War Ace Campaign Mod (current v 3.0)

[The Munster]

Hi, I'll give it a go :up:

[Tuddley3]

:yep:Hans, me me me me !!!!

[dcb]

so.... Update to 2.1 is ready.. to test.
I want someone to test at least ther´s no ctd ...
Any volunteers?

I am here, as always.

[danurve]

HanSolo78; that update list looks great! I would be hard to pick out any favorite addition but I'm glad your including Ocean Blue's damage mod, most excellent!

Now, I'm going to have to change my signature again, your killing me .. :arrgh!:

I have made a custom 'new radio message received' ogg to my taste, if anyone would like to check it out --> http://mysh3.info/WAC

[HanSolo78]

2.1 is out now!!!!

[Alex]

That's just a 2.0 to 2.1 update ? :huh:
I thought it would be the full WAC expansion updated....
But thanks. :yep:

edit

Don't forget to update the thread's title to "War Ace Campaign Mod (current v2.1)" ;)

[HanSolo78]

That's just a 2.0 to 2.1 update ? :huh:
I thought it would be the full WAC expansion updated....
But thanks. :yep:

edit

Don't forget to update the thread's title to "War Ace Campaign Mod (current v2.1)" ;)

It is only an update because of traffic ;)

Unfortunately the host of the full update is already down... will be online in 2 hours again... :nope:

[Cheapskate]

That's just a 2.0 to 2.1 update ? :huh:

Just an update? Yes, it is Alex. But what an update.... 150 meg no less!!

Hansolo, you have excelled yourself with this one :sunny:

Although I have only had a quick look....couple of training missions and a glance round the Museum.....I am forced to look at your latest offering with my fingers holding the eyeballs firmly in their sockets.

They popped out :o when I saw the minelayer Type 34: Does it really lay those evil looking mines lined up on the stern? And again when I looked at the minesweeper: Does it really sweep mines and can you call it in to clear some of the additional minefields you have put in round the E Coast of the UK? Please note: These questions are only half serious!!!.....

Then there is the smoke blowing in the direction that the wind is coming from. Never thought I would see that in SH3. Nor did I expect to see heavier smoke rising higher than that coming from small fires which can sometimes blow horizontally. Who do we have to thank for that? I know Pascal did the smoke (Thanks Pascal :up: ). Was it Anvart who did the particles?

Then there are the Luftwaffe transmission intercepts. It's strange but I think I know that ground controller! Ran across him about 18 months ago whilst trying to land a crippled Ju 87 somewhere to the southwest of Smolensk!!!

Wonderful, wonderful stuff HS...was delighted to see Urfisch/DivingDuck's magnificent open hatch work included too.

Hope one day to see what else you have included ...if I can ever get around to starting a career in WAC!!!

Again many, many thanks :rock: :rock: :rock:

[HanSolo78]

That's just a 2.0 to 2.1 update ? :huh:

Just an update? Yes, it is Alex. But what an update.... 150 meg no less!!

Hansolo, you have excelled yourself with this one :sunny:

Although I have only had a quick look....couple of training missions and a glance round the Museum.....I am forced to look at your latest offering with my fingers holding the eyeballs firmly in their sockets.

They popped out :o when I saw the minelayer Type 34: Does it really lay those evil looking mines lined up on the stern? And again when I looked at the minesweeper: Does it really sweep mines and can you call it in to clear some of the additional minefields you have put in round the E Coast of the UK? Please note: These questions are only half serious!!!.....

Then there is the smoke blowing in the direction that the wind is coming from. Never thought I would see that in SH3. Nor did I expect to see heavier smoke rising higher than that coming from small fires which can sometimes blow horizontally. Who do we have to thank for that? I know Pascal did the smoke (Thanks Pascal :up: ). Was it Anvart who did the particles?

Then there are the Luftwaffe transmission intercepts. It's strange but I think I know that ground controller! Ran across him about 18 months ago whilst trying to land a crippled Ju 87 somewhere to the southwest of Smolensk!!!

Wonderful, wonderful stuff HS...was delighted to see Urfisch/DivingDuck's magnificent open hatch work included too.

Hope one day to see what else you have included ...if I can ever get around to starting a career in WAC!!!

Again many, many thanks :rock: :rock: :rock:


Thank you! :)

Unfortunately the mine racks on some destroyers and the Flottenbegleiter are just eyecandy because there is no trigger in the game to let them lay mines.
Also the minedetection boat is just eyecandy.
But hey.. it adds atmosphere ;)

Coming to the smoke... as you mentioned.. the smoke was done by Pascal/Anvart..
the particles of smoke/fire I did myself..
unfortunately it is not possible / I found no way to let the smoke head to wind direction. But nevertheless... you don´t have to watch the clouds moving and comparing to smoke direction, so it adds atmosphere too!

so far.. I am done.. for some weeks/months..
life is calling ;)

Han

[Cheapskate]

Unfortunately the mine racks on some destroyers and the Flottenbegleiter are just eyecandy because there is no trigger in the game to let them lay mines.
Also the minedetection boat is just eyecandy.
But hey.. it adds atmosphere ;)
I did guess that these ships were eye candy. But, no matter - I don't think you can have too much eye ( or ear ) candy...although there are some who might disagree! Great stuff Han :up:

Coming to the smoke... as you mentioned.. the smoke was done by Pascal/Anvart..
die particles of smoke/fire I did myself..
unfortunately it is not possible / I found no way to let the smoke head to wind direction. But nevertheless... you don´t have to watch the clouds moving and comparing to smoke direction, so it adds atmosphere too!

I thought it was blowing in accordance with the wind direction but must admit I didn't get a weather report from Navigator. Never mind though....another visual treat. Beats anything I've seen smokewise until now. Grateful thanks to everyone involved... Pascal (again ) :up: , Anvart :up: and yourself :up: :up:

so far.. I am done.. for some weeks/months..
life is calling ;) Han

Well you deserve a rest after all that work. Nearly said make it a week or two. But on second thoughts....you can have a month! Then maybe Redwine and myself might just have enough time to get our WAC's fine tuned and start a career before you come out with 2.2 !!

tschuus!

CSkate

[Alex]

That's just a 2.0 to 2.1 update ? :huh:

Just an update? Yes, it is Alex. But what an update.... 150 meg no less!!

Sorry if you have misunderstood what I said : before downloading it I was thinking something like "hey, Hansolo have updated the expansion, it's going to take me several days to download the full thing http://www.crypticmadness.com/Forum/images/Smiles/hammer.gif" (considering I have problems with my comp).... So for me, it was just kind of a good surprise to see that it is "just" an update. ;)

[Redwine]

It is only an update because of traffic ;)

Unfortunately the host of the full update is already down... will be online in 2 hours again... :nope:

Hi Han... many thanks ! :up:

Can i overwrite the files of V2.0 and store it as a full V2.1 ?

[HanSolo78]

It is only an update because of traffic ;)

Unfortunately the host of the full update is already down... will be online in 2 hours again... :nope:

Hi Han... many thanks ! :up:

Can i overwrite the files of V2.0 and store it as a full V2.1 ?

Yes, of course!

[danurve]

I am setting up a mirror - alternate download for the WAC 2.1 files per HanSolo78's permission. It will be a basic download, decent speed, no pop-ups, no annoying banners or obnoxious porn.
For now the 2.1 Update is available (rar), at the moment I am having some difficulty obtaining the 2.1 full files. Need to wait in line like everyone else :huh:

http://mysh3.info/files

[MobyGrape]

I'm just thinking:hmm: about getting this campaign mod..is 2.1 rar all i need to start or do i need any previous files..Thanks

[danurve]

The 2.1 rar is just an update for the 2.0 full install.

[E.Hartmann]

Why does the War Aces Campaign main page download always go to a site with errors and no data to download?

is this the only place these files are able to be downloaded from?

http://www.speedshare.org/jRloRJ9cGk

[danurve]

There are two other download sites;

http://hosted.filefront.com/Tuddley3
and
http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ UBRS DLC
as well as
http://mysh3.info/files for the 2.0-2.1 update.

[danurve]

If you dock next to the ship, as you normally would all seems well.
Except when you start the next patrol, or restart the game and start the next patrol your Uboat gets stuck in the Ship! I tried restarting the patrol with several exit - saves and night or day your stuck in the resupply ship.

First set of screens (http://mysh3.info/WAC/thalia/thalia_4.jpg)

You can turn to one side and enable engines and the boat eventually "pops" out from under the ship!
So then I tried docking ahead of the resupply ship. This seemed to work! And the game proceeds normally it seems. Except once you begin to pull away the F5 screen shows a land unit of sorts. If you zoom in says there is a missing tga file.

Second set of screens (http://mysh3.info/WAC/thalia/thalia_42.jpg)

Here is the zoom.

Tga shape not found (http://mysh3.info/WAC/thalia/27_968.jpg)

[danurve]

Btw; I have saved this game for now, just before docking and docked ahead as not to be stuck. This way it can be perhaps used to test fixes.

[HanSolo78]

@danurve

thx for report!
have to examine that anytime... these support ship milkcows are still built in by the origin mod author and I had´nt experienced that error until now.

[The Munster]

Hi, does anybody out there have [or know where I can get] a complete version of 2.0 that I can download then load via JSGME.

[danurve]

http://hosted.filefront.com/Tuddley3 has the 2.0 in 4 parts.

[danurve]

These findings are not complete, but ment as a work around if you find your sub stuck as well.

Do not turn the rudder and enable engines as I mentioned previously!
This seems to move the supply ship, or get it going somehow and later in the patrol you will find the Thalia headed West into the Atlantic (http://mysh3.info/WAC/thalia/44_578.jpg)!

Instead untill a better solution or resolve is made try this;
I found to drop depth to about 9m (avoid hitting the shallow bottom in the Cadiz harbour).
After a minute or so the sub will begin to drift / slide out to one side.

Please belive me when I say I don't understand why this is happening, so I can't offer help there. But I am stubborn enough to try and help fix or work around it.

edited to add #@(*^%)#|| sorry, this is not a consistant work around, unfortunatly. Damn it :damn:

[The Munster]

http://hosted.filefront.com/Tuddley3 has the 2.0 in 4 parts.

Hi, thanks but already tried installing the 4 parts but kept getting a CTD so abandoned that one.

[HanSolo78]

http://hosted.filefront.com/Tuddley3 has the 2.0 in 4 parts.

Hi, thanks but already tried installing the 4 parts but kept getting a CTD so abandoned that one.

When do you get CTD?
After intro?
If so.. delete d3d9.dll and d3d9.cfg files that belong to the resoluton fix.

[The Munster]

Status Bar is Three quarters thru the Intro Screen :damn:

[shegeek72]

Heading north toward Ireland and England, Nov. 1940 in a type VIIB; winds 15mps, clear skies, light fog. Encounter and sink several merchies. Head more easterly, toward England, hydro reports a DD, then a merchant, another merchie ... it's a convoy! As I approach surfaced, I notice all four of the destroyers have been damaged and are on fire (guess my buddies had been here before me)! I report the convoy, then put two fish into a C2, it slows to a crawl. I wait for the destroyers. They converg, I dive and brace for a DCing ... it passes overhead and no DCs! All 4 destroyers have had their DCs damaged or expended! What luck!

