISSUES: -The game currently does not allow the starting watch crew configurations to be altered, thus these remain unchanged. In addition, the game does not allow one to have Chief Petty Officers with a Command speciality nor Petty Officers with a Guns specialty. -INSTALLATION: JSGME Ready. For manual installation, extract these files to /Data/Submarine/NSS_S42 and NSS_S18 -COMPATABILITY: Version 1.2 and later. -REFERENCE: The source for this mod was http://www.valoratsea.com/Sclass1.htm Future crew config mods will also be based on the numbers found at this site. http://files.filefront.com/Realistic.../fileinfo.html Last edited by LukeFF; 04-18-07 at 05:39 PM.

04-18-07, 03:45 PM	#3
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is awesome! Just the sort of realism I like. It looks like you've decided to address the crews of other sub types too. If so I'd love to be able to offer a full set in RFB. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

04-18-07, 04:56 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cool stuff! Thanks! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-18-07, 06:44 PM	#10
castorp345 Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of Cambridge Posts: 379 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	outstanding, LukeFF! many thanks!! 'looking forward to your similar treatment of the other boats. __________________ my diminutive mod contributions new chronometer thermalizer Japanese wartime radio pack Japanese traditional radio pack new radio new ordnance what color is your torped o aye, sir! sound mod

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04-18-07, 03:42 PM	#2
hmatthias Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I guess that decides for me that I am taking out a "sugar boat" on my first 1.2 patrol! Thanks again! REALISM AHOY!!!

04-18-07, 04:49 PM	#8
Balu0 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	Nice mode... I[REQ]-ed for one like this

04-18-07, 07:04 PM	#11
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Glad you guys are liking this. Here's what the 1942 Gato looks like right now: The Deck Gun crew is a WIP. For one, we can't have POs with the Guns speciality right now, and I might end up axing everyone from the gun deck as it is, depending on what people tell me about their role on the boat (i.e., was this their only duty station, or were they pulled from somewhere else, a la SH3).

04-18-07, 07:09 PM	#12
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Great work mr!

04-19-07, 10:18 AM	#13
Galanti Captain Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 536 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	Great mod, LukFF! I have grumbling about the unrealistic crew configs and have been meaning to look into it myself. Have you got plans for the Sargo and Salmons? I imagine applying this mod would involve starting a new career. Also, have you tested in career mode and are there any issues when upgrading to a new boat? I'm just wondering if the egine expects all the sub classes to have the same layout.

04-20-07, 02:28 AM	#15
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	One more for the road (Tambor Class) before I start a weekend full of work: All the fleet boats will pretty much look like this, as you can probably tell by comparing this shot with the Gato one above. I wanted to add in an extra three slots in each torpedo room, but the game would have none of that. Hopefully I'll have this all wrapped up by mid-week next week.