Shortly after, a couple luffewaffe AC show up, bomb the limping C2 and damage its engines enough to force it to stop!
http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_wac05.jpg
http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_wac_05.jpg

I bagged a couple more merchies and got my first Empire Celt Tanker, with one torp. Musta hit a sweep spot (just right of midship)!
http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_empire_celt.jpg
Fun, fun, fun !
http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_wac06.jpg
http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_wac_06.jpg

[The Munster]

Reached wits endsville with trying to get a working 2.0 without any CTD 's :damn:

First, tried Tuddley's 4 files = nope .. so put all 4 files thru JSGME and loaded up with the old screen like nothing had changed then CTD whilst trying to load a single mission .. Grr

Second, tried 2.0 lite via a download link on page 20 .. 'deposit files' = once I'd managed to trawl thru the Casino/Poker garbage and a lifetime later, Un7zipped the file and in she goes via JSGME = nope .. CTD a threequarters way thru the loading screen .. GGGRR

Third, tried 2.1 via JSGME with just 1.9 and patch = nope .. CTD a third way thru the loading screen .. GGGGRRRRR

So now I am considering wiping the whole thing out, installing stock SH3 / 1.4 / JSGME and installing 2.0 then 2.1 ..but ...

is there anywhere I can get a working 2.0 that I can dowload without growing a beard waiting, that's not in bits and I can install via JSGME ? HELP !

[Cheapskate]

Hi Kapt M

You have PM

[The Munster]

Hi Kapt M

You have PM

Hi, got it thanks.
Replied. :D

[danurve]

HaSolo78; Getting a ctd once in a while when exiting the game now with 2.1 update over 2.0 Also tried fresh reinstall from SH3 up. Any ideas?

[The Munster]

HaSolo78; Getting a ctd once in a while when exiting the game now with 2.1 update over 2.0 Also tried fresh reinstall from SH3 up. Any ideas?

Same here but not affecting/wiping out the Saves in Patrols.
Dunno wots causing this ?!

[matxer]

I can't download the 2.0 to 2.1 light update.

Would it be possible to upload it to http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ ?

Thx.

[danurve]

The light update isn't on UBRS as of yet.
I wasn't aware the light update was out, but on hansolo78's page I see the link.
If I can grab the file without having to wait for a while I'll repakage it as a zip and upload it to http://mysh3.info/sh3downloads.html (*) It'll be at least 24hrs though, only have a dsl line at home.

* no obnoxious pop-ups or stinkin pornography.

[danurve]

Well I have it but I am not sure to upload it.

I am switching back to 2.0

HanSolo78 I am consistantly getting a ctd when I go to exit the game after a save with the 2.1 update. :damn:
I am also getting a ctd most of the time when I go to load a save while still in the game. Once the game is restarted the save seems to load fine. No problems such as this in 2.0 Full.

I liked the boat shaking near explosions, the smoke-fire graphics are nice, and the sounds and some other things that I did get to check out.

[Tuddley3]

I can't download the 2.0 to 2.1 light update.

Would it be possible to upload it to http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ ?

Thx.
Did you try this link from Danurve http://mysh3.info/files
This worked for me. Only problem I see is Black Sky bug, but I have the Fix for that.

Edit:
I got Black Sky fixed, and took WAC2.1 for a test drive. WOW!!!!!
I started from Wilhelmshaven, and OMG, totally awesome. Ships everywhere, even double parked. And I laughed when I saw the oil barrels floating around. Once again, nice work Hans. I am sure there are many other surprises I havent seen yet.

[Tuddley3]

I have the CTD also when exiting(like it matters, it's exiting), but it is caused by the Sound.act file. So if someone can fix that, it would be appreciated. But as I said, it dont bother me because it's during exit from the game.

[danurve]

He is looking for the 2.1 light update, that link just has the 2.1 full. But I'll upload the light version tonight anyhow.
Tuddley3; I forgot all about the black sky problem file fix because it didn't happen to me. I have been preoccupied trying to get Thalia resupply sweet spot & 2.1 to run correctly but it's not happening. Getting ctd's so I switched back to 2.0 for now.
My system could probably chew on another gig of ram but I don't think that's the problem. Even tried a complete fresh reinstall routine.

edit; the light update is now on http://mysh3.info/files
Tuddley3; Not sure how you were able to determine sound.act is the fault that but thank you, I was ever impressed as well with the update but just got frustrated and couldn't take the ctd's. Especially when trying to load a save.
I also noticed with 2.1 the t/c was behaving sluggishly on 512+

[azn_132]

Hans, I help on makin my new ports mod to work but when I copy and paste the modified files they switch back to stock settins.

[Tuddley3]

Yeah Danurve, when I got the exit CTD, and the windows popup came on asking to Send or Do Not Send, I clicked on the Click Here button, and it showed Sound.act as the reason for the CTD.

[danurve]

Alrighty then.

Visited a translated ubisoft.de page for the mod. Looks as if this is being looked into, not exactly sure. Stats show people are downloading and digging it though :cool:
I would realy like to see this resolved. Not just because what the update has or I want to reload it and enjoy more of WAC, but this is a great mod!

[HanSolo78]

hi guys!

unfortunately I don´t know whats causing this ctd after exit... i also got it sometimes with 2.0 and now it happens everytime.

but i think that is not a real problem because with some clicks of mouse buttons or enter you´ll get to desktop in the end.

[The Munster]

Doesn't affect 'saves' so no big problem :-?

[danurve]

Well, I must say a low priority to the ctd is disconcerting. :huh:

To be honest I can't see settling on haveing to deal with, or wait for the crash, then spend time waiting for the game to load again for a save. But it is just a game. I'll stick to 2.0 then, it works just fine no ctd.
I have taken some of the sounds from the update into 2.0, and I'd like to try loading the depth charge-shake mod ontop as well. If someone could point out where to get that I would appriciate it.

edit Nevermind I found it.

[Laffertytig]

i fancy givin this mod a try. i have gwx installed to im gonna make a seperate installation and have few questions

1- do people use sub commander with this mod and if so how do u avoid complications with having 2 seperate SH3 installation (gwx+ this mod)

2- gwx has 16km visibility mod does this have the same or is it possible?

3- are AI files improved like gwx and nygm or is this a mod just with events scripted?

4- what other mods are people using alongside this one?

ive also read in some posts that this mod is a lot easier than gwx in regards to damage modeling and AI. If this is true jpw would i go about merging the best of gwx with this mod or vice versa?

thanx in advance

[The Munster]

Well, I must say a low priority to the ctd is disconcerting. :huh:

To be honest I can't see settling on haveing to deal with, or wait for the crash, then spend time waiting for the game to load again for a save. But it is just a game. I'll stick to 2.0 then, it works just fine no ctd.
I have taken some of the sounds from the update into 2.0, and I'd like to try loading the depth charge-shake mod ontop as well. If someone could point out where to get that I would appriciate it.

edit Nevermind I found it.

The CTD occurs after you've saved then exited [ESC]; it's not an issue as you are exiting the game anyway :)
A problem would be if you returned, loaded the game and your save[s] had disappeared :damn: .
That hasn't happened [so far !].

[HanSolo78]

Hi guys!

I am sorry that I am not able to fix the CTD problem... it is annoying getting this after exiting the game and I would fix it if I had an idea where the source of this error might be. nevertheless savegames and other the gameplay should work!

btw.

I´ll release an update to 2.11 because because of some bug fixes soon!

@laffertytig

1. I don´t know
2. FULL version has 16Km mod
3. AI files are changed but you have much more possibilities to escape in depth or silent running
4.I don`t know

[Laffertytig]

ok thanks for the reply. hopefully i can get some more from people who are using this mod especially about using gwx or nygm AI files. not that i dont think your changes are good, just that id like to combine the difficulty that gwx brings along with the excellent features your mod brings.

[danurve]

ok thanks for the reply. hopefully i can get some more from people who are using this mod especially about using gwx or nygm AI files. not that i dont think your changes are good, just that id like to combine the difficulty that gwx brings along with the excellent features your mod brings.

1- There is a program called SH3Multi. It is designed so you can have more then one install oviously. Now I don't use it so can't tell you how it works exactly but Im sure if you ask about it in the general forum lots of others could.
4- WAC has darn near everything I want, which is why I like it. I use the torpedo damage final & depthchargeshake with 2.0
I like using my deck gun now and then, early war of course when you can get away with it. Anyhow you can sink a ship give or take without being tied to waterline shots. Things such as this. I don't know if saying WAC is alot easier then gwx would be accurate. I don't beleive that's a fair shake because each mod changes some things and adds others etc. What some way you or I would like to play and enjoy the game someone else may wish to increase their difficulty level so far perhaps because they have played the game so much they have a hidden iron coffin death wish, I dunno. All I can tell ya is I haven't made it out of `42 yet. The air patrols in WAC kick my @ss. I would say if your looking to have mulitple installs it's probably the way to go instead of risking other issues by disecting mods.
Hope that helps a little bit.

[danurve]

The CTD occurs after you've saved then exited [ESC]; it's not an issue as you are exiting the game anyway :)
A problem would be if you returned, loaded the game and your save[s] had disappeared :damn: .
That hasn't happened [so far !].

I often save a game and then return to it while still in the game, or for example while trying to unstuck myself out of Thialia. In 2.1 in-game returns CTD. So I have to exit the game, restart it and hope the return doesn't ctd and make me restart the game again to return? How about I don't think so, that IS an issue to me.

If I sound upset I'm sorry but I don't want to play the game that way, and so I went back to 2.0 like I mentioned before. No big deal to do. People are commenting or concentrating on the ctd when your exiting the game. Granted its probably a related issue but not the thorn IMO.

edit Hansolo I forgot to mention looking forward to the next update, will it replace 2.1 or will you need to have that installed first? Thanx.

[Laffertytig]

ok ive downloaded the 2 files from tudleys site and i cant get it goin.

ive got a "war aces campaign folder" which has a data folder inside.
the other downloaded file is "WAC 2.0 extras and sound which has 3 folders

terrain update helgoland
kiel_scapa_suez
kaiser-wilhelm kanal reworked

these 3 files have files inside and a repacker exe. file

what exactly do i do with these, the readme didnt help much as it mentions merging 2 data folders and i only have 1 data folder

help

[HanSolo78]

edit Hansolo I forgot to mention looking forward to the next update, will it replace 2.1 or will you need to have that installed first? Thanx.

it will replace 2.1
unfortunately it won´t fix the ctd in exit

[Laffertytig]

is it a simple case of copying these 4 folders into the mods folder then enabling them? and how does this repacking work? when i click repack it then asks me to choose a file?

[Cheapskate]

ok ive downloaded the 2 files from tudleys site and i cant get it goin.

ive got a "war aces campaign folder" which has a data folder inside.
the other downloaded file is "WAC 2.0 extras and sound which has 3 folders

terrain update helgoland
kiel_scapa_suez
kaiser-wilhelm kanal reworked

these 3 files have files inside and a repacker exe. file

what exactly do i do with these, the readme didnt help much as it mentions merging 2 data folders and i only have 1 data folder

help

I'm surprised to hear you've got two files from Tuddleys mirror.

This normally consisted of 4 parts. You seem to have only got Pt1 and Pt 3.

Just checked with site and find there is only one WAC version 2 file listed for d/l.

Will be happy to help with your install probs but first you need to have all the files and I don't reckon you have!!!

Hopefully Tuddley can throw some light on this.

[Laffertytig]

part 1 was 620mb and part 2 was 430mb

as i said these to downloads do contain 4 folders as stated above. so am i still missing something?

[Cheapskate]

Yes, I'm pretty sure you are. The four parts V2.0 came in were about 1100mb unextracted - about 1.94 Gb when extraction completed.!

edit
Maybe Tuddley has changed the pack though.

Do you have total 1,94 Gb when unextracted??

[Laffertytig]

no version 2 is just 1.50gb. would be great to know what files im missin

[Cheapskate]

In your data folder you should have the following:-

Air 19.0 mb Campaigns 16.4 mb Cfg 231 kb Crew 37.0 mb Env 20.8mb

interior 165 kb Land 5.87 mb Library 19.0 mb Menu 117 mb Misc 15.5 mb

Movies 17.8 mb Obj 93.5 mb Roster 630 kb Sea 686 mb Submarine 106 mb

Terrain 40.3 mb Textures 340 mb Scene Dat File 354kb Zones 51.3 kb

This doesn't include the sound files or repackers.

Do you have all these ?

Sorry if this hard to read...I did leave spaces between the names but the b****y parser seems to have removed them!!

[Cheapskate]

Actually you may have the correct number of files. I was including the Sound files in my 1.94 gb and you may not have!!

Anyway the next steps to install are as follows:-

1. Copy Sound folder into your WAC data folder. Note : These are Mp3 files. Strongly suggest that you convert the gramophone files to mono Ogg format. They can cause skipping otherwise.

2) Run repackers from where they are....they don't need to go into your WAC folder.. You will be asked to point to your installation. Go to WAC/data/Terrain/data and run. They will install automatically. If you look in this folder you will see that each repacker has created a pair of backup files for each terrain item you've added. These backups ( 250 megs each pair ) can be deleted if you wish.

3) Transfer your WAC folder to the appropriate MOD folder and install with JSGME.

Hopefully it will then work OK.

[danurve]

Laffertytig; Sounds like you got the download from http://mysh3.info ? The file sizes you mentioned sound right.
If so Your not missing anything, they were just redone into two downloads instead of four.
If not perhaps you are trying to mix light version files with the full extras.
There is a sound folder in the second d/l it belongs in the data folder.
The second download has the three extra folders that need repacking.
Repackers need to point to Terraindata.BFI

http://mysh3.info/WAC/images/repackfolder3.jpg

http://mysh3.info/WAC/images/repackfolder2.jpg

http://mysh3.info/WAC/images/repackfolder.jpg

Hope that helps.
This is not nessesary with the light version to my knowledge, but perhaps as an option.
In anycase the full version will run without the extras.

[Laffertytig]

yeah ive got it goin now thanks for the help. one thing though the load time takes an age and the frame rate aint so good when it starts up, gwx runs a lot quicker.

dunno if u guys know this but its the sound folder thats causin the error message when exiting dunno which file it is though

[Cheapskate]

Good to know you've got WAC up and running.

Can't say I've noticed any particular slow down with WAC but I'm running with 2GB ram.....I think with all the stuff that Han puts in, this mod needs a bit more than the 1GB minimum that Han recommends. GWX is very quick but then it is optimised with all the tgas packed into the dats etc.

As an experiment, I installed WAC 2.0 without using JSGME thus avoiding the back ups and keeping the overall size of the mod down as much as possible. Additionally I made sure to delete the terrain backups saving about 800 meg of disk space. Also made sure to convert the gramophone sound files to mono Oggs as skipping had started to rear its ugly head!

Don't feel confident enough to direct install 2.1 yet...so I used JSGME for this update.

Not sure whether all this really helps to keep the speed up and ctds down...probably doesn't... but I haven't seen a blue screen yet...touches wood frantically! Then again, I've not tried saving in a hectic combat situation.

@ Danurve

Thanks for clearing up the mystery of the source of Laffertytig's d/l. Couldn't figure out how he managed to get everything in two files particularly when Tuddley's Filefront page now only shows one WAC 2.0 file of 90 meg!

Checked out your page....very nice tribute site for a very nice supermod.:up:

[danurve]

Your welcome, I try to help out if I can.
I'll have the new update files on mysh3.info soon btw.

Say, I was returning to Kiel from patrol and docked next to the port by the canal entrance was this ship, wasn't identified by name. Anyone know what it might be? I mean it's a carrier of sorts yeah but name? - not yet commisioned perhaps?

http://mysh3.info/danurve/4_06/19_140.jpg

Lots of cool jazz in this mod keeps suprising me.

edit; Graf Zeppelin :up: also id'ed by jimbuna, thanx!
btw, files are up.

[Cheapskate]

That would have to be KM Graf Zeppelin :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin

BTW Should've touched wood harder ( see my last post ) :damn:

Have had three BSODs in last two days. Twice leaving training missions and once exiting from Museum?? Doesn't happen all the time though :hmm:

No harm done of course..but I get a sort of uneasy feeling about what might happen if I do get around to running a career!

Cheers

Edit: :o Just noticed update to 2.15. I'll be along later when you've got them up on site. :up:

[Tuddley3]

ok ive downloaded the 2 files from tudleys site and i cant get it goin.

ive got a "war aces campaign folder" which has a data folder inside.
the other downloaded file is "WAC 2.0 extras and sound which has 3 folders

terrain update helgoland
kiel_scapa_suez
kaiser-wilhelm kanal reworked

these 3 files have files inside and a repacker exe. file

what exactly do i do with these, the readme didnt help much as it mentions merging 2 data folders and i only have 1 data folder

help
I'm surprised to hear you've got two files from Tuddleys mirror.

Hopefully Tuddley can throw some light on this.

I just checked my FileFront page, and it looks as though there is now only Part 1 of 4. Somehow FileFront is deleting them. Looks like I need to upload again, and maybe put them in a File Directory, maybe this will prevent them from being deleted. I don't understand why this is happening.

[The Munster]

Filefront will try and delete files after they have been there a certain amount of time.

[danurve]

Well I have permission from NVdrifter to upload the DepthChargeShake Mod to mysh3.info/sh3downloads.html
I belive the 2.15 update has the high level if anyone wants to try one of the other two levels there you go. I'm working on another custom WAC mod that will reset your 2.15 update back to 2.0 (non-shake).

[danurve]

I have tested 2 careers in 2.15
Thalia resupply is working with the following exeptions;
1) The ship is not there when you start the next patrol.
2) The ship is not there if you return to it again. :hmm:
As long as you dock next to the F5 [.Thalia] mark resupply functions.
Unsure why that is but as long as the boat isn't stuck *shrug*

Bought another gig of ram and that sure helps graphics, load time & jazz.
CTD still happens if you try to load a save in-game. :damn:

Fire, smoke, & sounds are good! The addition of the open-hatch mod is orgasmic :up:
Noticed some new convoy activity. Quality & variety of ships in interecepted convoys is outstanding! Bunch of other stuff but that`ll do for now.

[HanSolo78]

I have tested 2 careers in 2.15
Thalia resupply is working with the following exeptions;
1) The ship is not there when you start the next patrol.
2) The ship is not there if you return to it again. :hmm:
As long as you dock next to the F5 [.Thalia] mark resupply functions.
Unsure why that is but as long as the boat isn't stuck *shrug*

Bought another gig of ram and that sure helps graphics, load time & jazz.
CTD still happens if you try to load a save in-game. :damn:

Fire, smoke, & sounds are good! The addition of the open-hatch mod is orgasmic :up:
Noticed some new convoy activity. Quality & variety of ships in interecepted convoys is outstanding! Bunch of other stuff but that`ll do for now.

hi!

1. that is known but no problem I think
2. it is there but there has to be a distance of about 100Km between you and the supply ship, so that sh3 renders the supply ship new.

the savegame and exit bug has now high priority but it´s hard to find!

[Alex]

I definitely don't like depositfiles.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2600/dsug8.png



http://www.crypticmadness.com/Forum/images/Smiles/icon_frown.gif

[HanSolo78]

I definitely don't like depositfiles.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2600/dsug8.png



http://www.crypticmadness.com/Forum/images/Smiles/icon_frown.gif

Try the mirror from danurve!
Click his signature!! http://mysh3.info/WAC

[Alex]

Great !! :D

:up: ;) :smug:

[JScones]

FYI my experience attempting to d/l WAC last night...

1. Visited "official" site. After numerous attempts, managed to connect piece 1 via megaupload.
2. Piece 1 successfully d/l...tried to d/l piece 2 via megaupload, was told to wait 196 minutes!!!
3. Tried depositfiles for piece 2...sorry, no slots in your country. Oh, and you must d/l this ActiveX control too.
4. Tried Tuddley's site (alternate mirror)...umm, where's the files?
5. Tried UBRS (alternate mirror)...umm, where's the files?
6. Tried the tribute site (alternate mirror). Files are in a different format and around 400mb greater in size due to the less efficient compression method used. Plus the file size quoted is also different to the actual size of the files. Would I be getting a true copy/representation of the original mod? I didn't want to chance it.

At this point I gave up. It's all too hard. No WAC for me I'm afraid. :(

I didn't even get a chance to figure out how to open the 000, 001, 002 extension files...

As I said, FYI only...

[danurve]

Distribution of WAC has been a problem, a thorn to it's use. Simple as that. Unfortunate too damn it, because as the previous post shows this problem detours people from otherwise trying a great mod as an alternate for SH3 game play.

The tribute site, has the correct versions no one is getting short changed. The quoted size was intended to be just an estimate to make aware the aprox size of the download. But I think to change the wording to avoid possible confusion brought up.

Now, why the different file sizes?
Simply repackaged as two downloads instead of four. I know this increased the file size but I was actually just trying to simplify what to d/l. I belive what these contain was sufficiently explained but I welcome any suggestions.
Also these are not 7z files because it is a windows host. For some damn reason I could not link 7z files so I use rar or zip, (default compression) didn't think that would be an issue.

*pause; breather, coffee, quick glance at a picture of Miss Missouri 2004 (http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/shandi-finnessey/pictures/shandi-finnessey-picture-1.jpg) to regain composure*

Please if there's a question about the d/l's just ask I'll try to help.

edit to add; I had no idea the UBRS download files-page-links where changed or removed untill today.
So I removed the links from the mysh3.info pages for now.

[danurve]

Thanks goes out to hansolo78 for attention to Thalia resupply!
I may have harped on that a bit but for game play early war when no Biscay ports are open it's realy your only shot for extended patrols so to say.
For example the VIIB has no dual flak untill later, and much later I think early 42 you can get the secondary flak. So I thought hey lets fart around near the Med and maybe hang out untill other jazz is available. First extended patrol paid off as I got to sink lots of jazz, plus intercept a large convoy, in heavy seas rain btw, and turn it into a small convoy!

http://mysh3.info/danurve/4_15/12_187.jpg

http://mysh3.info/danurve/4_15/23_46.jpg

The update has lots of cookin jazz. Durring escape and evasion the open hatch mod was very cool. Fire & smoke affects, sounds, Slammin`
Be aware outside of Thalia is no easy ride, air patrols still kick your @ss. Mostly fighter-bombers and those large patrol bombers are accurate. With a single flak gun you might as well use tennis balls. Hit the gas and dive.
More to come I have no doubt:rock:

[Alex]

@ JS : I hope you'll have a try at it in a few days/weeks and will let us know what you think about WAC, cause it's really a great experience, IMHO. :cool:

:up: http://yelims1.free.fr/Banane/Banane37.gif

[HanSolo78]

Some of my pics taking part of OP Weserübung: Some Luftwaffe action

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/0OSHH.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/0OSHH.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/0P8UI.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/0P8UI.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/0PKKY.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/0PKKY.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/0PTAU.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/0PTAU.html)


@JS

I am sorry that it is complicated with downloads but I do my best!

@ all

Just recognized the frustrating thing with savegames bug and exiting the game.
I´ll try to extract the whole update and test several things...

[Alex]

Cool ! :up:
Glad you've found the bug. :yep:
Do you will upload a complete new update (2.16 ?), or just a little patch correcting this bug ? :hmm:

[HanSolo78]

Cool ! :up:
Glad you've found the bug. :yep:
Do you will upload a complete new update (2.16 ?), or just a little patch correcting this bug ? :hmm:

No.. you missunderstood...I didn t`find it!
BUT.. as I am ill a.t.m. I am just getting the idea... I just installed the ships and also got the error; so.. has to be some ship which causes this!!

[danurve]

Interesting, well if it is a buggy ship I hope it is not difficult to get it out. Best of luck on that!

HanSolo78 if you come up with something and need a tester just let me know. I will be on vacation-away the 1st. week of May though. And of course I'l be glad to upload any fix-patch to the mirror when you release it.

I hope to have help clear up confusion on the other WAC d/l page btw.

[Alex]

@ Hansolo : Ok, thanks ;), and sorry for the misunderstanding.
Take care !

[HanSolo78]

Ok guys.. so.. here could be th solution for CTD!
Copy the files Water burst 1.wav and Water Burst 2.wav from WAC 2.0 to the direcory of SH3 and overwrite he files from 2.15!

[danurve]

Ok guys.. so.. here could be th solution for CTD!
Copy the files Water burst 1.wav and Water Burst 2.wav from WAC 2.0 to the direcory of SH3 and overwrite he files from 2.15!

Sweet!! This fix would appear to work!
I tested this so far on two different careers and multiple saves and reloads. No CTD, Good deal!

:()1: http://home.rochester.rr.com/jendsley/dancinggirl.gif:()1:

Hans I would like to copy this fix-instructions up to mysh3.info/WAC if that's cool. Unless you think we should wait a bit & give this fix more testing. I used the two files from the JSGME MODS 2.0 folder. Perhaps I should mention that as well.
Thanx again Man!

[HanSolo78]

Would be great, if some people could report if this possible fix also works at their installation...

[Alex]

Just a minute.... http://yelims1.free.fr/Banane/Banane37.gif
Yes, it works for mine too. :smug:

Thank you very much ! :up:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I tried to use WAC but every time I went to close the game and I got a message saying that there was a problem. Can anyone help me and is this compatable with SH3 Commander?

[danurve]

Yes it is absolutly compatable.
You are talking about the CTD windows error from 2.15 it was a problem with two sound files.
HanSolo78Ok guys.. so.. here could be th solution for CTD!
Copy the files Water burst 1.wav and Water Burst 2.wav from WAC 2.0 to the direcory of SH3 and overwrite he files from 2.15!
That should fix you up.
If you need those files let me know but you should have them from 2.0 full as 2.15 is an update. Hope that helps!

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Alright I'll try it and let you guys know what happens.

[HanSolo78]

So.. maybe I´ll upload a hotfix tonight...

meanwhile I am working on a manual... especially helpfull for newcomers:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2734/manualaa2.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manualaa2.jpg)

[Alex]

Looks nice ! ;)
Just an advice : maybe you could have a colour for german and english language separately.... It just would be easier to see what to read. :yep:

:rock:

[HanSolo78]

Looks nice ! ;)
Just an advice : maybe you could have a colour for german and english language separately.... It just would be easier to see what to read. :yep:

:rock:

Good idea! :)

BTW. Possible Hotfix: http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=66COKKZJ

[Tuddley3]

I am currently uploading WAC 2.0 Light as I type this, then I will follow up maybe tomorrow and upload WAC 2.0 Full & WAC 2.15 Light also. I am aware as I mentioned on the last page in this thread my Downloads are missing, FileFront somehow decided to delete them, and I didn't go to FileFront for a while, so I did not catch their notice of deletion(Which can be stopped). I will now upload them in a Directory this time, so they are more manageable.

I must add, I am getting very happy with WAC since December came along, as it just keeps getting better and better. If it wasn't for Hansolo and his contribution to our community, I would have uninstalled SH3 long ago. Thanks Hans, and I must also thank everyone else who has become a WAC user in the last few months, such as Danurve with his help.

I also would like to welcome JScones to our neck of the woods, nice to have ya.

Update:
I tried to get them all done before I went to bed, but I ran out of time. I have Part 1 of 4 uploaded(2.0 Light), I just have the Terrain Packers and the 2.0 Full Sound folder left to do. By the end of the weekend, I hope to have all Versions uploaded.

[danurve]

Uploaded the 2.15 HotFix to mysh3.info/sh3downloads.html for mirror.

Hansolo78 thank you for making that an rar file that way I did not have to repack it. The manual is a good idea btw. :up:
Tuddly3 when you have a minute could you check to see if that blacksky fix file is on your file page please? I completely agree btw, WAC is a great mod Im glad to help when I can.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Well I managed to get WAC instaled but when I was unpacking the the RAR file that had the sound and extras in it I got a message that said that one of the OGG files was corrupted, and this was in Speech_ En, File 8, Ogg file ChE_P_ We're taking damage. Any ideas on how to fix the problem ?

[danurve]

K. HN; That's odd, never heard about that before.

By "File 8" Im guessing this means in the 8th folder since there are 9 actual folders.
Try this, since folders 1-9 have the same files for the most part, just take the same file form one of the other speach_en folders and overwrite - copy it into folder 8.

[Tuddley3]

Here you go my friend :
Fix Black Sky (http://files.filefront.com/FixBlackSkyzip/;6405480;/fileinfo.html)

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

K. HN; That's odd, never heard about that before.

By "File 8" Im guessing this means in the 8th folder since there are 9 actual folders.
Try this, since folders 1-9 have the same files for the most part, just take the same file form one of the other speach_en folders and overwrite - copy it into folder 8.Well I think thats why I was getting that error message when I quit the game. But I tested the game this morning and didn't have a problem and, yes I did mean the 8th file in the English speech folder.

[Tuddley3]

I noticed 1 download so far, you can get the rest now. I will work on 2.0 Full, then 2.15 Light and Full. I added the WAC Directory link to my Sig.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I've got another question to ask you guys, since I'm new to this mod I don't know alot about it,but my question is that during the occupation of Norway by the Germans are you assinged to patrol off the coast of Norway. And what about the evacuation of Dunkirk and the D-Day invaions will you be assinged to any area around there?

[HanSolo78]

I've got another question to ask you guys, since I'm new to this mod I don't know alot about it,but my question is that during the occupation of Norway by the Germans are you assinged to patrol off the coast of Norway. And what about the evacuation of Dunkirk and the D-Day invaions will you be assinged to any area around there?

Actually you´ll get a radio message to get informed of such major events!
BUT.. a.t.m most of the radio traffic is only available if you play with german language (german u-boat) ;)
In the next version this coul be more detailed in english.
I ´ve to think about it but that would be very time consuming and last every long until I have to do this all on my own!

[danurve]

Hans; I have an idea or question realy.

Next to the Thalia resupply there is the Cadiz harbour.
There is always a British transport ship there. I don't know if that is historicly correct or not, but it complicates u-boat travel in and out of the harbour area. Is there a way to edit out that ship just from Cadiz, or maybe change it to Neutral?

Thanx!

BTW WAC users; patrols from Thalia ROCK!

CAPTAIN'S LOG
Date and Time
Grid
Occurrences
01 Mar 19401210Patrol 9
U-47, 1st Flotilla
Left at: March 1, 1940, 12:10
From: Thalia
07 Mar 1940
0457CG 94Ship sunk! Pyro Ammunition Freighter, 7371 tons
2343CG 86Ship sunk! Large Cargo, 7519 tons
08 Mar 1940
0116CG 86Ship sunk! Small Merchant, 2949 tons
12 Mar 1940
1131BE 65Ship sunk! T2-Tanker (empty), 8285 tons
1133BE 65Ship sunk! T2-Tanker (empty), 8284 tons
1140BE 65Ship sunk! C2 Cargo, 4363 tons
13 Mar 1940
0734BE 35Ship sunk! Empire Celt Tanker, 8648 tons
0735BE 35Ship sunk! T3 Tanker, 10748 tons
17 Mar 1940
1617CG 81Ship sunk! Large Cargo, 7559 tons
19 Mar 1940
0315Patrol results
Crew losses: 0
Ships sunk: 9
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonage: 65726 tons

[HanSolo78]

@danurve

nice patrol log ;)
Maybe I should have a look at Thalia harbour and Cadiz, also I have to check dates, etc.

about your log...

did you encounter a convoy or only single ship contacts?
that T3 in your log... is it a T3 or empty T3? because a full T3 should have much more tons!

btw: nice support from your side of WAC :)

[danurve]

Hey hans:

The empty tankers were in a small convoy lightly escorted WSW.
The T3 was just behind the Celt tanker in a larger convoy heading NE I think.

I lightened up this screen a bit of the T3 hit, granted it's not the best screen I've done but I think it does show the ship how a normal T3 would be in the water.
I used a T1 running 6.5 with magnetic pistol, the shot seemed to break her back but you can see the second shot trail!

http://mysh3.info/danurve/4_23/17_62.jpg

Edit: here's a screen of the Celt getting hit just before in the same convoy.
http://mysh3.info/danurve/4_23/55_62.jpg
they were "up front" but i still managed to sneek the shots in front of and behind the smaller merchants in the colume to the right :)

[prowler3]

1. How do I revert to the "original" keyboard behavior ("ENTER"= fire torpedo..."BACKSPACE"= pause game)? I'm wasting way too many torpedoes due to incorrect keystrokes as I've learned these keystrokes for almost a year?!

2. Is there a way to make SH3Commander recognize the earlier start of the war in WAC? That way I could use SH3Commander to "pre setup" my first mission. As it is I must run my first WAC career patrol without SH3Commander...THEN I can use SH3C.

3. What is the latest "WAC SH3 events" document? I don't see an "Invasion of Narvik", or many others, in my current "SH3 events" document. I was under the impression that most of the "major" events were added to career patrols (at least as far as being able to change your patrol grid so that you were "in the action")?

4. If I decide to keep my original "Scene.dat", will that hurt any part of WAC? Until someone comes up with a "Depth mapping tool" (SH2 would show you depth in the map, wherever your cursor was, and you could then mark "no go" contours) I need to "see" the edge of my PD limit. Lacking real depth charts in SH3, I might need to find a "coast hugging" course without advertising my position with constant "depth beneath the keel" pings. The only way I see to do this with SH3, at present, is a clear view of the bottom. Not realistic, by any means...but I didn't make the stupid changes to SH3 from what worked well in SH2!

Please realize that I DID do a search...but it's a useless tool with this big of a thread.
These probably won't be the LAST questions...but you must start somewhere?

Thanks for any help!

Vic

[ridgewayranger]

Hi,
Where can I get War Ace hotfix 2.15, I'm still on 1.92. Must have missed some I guess!
RR

[Tuddley3]

I finally got around to it, but here is WAC 2.15 Light at my FileFront account.

WAC 2.15 Light Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Lightzip/;7455784;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.15 Light Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Light_Part_2zip/;7455850;/fileinfo.html)

[prowler3]

Is there a way to add the realistic crush depth changes to a WAC install? I can make the necessary changes to the subs with "SH3CrushDepthV2_build12.zip" but I cannot use the "DepthGaugeMoD14.exe" to change the depth gauges to 400 meters, I'm assuming, because WAC uses those nice "slide-out" gauges?

I'm thinking what I need is a 400 meter replacement for the WAC depth gauge? All subs use the same depth gauge...correct?

Thanks!

Vic

[HanSolo78]

@prowler

welcome! :up:

1. use the backup of JSME and search the backupfile of "Commands_en.cfg"
maybe the file is renamed by JSME but you can recognize it.
simply rename it to "Commands_en.cfg" and copy to data/cfg/ !!!

2. you should ask the developer of SH3 Commander. I´dont know.

3. in latest event ducuments invasion of norway is listed but without giving details of single invasions like narvik. a new manula with detailed historical backgrund information is in the works!

4. changing the scene.dat could lead to sky problem errors. 1,5x waves and 16KM atmosphere are deleted if you change it.

5. all subs use the same depth gauge!

[prowler3]

Thanks, HanSolo, for the reply...and a great MOD!

I would like to use TimeTravellers Crush Depth mod with the WAC supermod. The problem is changing the actual Deep Depth guage to allow a 300 m + dive. The gauge mod from Captain America doesn't change the nice "slide out" gauge you put in WAC...probably because his mod is designed for a default SH3 install.

My question is...what do I need to change (Texture, cfg, etc.) to keep the WAC slide-out controls but have a 400m depth gauge like we have in the XXI? What texture is the slide out Deep Depth gauge?

Thank you.

[HanSolo78]

Thanks, HanSolo, for the reply...and a great MOD!

I would like to use TimeTravellers Crush Depth mod with the WAC supermod. The problem is changing the actual Deep Depth guage to allow a 300 m + dive. The gauge mod from Captain America doesn't change the nice "slide out" gauge you put in WAC...probably because his mod is designed for a default SH3 install.

My question is...what do I need to change (Texture, cfg, etc.) to keep the WAC slide-out controls but have a 400m depth gauge like we have in the XXI? What texture is the slide out Deep Depth gauge?

Thank you.

The texture is in "data/menu/Gui/Layout/" and named "Anzeige260.tga"!

[terrapin]

Both the light (http://picturehost.realsimulation.com/UBRS_DLC/file.php?id=1486) and full (http://picturehost.realsimulation.com/UBRS_DLC/file.php?id=1489)versions of War Ace Campaign 2.15 are now available from UBRS DLC aswell.

[HanSolo78]

Both the light (http://picturehost.realsimulation.com/UBRS_DLC/file.php?id=1486) and full (http://picturehost.realsimulation.com/UBRS_DLC/file.php?id=1489)versions of War Ace Campaign 2.15 are now available from UBRS DLC aswell.

Thx!

[haegemon]

I love the interface of this mod. It's awesome.

[HanSolo78]

I love the interface of this mod. It's awesome.

Just integrated and not created by me ;)
but.. I love it too :yep:

[haegemon]

By the way, I learnt about the open hatch in some u-boats. So what happens if your sonar compartment gets flooded? :lol:

Also I would know if the mod is compatible with "SH commander", and/or if there's an option to show diferent paints and marks through the years.

[prowler3]

HanSolo...without, I hope, insulting you, there are a few things I would like to alter in the 2.15 WAC, for my personal use, and I can't figure out how on my own.

1. After giving the "slide-out" controls a good try, I've come to the conclusion that I prefer the SH3 defaults...how can I get back to them?

2. I know that "target locking" never existed, in RW, using the periscope or UZO. However, WAC has made it harder to "lock" a target (with the periscope only, AFAICT) and this has a nasty side affect...due to SH3 tying the "lock" to the map display. Targets you can plainly see in the 'scope will NOT show up on the map. They will continue to not show up until you can "lock" them. This is some more SH3 stupidity and I realize it's none of your doing. BUT...

I would like to be able to have plainly visible vessels show up on my map...regardless of the ability to "lock" them...how do I go back to the SH3 defaults?

3. I would like to go back to the SH3 default "water density", for underwater viewing, and the 8 km. "view area", for my slower computer. You mentioned that replacing the "Scene.dat" file with the SH3 original may cause a black sky. That is exactly what happened. Is there a way to get back to the original SH3 water densities and view areas...without this "black sky"?

I hope you realize that I'm happy, overall, with this "Supermod". There are just certain things which do not work for me and I would like to change them, if I can.

Vic

[cunnutazzo]

I tried to use SH3Commander with WAC, it seems work good.

[JScones]

SH3 Commander is 100% compatible with WAC "out of the box". The only limitation is that you can't use SH3Cmdr to start careers in August 1939 (and this is only because doing so will make SH3Cmdr incompatible with stock SH3 and other mods that don't support August 1939 start dates - catch 22).

[cunnutazzo]

The Revenge Battleship was sunk yesterday (by me), then a great battle in the Med between the Royal Fleet and the Luftwaffe. For the first time I have seen a FW190 in Sh3 :o

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1387/shot1179260212ps2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[danurve]

Did you get a screen of the kill?
It looks as if the Luftwaffe isn't having a good day in that one :arrgh!:
The battle action when your into it in WAC is quite cool though :up:

[cunnutazzo]

unfortunately no screen of the Revenge's kill, but 28.000 were added on my SH3Commander nav book:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1350/logkz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[cunnutazzo]

Here is a S79 "Sparviero" flying on La Spezia, really cool. In general the textures are very accurate and the stormy Med is awesome. Also the Med Campaign is very attractive. WAC is definitely my preferred supermod. Sorry for showing planes only, but I'm a vintage planes fan.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1918/shot1179355942nb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[HanSolo78]

Nice screens :up:

@prowler

1.
To get back SH3 default In-Game Menu you have to rename the file "Kopie von menu_1024_768.ini" to menu_1024_768.ini
The file is in "data/menu"!
Unfortunately there exitsts a negative side effect when using the default menu.
While loading the campiagn or mission there appears an error sound after loading and you get a black screen. Then you have to click enter or mouse and the game starts!

2.
I don´t find the responsible file a.t.m.
I´ll have a look for!

3.
To get only 8Km atmosphere use the scene.dat file of the light version
To get default underwater visibility change EnvColors_Atl.dat in "data/env"!
Also you could use these files backuped from JSME!
You only have to rename the backuped files to their original ones!

greetings
Han

[prowler3]

1.
To get back SH3 default In-Game Menu you have to rename the file "Kopie von menu_1024_768.ini" to menu_1024_768.ini
The file is in "data/menu"!
Unfortunately there exitsts a negative side effect when using the default menu.
While loading the campiagn or mission there appears an error sound after loading and you get a black screen. Then you have to click enter or mouse and the game starts!

I decided to leave that one alone...I will learn to use the slide outs.

2.
I don´t find the responsible file a.t.m.
I´ll have a look for!
Let me know if you find it...I'm looking also.

3.
To get only 8Km atmosphere use the scene.dat file of the light version
To get default underwater visibility change EnvColors_Atl.dat in "data/env"!
Also you could use these files backuped from JSME!
You only have to rename the backuped files to their original ones!

Yep, did that and it's back to 8 km on my old machine!

Hey, HanSolo...thank you. I thought that you might have been pissed with my requests... but you were not and were very helpful!

I just wish we could ALL know where to make SH3 "adjustements"...??? Why it seems to be restricted to the "modders" is beyond me...we can ALL be modders given the correct info??

BUT, hey...I'm pretty happy with it now. I WOULD like to know how to adjust weapon loading times and the silly "target lock". Why I need a "target lock" for a plainly viewable ship to show up on the map is beyond me!!!

I'm WACing it now, HanSolo...I still have questions but it's the best SH3 has ever been!

greetings
Han[/quote]

[Stuntman]

Hi everybody!

I have a question for HanSolo78.

I have installed WAC 2.0, 2.15 and 2.15 hotfix on my sh3, through JSGME . I have also installed GWX.

When I try to start sh3 in career, the game freezes/CTD when it is 10% left to load. I want to know why this happends. Is it because WAC and GWX cant work together? Or is it something else?

Therfore I wonder if it is possible to run GWX and WAC together? and if it can, why does the game crash? And if SH3 crash because WAC and GWX cant work together, do I have to have one SH3 for GWX, and one for WAC?

Every help will be very appriciaited!

Thanks
Stuntman

[cunnutazzo]

Hello Stuntman you need of a clean sh3 installation, no gwx or other supermods.

[cunnutazzo]

The Duke of York is gone! :smug:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3601/shot1179613454qs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7112/shot1179613637pr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Stuntman]

Thank you very much, cunnatazzo! Now I know that I have to reinstall sh3, thanks.

Nice that I got so fast reply, since I have been waiting for 3 days on this answer (tried other forums and such) and the only place I got the answer is here, so thank you for your fast reply!

One more question though. Since WAC must run alone, and I have GWX on my sh3, and I still want to play both: Should I have one SH3 for GWX and one for WAC?

Thanks a lot again, cunnatazzo! I'm looking very forward to try WAC!!!:up:

BTW: A very nice shot there, cunnatazzo! GOOD WORK!;)

Best Regards
Stuntman

[A6Intruder]

One more question though. Since WAC must run alone, and I have GWX on my sh3, and I still want to play both: Should I have one SH3 for GWX and one for WAC?


Best Regards
Stuntman[/quote]

Yes that is right, you have to have one SH3 for each supermodand if you are not an Hardcore-Kaleun you will love WAC.
Kind regards from Germany:up:

[Stuntman]

Well, actually, I'm not a hardcore-player, but I still like realism.

Hmm...that just gave me a new question. And if you all get anoyed by all my questions and dont want me to ask so much, just tell me and I wil shut up!;)

Ok the new question is maybe hard to answer, maybe because all people have different meanings...

Anyway: What is really the difference between GWX and WAC? I know theres maybe a lot, and its hard to tell it without being complicated, but say at least the main differences and such. I would be really glad for that, since I'm wondering if GWX is so good that its worth having one SH3 for GWX and another SH3 just for WAC;)

Thanks again for all the answers! You are really helping me a lot, cunnutazzo and A6Intruder!

Best Regards
Stuntman

[cunnutazzo]

I like GWX, but it is very boring for me and it is not so much "hardcore" in my opinion: every GWX patrol has a lot of convoys that you can individuate very easily. The GWX AI is good, but not the realism of the campaign. The people like to see battleships, airplanes, battles on the sea and in the sky: with WAC you can get this, and not to stay alone in the ocean fronting the convoy "as usual".
But the WAC Ai is not so easy!
Also if you install GWX you are not allowed to alternate other supermods, now I have NYGM and WAC in my SH3 mod folder and I can play different campaigns following several flavours.

[Stuntman]

OK, Thank you very much, cunnutazzo!

I'm now convinced that WAC fits me much better than GWX! :D

Like you said, in GWX you are too much alone. Not very much happening in GWX, except for convoys ;)
And Since you said that WAC has a lot more events, action, battles etc. Which suits me much more then being a lone wolf all the time, I wil defiently play WAC as my favourite mod!:up:

So thanks again for helping me!:D WAC here I come!:lurk:

[danurve]

FYI there's a program called SH3multi out there designed to let you have more then one install. I don't use that app but you could ask about it in the General forum Im sure someone familiar with it would tell you more about it.
Having said that I never realy found it that big of a deal to uninstall all the jazz and to a fresh install to try another mod. Also I prefer WAC, btw those bomber patrol aircraft - forget about it. Hit the throttle and Dive! They will blast your jazz.

[Stuntman]

Thanks, danurve! I got the tip and will be aware of bombers;)

I have installed WAC and for the time being, it works well!!!:D

One question: Is NYGM icluded in WAC? IF not, can NYGM still run with WAC?

I just wonder if it is possible to have NYGM with WAC, since I loved how ships sinks in NYGM, instead of having the old sh3 sinking thing which sucks for me:nope:


Thanks
Stuntman

[R1fl3M4n]

WaC rulz :> very good mod :):smug:

[danurve]

Stuntman; I think you would be asking for ctd, headaches, & problems trying to get both megamods to run together.
I don't remember the sinking difference since nygm 2.0, I do remember the renown change and just about every boat sunk by mines! Negative or positive boyancy is BS if you ask me.

[down and out]

How can you say positive and negative bouyancy is BS ?
Uboats suffered from both and trim keeping was one if not THE hardest thing to do on a uboat

Is that your view as WAC has neither ? And NYGM and GWX have both negative and positive respectively

Now thats BS

[Cheapskate]

You are obviously correct in saying that submarines are capable of both negative and positive buoyancy.... otherwise they would not be able to dive or surface respectively.

However, it is unrealistic to have one mod model only positive and the other only negative, although it seems this is dictated by shortcomings in the SH3 engine.

Whether or not you find WAC's approach of neutral buoyancy acceptable would I suppose, depend on how you play the game.

If you also want to act the part of the Chief Engineer and constantly supervise the depth keeping and order changes when necessary you may find the NYGM or GWX approach better.

On the other hand, if you play as the skipper, and expect an ordered depth to be maintained without further personal intervention, you will find WAC's solution much less of a PITA. I know I do :D

[R1fl3M4n]

i reinstalled' sh3 for WaC and when i'm ingame the sky has no texture its just black ...anyone else got this ? :|

[danurve]

R1fl3M4n: http://mysh3.info/files/Fix.zip

This is the BlackSky fix.
Don't ask me why that happens as I have not seen that happen.
Same file is on Tuddly3's files front site and han's d/l.

[R1fl3M4n]

10x mate' :up:

[danurve]

How can you say positive and negative bouyancy is BS ?
Uboats suffered from both and trim keeping was one if not THE hardest thing to do on a uboat

Is that your view as WAC has neither ? And NYGM and GWX have both negative and positive respectively

Now thats BS

I can say it because there is enough mircomanagment in the game. Indeed the real boats had all types of issues including trim. This is a game. When I order to maintain the boat depth I expect that to hold. But now, I have to make edit upon edit OR my boat's conning tower gets detected because the boat refuses to hold periscope depth. OR while at 1-2 knots running deep the boat continues to dive slowly, OR while I "order" to maintain depth the boat takes on a slow rise instead. I can say that because I remember the boyancy issue in nygm and an earlier version of gwx. I can say it because I have also experienced boyancy issues in the current version of WAC. A problem I must say I am not to happy about. Not at all.
So now I have to fight with edit upon edit to try and get things back to how I want to play the game. Because apparently back down the road it was decided that neutral boyancy is just not friggin good enough, so lets make it near impossible to hold trim for everyone. How friggin convenient.

[Urdhuk]

@danurve:

After reading this thread, I became more and more interested in this mod and finally decided to give it a try.

Unluckily, when I extracted the second part of the download, twice I received the following message:" CRC failed in Sound\Speech_En\8\ChE_K_We´re_taking_damage_sir.og g . The file is corrupt".

Since I could not find the file in the decompressed folders, I would like to know if I could go on with the installation or if you provide me a clean copy of the file.

Also, I could not download the hotfix for v 2.15.

Thanks in advance

[cunnutazzo]

I got the same CRC file corruption, but WAC seems to work without problems.

[Urdhuk]

@Cunnutazzo:

It seems that both of us downloaded it from the same site. May be you are right. If the corrupted file does not apper, the original one will remain in place. Sadly, the "we´re taking damage, sir" is a file that appears lots of times during the game (mostly in later war years).

Anyway, how did you proceed with the unpackers that came in the second part of the download? I am a little confussed and I do not want to screw it up.

Thanks for your help

[prowler3]

I have 92% hull integrity due to my failure to dodge a few bombers. Now, for some reason, with this 92% I can't stay at periscope depth while at 1/3 or stop? This seems to be overkill, to me? I can't believe that pumps, which are undamaged, would not allow me to maintain periscope depth even with 92% integrity??

Perhaps someone who knows better can elaborate?

[Von Manteuffel]

I've downloaded WAC ( full version ) in the three parts:

WarAceCampaign 2.0 FULL.7z.001
WarAceCampaign 2.0 FULL.7z.002
and WarAceCampaign 2.0 FULL.7z.003

but I can't find how to extract the files. 7zFM refuses to recognise them as fa format which it can handle. what do I need to do, please?

[Stuntman]

Hi there, Von Manteuffel.

Download 7-zip from this site: http://www.7-zip.org/

Then when you have installed it, right-click the first WAC file (the .001 file), chose 7-zip and press extract here OR you may extract it in the MODS folder.

The 7-zip program wil automaticly extract all three WAC 2.0 files into one WAC 2.0 folder, which you just put in the MODS folder in SH3 if you haven't extracted to the folder directly.

After the folder has been created and placed in the MODS folder, use the JSGME mod enabler to enable it in SH3.

If you don't have JSGME mod enabler, get it from here: http://www.beerymod.com/jsgme.zip

Hope this helps :)

Thanks
Stuntman

[Von Manteuffel]

Thanks, Stuntman, but still no go.

The three files I downloaded are:

WarAceCampaign 2.0 FULL.7z.001

WarAceCampaign_2.0_FULL.7z.002

WarAceCampaign_2.0_FULL.7z.003

002 & 003 ( with the underlined spaces ) are not recognised as a valid format by 7-Zip ( which I have freshly downloaded and re-installed)

The 001 file will extract, but all I get is a single file, exactly the same size as the 001 file called:

WarAceCampaign 2.0 FULL.7z which 7-zip will not recognise as a valid format

:damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::d amn::damn::damn::damn:

Any ideas?......................Hang on! I'm being a bit of an idiot. I downloaded the 001 file from one source and the other two from the mirrors. The 001 file from the mirror has the underlined spaces like the 002 and 003. I'll d/l the first file from the mirror and try that! It could be that I need all three files from the same source???

[danurve]

prowler; I have experienced similar issues. Hopefully hans will iron that out. I have also had to edit the sub config to counter positive boyancy while at periscope depth. Not to happy about that deal either.

Von Manteuffel; I am sorry to hear about your file extraction problems. What would happen if you knocked off the .00* extensions?

[Stuntman]

I'm not any expert at this, Von Manteuffel, but When I tried to innstal it, it didnt work because .001 came from different sources then .002 and .003

I strongly suggest that you download all the three WAC files from the same source...

that would might help, at least it helped for me:)

Thanks
Stuntman

[Von Manteuffel]

Success! At last! Thanks for all your help. Could I suggest that an advisory note about needing to download all three parts from the same source is added to the download page(s). Just one more question - Is there a WAC manual available anywhere, please?

[HanSolo78]

Success! At last! Thanks for all your help. Could I suggest that an advisory note about needing to download all three parts from the same source is added to the download page(s). Just one more question - Is there a WAC manual available anywhere, please?

That not is a good idea! I made this suggestion up to danurve too!

I am sorry to say that a manual is currently in the works... but cause of real life business all got a full stop.
An update might only possible in summer...

[Von Manteuffel]

This is an awesome mod! You are to be hugely congratulated HanSolo78.

Could I please ask how to improve resolution ( I'm running on a Dell Inspiron XPS M1710; Windows Vista Home Premium; Intel Core2 T7600 CPU @ 2.33 GHz; 2 Gig of RAM; NVidia GeForce Go 7950 GTX graphics card (512 Mb). and the screen will run up to 1900 x 1200)

I know the two d3d9 files have something to do with it, but I'm not sure how to use them.

Also, How do I use the terrain modifications, please? I know I have to run the unpacker files, but where do I put the files?

[Cheapskate]

This is an awesome mod! You are to be hugely congratulated HanSolo78.
Also, How do I use the terrain modifications, please? I know I have to run the unpacker files, but where do I put the files?

You don't have to put the files anywhere. As you run each of the unpackers in turn they will auto install to the file you have pointed them to ( data/Terrain/Data )

Danurve has illustrated this very nicely in his post http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=87436&page=29

Hope this clears things up for you :D

[HanSolo78]

@von Manteufel

thx!
I do my best to offer an alternate way in wac.
to change resolution just open the d3d.cfg file with an editor and change the lines: "resx" and "resy" rexx means witdh and resy means height!


EDIT: just recognized.. you´ve got vista... vista is bad for playing SH3! The resolution fix does not work with Windows Vista! I´m sorry!!

[Von Manteuffel]

@ hanSolo78

No need to apologise. The shortcomings of Windows Vista can't be laid at your door. As a point of interest, I suffered the "failure" when ending a WAC session and changed the two sound files as suggested. The game would not even start!

I reverted to full 2.15 because I was quite happy with the slight inconvenience of the fault, BUT when I started to use SH3 Commander with WAC, the problem disappeared. This may be a Vista thing, but it seems that, for me, SH3 Commander cures the problem.

Thanks once again for an incredible mod. I started with SH3 and graduated to GWX. I've only just started with NYGM and WAC, so I'm not in a position to do an objective comparison, but from what I've seen so far, WAC is way ahead of the rest. For me it combines the required amount of realism with stunning gameplay. I'm in awe that you seem to have done it alone. The others had extensive teams working on them.

Ave Hansolo78.

[Stuntman]

No problem helping you with the innstall, Von Manteuffel!:up:

Hope everything works fine for you from now on, and good hunting!:lurk:

[prowler3]

Has anyone figured out what, in WAC, changed my ability to "lock" targets in periscope? The UZO is not affected and can still "LOCK" targets at very far range. I say WAC as I don't remember targets being so difficult to lock in periscope view in a straight SH3 installation?

I don't like the "LOCK" at all...but it's the only way to get targets, which are plainly visable, to show up on my chart. If they won't "LOCK", they won't stay on the chart (map)...no matter how well I can see them in the periscope.

The perfect answer would be to "unhook" the lock from the target showing up on the map (chart). If I can see it using any sight based device (eyes, binoculars, UZO or periscope) then it should show up on my map. This is how I believe it would have REALLY worked? I'm not sure which officer would be responsible (NO,WO) but someone would have been recording bearing and range information to a visable target on a chart, I would assume.

I realize this is a fundamental flaw in SH3...but WAC just makes it worse by making the target lock more difficult (no offense, Hans! It's not your fault!). I would like to suggest something, however. Make the target locking ability even easier...if I can see it I can lock it! Those of us who believe in reality will ignore the target lock...BUT...the visable targets will show up on our maps, as they should.

What do the rest of you think?

[Stuntman]

Yeah, I also have problems locking the ragets, even though they are clearly visble in the UZO, Periscope, binoculars etc.

So I would agree to prowler3's suggestion to make the locking as easy as possible, making it possible to lock it whenever you can see it and then stay locked and the ship gets plotted on map...instead of continuesly locking it because it wont be locked by itself:damn: (No offense, Hans! Its not yor fault, its the SH3 itself)

So I think its a great idea!:up:

[Tuddley3]

I'm not any expert at this, Von Manteuffel, but When I tried to innstal it, it didnt work because .001 came from different sources then .002 and .003

I strongly suggest that you download all the three WAC files from the same source...

that would might help, at least it helped for me:)

Thanks
Stuntman

Yes this is true. If you download them from different sources, from say 2 differend uploaders, you may be missing files.

I am uploading WAC 2.0 Light right now, I will upload WAC 2.0 Full next. They will be in WinRaR zip format for those who have problems with 7z.

[kevtherev]

I finally got around to it, but here is WAC 2.15 Light at my FileFront account.

WAC 2.15 Light Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Lightzip/;7455784;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.15 Light Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Light_Part_2zip/;7455850;/fileinfo.html)

I have installed WarAceCampaign V2.0 together with 'BlackSkyFix' through JSGME. I have also installed the Helgoland and KW canal files as instructed in the 'read me'. Is there any advantage in downloading the WarAceCampaign V2.15 Light, if so can I use JSGME and simply install this version over V2.0 or must I first of all uninstall the V2.0 :-?
Have just had a look at the 'new' website and I think that with all the improvements I will try 2.15. Question still stands for overinstalling !

[Stuntman]

Yeah, I also have a similar question: Which Mod should I chose?

the LIGHT or the FULL?

Why I ask this is because My pc is just over the FULL recomendations at Hans' site....and wonder if its best to chose the LIGHT...because I dont care about graphic updates...I want the "stuff" If you now what I mean:cool:

So does LIGHT also have every event and historical things and such included?

Also the full version lags a bit too...

So whats the main difference? and does the light have all the campign thingys included?

Thanks
Stuntman

[HanSolo78]

Version 2.15 should be installed over 2.0!
2.0 is a must have for 2.15 but you have to choose the apropriate version!
light 2.0 can only update to light 2.15 for example!

the light version only has minor harbour traffic, 8Km atmosphere and fewer graphical changes. events are the same!

btw. next version... might be a 3.0 full... will contain over 40 events (now 20), detailed manual for events, etc. we´ll see ;)

But a long way to go....

[kevtherev]

I finally got around to it, but here is WAC 2.15 Light at my FileFront account.

WAC 2.15 Light Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Lightzip/;7455784;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.15 Light Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Light_Part_2zip/;7455850;/fileinfo.html)

I have installed WarAceCampaign V2.0 together with 'BlackSkyFix' through JSGME. I have also installed the Helgoland and KW canal files as instructed in the 'read me'. Is there any advantage in downloading the WarAceCampaign V2.15 Light, if so can I use JSGME and simply install this version over V2.0 or must I first of all uninstall the V2.0 :-?
Have just had a look at the 'new' website and I think that with all the improvements I will try 2.15. Question still stands for overinstalling !

O/K, have downloaded and installed 2.15 as per. 'read me'. Before I enabled it with JSGME I 'rolled back', as suggested, all mods except WAC2.0. There was only one mod, that was the 'black sky fix' which I did not reinstall after enabling 2.15. Guess what, ran 2.15 and the sky was black. Could not this problem with the sky not have been sorted for WAC2.15. It seems a great shame that little things crop up which spoilat least at the outset, what I do believe is a wonderfull mod. Will re-enable the sky fix tomorrow and have another go. BTW, thanks a million for a super mod !!

[HanSolo78]

The black sky issue does not occur always to every user!
It is a system config problem.
So.. one has to solve it yourself! :ping:

[kevtherev]

The black sky issue does not occur always to every user!
It is a system config problem.
So.. one has to solve it yourself! :ping:

O/K Hans, thanks for the prompt reply, BTW, should you need assistance in producing a manual for your mod (English), please PM me. I was for 15 years, before my retirement, a technical author responsible for Maintenance, Trouble Shooting and Description manuals at Airbus Germany so I could possibly be of help, should you indeed need any. Sorry but I can only help in English. Anyway, PM me if you think I can contribute.

[danurve]

I have started a page in the community manual for WAC here:
http://www.mysh3.info/shiii/index.php/War_Ace_Campaign

It needs some work. Looking for a few dedicated WAC players to help out.
Interested? You will need an account to log on, and be familiar with wiki mark-up.

[Tuddley3]

I have completed my spring cleaning of my FileFront page. I need to start paying more attention to it so my WAC uploads stop getting deleted. I now have everything exept WAC 2.15 Full. These are all in WinRaR zip format. Just download each category(WAC 2.0 Light Parts 1-3, WAC 2.0 Light Terrain Repackers, WAC 2.0 Full Sounf Files) and extract them into 1 folder and name it WAC 2.0 Light and place it in JSGME. Then download and exract WAC 2.15 Light Parts 1 & 2 into its own folder and name it WAC 2.15 Light and place it in JSGME also. Enable 2.0 first, then 2.15 after.

WAC 2.0 Light Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Light_Part_1zip/;7655169;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.0 Light Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Light_Part_2zip/;7655170;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.0 Light Part 3 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Light_Part_3zip/;7655171;/fileinfo.html)

For adding such things as Kiel and Suez Canal's , and reworked /updated Helgoland, Wilhelmshaven, Kaiser, Scapa, you'll need these terrain repackers.
WAC 2.0 Light Terrain Repackers (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Light_Terrain_Pacszip/;7295590;/fileinfo.html)

I also recommend using the WAC 2.0 FULL sound folder for WAC 2.0 LIGHT, I love it. Das Boot crew voices adds much to the submersion.
WAC 2.0 Full Sound Files (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Full_Soundzip/;7655166;/fileinfo.html)

I suggest upgrading to WAC 2.15 Light, after installing WAC 2.0 Light into JSGME and the WAC 2.0 Full sound files, just download and install these next downloads ON TOP of WAC 2.0 Light(Won't work without 2.0 Light)
WAC 2.15 Light Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Lightzip/;7455784;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.15 Light Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_215_Light_Part_2zip/;7455850;/fileinfo.html)

For those who have strong computers, I also have WAC 2.0 Full version. Do not have WAC 2.0 Light enabled in JSGME, they are separate mods, but of course download the 2.0 Full sound files.
WAC 2.0 Full Part 1 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Full_Part_1_of__4zip/;7670066;/fileinfo.html) WAC 2.0 Full Part 2 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Full_Part_2_of__4zip/;7670069;/fileinfo.html) WAC 2.0 Full Part 3 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Full_Part_3of__4zip/;7670684;/fileinfo.html)
WAC 2.0 Full Part 4 (http://files.filefront.com/WAC_20_Full_Part_4of__4zip/;7671218;/fileinfo.html)

If you want 2.15 Full version, you need to download it from any of our good friends here who have links to it, I do not have it(My computer too Wimpy to play it).

I hope this helps my friends, good luck and good hunting.

[kevtherev]

I am outbound in my brand new mark IX, bound for the North Atlantic. Standing on the bridge I see that both periscopes are not fully retracted. Go inside the con and see also that the scope is not retracted. This is all after applying the key commands to retract scopes. At the moment this is only cosmetic but for shallow running the scopes could rise above water. :down:

[A6Intruder]

I am outbound in my brand new mark IX, bound for the North Atlantic. Standing on the bridge I see that both periscopes are not fully retracted. Go inside the con and see also that the scope is not retracted. This is all after applying the key commands to retract scopes. At the moment this is only cosmetic but for shallow running the scopes could rise above water. :down:

This is an known issue. You can solve it with a fix from NYGM-Mod. But if you do so you will loose the reflection of your sub. Thats the problem. I will speak with Han to solve this, not only cosmetic, problem. You will take more damage at your periscope by deptcharges when they are not fully down.
Kind regards from Hannover:up:

[kevtherev]

I am outbound in my brand new mark IX, bound for the North Atlantic. Standing on the bridge I see that both periscopes are not fully retracted. Go inside the con and see also that the scope is not retracted. This is all after applying the key commands to retract scopes. At the moment this is only cosmetic but for shallow running the scopes could rise above water. :down:

This is an known issue. You can solve it with a fix from NYGM-Mod. But if you do so you will loose the reflection of your sub. Thats the problem. I will speak with Han to solve this, not only cosmetic, problem. You will take more damage at your periscope by deptcharges when they are not fully down.
Kind regards from Hannover:up:

O/K, great. FYI - I returned to base and refitted my boat with a better? conning tower, on this con the periscopes are fully retracted on the bridge but the OBS? one still shows extended when inside the con, it is o/k outside, just funny inside. :huh:

[Von Manteuffel]

I'm running version 2.15 (Full ) with SH3 Commander. I started a career, sailing out of Wilhelmshaven. Halfway to Scapa I encountered and sank a nice fat ore-carrier. Then saved and exited ( domestic chores beckoned.) Chores done I returned to WAC and loaded my saved game to find my previously plotted course to the Atlantic still intact, BUT:

1. No trace of the ship I had sunk on the chart - I torpedo + deck-gun to finish it off.
2. My U-Boat back in dock at Wilhelmshaven. My plotted course apparently joined my first way-point just South of Scapa in a direct straight line to Wilhelmshaven
3. Absolutely no Harbour traffic ( moored ships etc )

Undeterred I set sail again until I could "join up" with my plotted course ( without having to go overland ). Halfway to Scapa I encountered an enemy merchant. I dived to periscope, changed course to parallel the targets and increased to flank speed to get ahead of it. I then clicked on the "Weapons Officer" icon to organise my tubes before attacking - result Total Freeze. In the end I had to "Hot boot" the entire machine ( something I always hate doing ). I got desktop, but keyboard and mouse remained totally frozen. I had to go through several recovery operations before getting my system back to normal ( albeit with a totally scrambled desktop - all those icons all over the place ).

What I did between the save and reload was to unpack the three terrain files. could that have done it? Even tho' I did Roll back SH3 Commander immediately after I'd exited and saved?

[HanSolo78]

@kevtherev

the pericope bug is a default bug I think... maybe we will be able to fix this!

@Von Manteuffel

sometimes sinked ships aren´t recorded... also happens with Sh3 default
the CTD you descibed I have never experienced before and such thing was also never reported.. I think this could be a problem of installation error!
This shouldn´t happen again!!


greetings
Han

[Von Manteuffel]

@ HanSolo78

Thanks. I think you must be right. Just to be safe I deleted the entire career and started a new one using SH3 Commander. Just finished my second mission with no problems - except that I can't get over how incredibly good WAC is. Thanks again for all your hard work. It's truly appreciated.

[danurve]

Mid Dec. `39.
U-51 VIIB enroute to AN52, received convoy report AN73 (http://huntny.us/sh3/6_02/41_468.jpg) 8 knots S/E.
That's right AN73 (shallow).
Sunk coastal near estimated intercept. Later dove to avoid detection by DD and passing merchant.
Hydrophone contacts - propeller sounds. Plotted a reverse "S" and swung around behind the single.
Observed 3 columns, two escorts (http://huntny.us/sh3/6_02/19_38.jpg). Ore freighters, cargo steamers, small tankers and a troopship. First logical attack plan - the two small tankers in the forward corner and the troopship in the center column.
But wait - 2nd troopship spotted! Garrrrr :ping:
U-51's position was then at a better AoB for the tankers, but acceptable.
Pair of fish at high speed to pass the 2nd tanker for the 2nd troopship.
2nd pair of fish med speed for the 1st troopship.
Approaching Escort, dive to 20m rig for silent running, adjust course.
The result? Smoke on the water! (http://huntny.us/sh3/6_02/20_32.jpg) 14000+ tonns.
Rear escort seemed clueless as to my position and circled.
Swung the boat around the forward shhip wreckage and headed out at 245.
About 2 hours later a warship on patrol greeted a steamer from the stern tube (http://huntny.us/sh3/6_02/23_13.jpg).
Resumed course for AN52.

I like it, I love it, I want some more of it ;)
U-51 Robert RXR Rosner commanding

[HanSolo78]

Hi Danurve!

Very nice sreens :)

we´re still busy at WAC 3.0 but it may last some time... maybe august... but will be a great improvement. If you want to join us.. we just fomed a WAC Team...

greetings
Han :up:

[HanSolo78]

Small teaser for next version... manual which describes war events that happend in reality. These events will appear in Sh3 like described in the manual and in world war 2!

Today:

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8881/manual2ru7.jpg

and

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7001/manual1hk9.jpg

[A6Intruder]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

[danurve]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

I think including the manual is an excellent idea.
Had a lengthy post but then I cut it because Im wondering if your asking about what the manual or Mod wishes to be.

So I'll start by suggesting the manual be available as a seprated d/l so users can look through it that have an interest in WAC. And it should include some of the Mods history befor going into details.

[HanSolo78]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

I think including the manual is an excellent idea.
Had a lengthy post but then I cut it because Im wondering if your asking about what the manual or Mod wishes to be.

So I'll start by suggesting the manual be available as a seprated d/l so users can look through it that have an interest in WAC. And it should include some of the Mods history befor going into details.

What dou you mean with mod history?

greetings

[danurve]

Well, I was thinking in the begining a paragraph of how WAC got started, your idea behind making or continuing it's development. And something of its direction and dedication for the player. By direction I mean describing what changes WAC makes and what it doesn't change and why.

[A6Intruder]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

I think including the manual is an excellent idea.
Had a lengthy post but then I cut it because Im wondering if your asking about what the manual or Mod wishes to be.

So I'll start by suggesting the manual be available as a seprated d/l so users can look through it that have an interest in WAC. And it should include some of the Mods history befor going into details.

Hi Danrve,
the "manual" is not realy an manual, it is more a deepter touch into history. For Kaleuns who want to know more about the historical backround of the events ,took place in campain. We will not include any "game history" of included mods, and it will not be seperatly downloadable because it is included in WAC 3.0.
My asking was not only about the "manual", it was also a question about any other wishes you may have about WAC 3.0.
BTW If anybody want to join us please contakt HanSolo.
Kind regards:up:

[danurve]

Hi Danrve,
the "manual" is not realy an manual, it is more a deepter touch into history. For Kaleuns who want to know more about the historical backround of the events ,took place in campain. We will not include any "game history" of included mods, and it will not be seperatly downloadable because it is included in WAC 3.0.
My asking was not only about the "manual", it was also a question about any other wishes you may have about WAC 3.0.
BTW If anybody want to join us please contakt HanSolo.
Kind regards:up:

Well ok then but I think that would be a mistake.
Consider the amount of players interested in the Mod but want to read about it first before downloading a gig to look at it. A manual even with basic details added to what you have in mind would be to WAC's benifit. As of now Im pointing people to the revision history html and screenshot pages. Even if it is not a manual but a guide to the events it should still IMO be available sepreratly perhaps as pdf.

It should also instruct/help make the 'repacking' of the extra's folders easy to understand. I think some get confused as to why this is nessesary.

[HanSolo78]

To clear some things up... the manual will have a short summary of the intention but without getting too detailed!
Because all addition and mods that are contained are still on my history version page.
A detailed description will also be in the manual, as posted some weeks ago!

To get some ideas what should be in the introduction of the manual that describes the WAC mod... what should be in there? what do you think?

[danurve]

Ok :ping:

1) I would like to see the buoyancy issue at silent speed under 3knots back to stock value.
I am having to edit the sub's cfg periscope depth to compensate.

2) Any way of preventing a sunk ship from reappearing on a save? Or at least untill the next patrol?
Example: I have sunk a cruiser / capitol ship in a task-force. Returned to the save and the ship is back with the task force yet the log shows the kill/tonnage.
2a) Durring the Bismark scenerio the Hood is unsunk and shown after the battle with another battleship.

3) While Im not a fan of using Kiel canal, if there was some sort of auto-map for it it wouldn't be a pain.

4) IMO: scrap the light version. Instead an option to reduce the fire/smoke effects and perhaps slightly lighter harbour traffic (for those of us with AGP or older graphic cards) without taking away anything else from the mod.

5) Uniform the downloads. None of the mirrors are the same. I'd like to continue a mirror so players don't jump through pop-ups, advertisements or porn for the files. Once 3.0 is ready maybe hans could make rar's instead of 7z.

That's enough for now, I'm sure to have forgotten something but these are just wishes.

[prowler3]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

I love everything that you have done. Adding more "stuff", as in the teaser, is excellent.

My question is...how do I ensure that I leave base at a date which will allow me to "get involved" in these real world operations? I have SH3Commander and SH3Gen installed.

Vic

[A6Intruder]

Dear WAC Kaleuns and other,
please be so kind and give us some Feedback for our Teaser.
We could only get better if we know what you guys like or do not like!
Are there wishes we should know about?
Kind regards:D

I love everything that you have done. Adding more "stuff", as in the teaser, is excellent.

My question is...how do I ensure that I leave base at a date which will allow me to "get involved" in these real world operations? I have SH3Commander and SH3Gen installed.

Vic

Of course there will be a lot more "stuff", as in the teaser.
Your question about "leaving to get involved" is quite interesting. I do not know if it is possible. You can edit the days in port but that does not ensure that you have enough time to get close to action. I will talk with Han about this problem.
Kind regards:up:

[danurve]

I would also like to see the Troopship docked at Cadiz (Thalia) changed to Neutral or something Neutral.
Same goes for the Wrecked C-2 in the channel outside of Trondheim (http://mysh3.info/danurve/6_19/10_31.jpg).

[HanSolo78]

I would also like to see the Troopship docked at Cadiz (Thalia) changed to Neutral or something Neutral.
Same goes for the Wrecked C-2 in the channel outside of Trondheim (http://mysh3.info/danurve/6_19/10_31.jpg).

No problem! :up:
Will be in our "To-Do" list....

answers to your questions above dan..

1. might be possible but then there could be the problem of fast sinking with water leakage

2. unfortunately not possible due to SH engine

2a.where did you met her? should not be!!!

3. definitely possible and on "To-Do" list

4. no good idea because harbour traffic stresses CPU&Ram; smoke only graphic cards

5. good idea BUT.. no rar format possible because of low compression!! would be 2Gb download.. not acceptable!

[danurve]

Alright well lets see..(in responce to)

1. Ok, I've gotten used to the 13.5 edit n/p.
2. Bummer.
2a. I dug up the old screens, unfortunatly I didn't mark the map but here is what I remember and have; The Hood was sailing with the Prince of Wales on a W/N/W heading oviously back to Britan. I can't remember if it was in the western aproaches or farther north, sorry. But it was shortly after (about) May 26, `41.
If you would like to see the screens let me know.
3. Cool.
4. The suggestion was more because the smoke kills my card - frame rate. Perhaps then somehow to take out the extra smoke effects for us older card players?
On a side note alot of peoole have asked me about the "light version". I don't know what is does not have compared to the full so I can't help answer. When I first decided to install WAC I didn't want to miss out on anything so I downloaded the full version. I'm thinking many people who want to try the mod might think the same. Perhaps if on your site you could say what it excludes or leaves out compared to the full version I could mirror the info.
5. Speaking of mirrors, I'll see what I can do about 7z files on the other server in the future. And of course mention what to use to uncompress the files with proper instr.

edit; Seem to have straightened out the 7z problem on the other host. If the next WAC release will be a few months I'll see about uploading the current 2.0 original files for the mirror.

[HanSolo78]

Some preview screenies.. historical correct Scharnhorst&Gneisenau!
Our wizzard made some important changes to this ship class... he installed the origin 28cm triple gun
and changed the position of the mast on the Gneisenau right after the funnel!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2858/scharnhorstkr9.jpghttp://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1860/gneisenau01ft2.jpg


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9695/scharnhorstgc2.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3926/gneisenaumr1.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4963/scharnhorstgneisenauaa9.jpg

[prowler3]

HanSolo...I realize how hard you work at this but I would like to know if you are still looking into or considering the changes I suggested regarding the "target lock"?

"If a target is viewable in a device (Periscope, UZO, Binoculars or M1-A1 eyeball) it should remain on the map WITHOUT having to be "lockable". If I can SEE it, it gets charted on, and STAYS on, the map...regardless of the targets "lockability"".

I have mentioned this before, and some have replied positively to this "SH3"..."inconsistency"?

I realize this is most likely an SH3 problem and one that cannot be easily reconciled? In which case I say the easiest "fix" is to put the "target lock" ability back to SH3 default levels, or even higher, and allow us to use our honesty and desire for reality to dictate when we push the "LOCK" button?

I, for one, will NOT be pushing the "LOCK" button at 12,000 m !!! BUT...if I can see the smoke from that C2's stack...it should stay on the map?

Just my thoughts, commented on by a few others, on how to fix this inconsistency. No...it is NOT your (WAC) error! YOU did not tie mapping of targets to target "lockability"...SH3 did. You can only work around SH3's limits.

I am just trying to suggest a possible fix, with your fan's honesty and desire to "simulate reality" as your guide? Yes, some will lock a target at first site of smoke...we can't worry or care about "those people"...they are not the WAC afficianado's that you spend all this time on? WE are!! :up: We are the one's who will not "cheat" at every opportunity but will make things as real as possible in our own SH3 campaigns.

I hope you understand the issue I am trying to tell you about. It is the last hurdle I have run across in WAC to make it the BEST MOD for SH3...and it already is that!

Thanks for all your time and effort HanSolo...it's a rare quality to find someone who is both dedicated to running a sim AND improving it, as you have. I realize you have used the work of others, combined with your own...we all know what a "Supermod" is! LOL! It still takes a lot of time and effort to put it all together...so that it works!! :up:

Thanks for your time, HanSolo!!

Vic

[subeye]

Some preview screenies.. historical correct
Scharnhorst&Gneisenau!
Our wizzard made some important changes to this ship class... he installed the origin 28cm triple gun
and changed the position of the mast on the Gneisenau right after the funnel!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2858/scharnhorstkr9.jpghttp://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1860/gneisenau01ft2.jpg


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9695/scharnhorstgc2.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3926/gneisenaumr1.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4963/scharnhorstgneisenauaa9.jpg
Very very nice Han Solo ! Are those ship´s in your WAC mod, if yes Where ????:-?

[A6Intruder]

They are both into the mod (otherwise Operation Cerberus (Channel Dash)would be a little bit tricky;) ), but not in this Version. Both the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau got both the right 28mm turrets (not the now used british turrets) and some cosmetic features like the mast-position .
Kind regards:up:

[HanSolo78]

@subeye

These ships are in some operations and will be even in some more in the next WAC 3.0 ;)

[danurve]

I know there is discussion around 3.0 in the works, but for current 2.15 players - don't miss out on the War Ace Norway Operations !! Outstanding :up:

We got Task forces, Convoys, AI-subs, friendly and enemy, converging convoys in ports near Trondhiem, air patrols where the Luftwaffe coordinate attacks, I even had them bomb an S-class snooping around I detected. We got landing ships, troopships, tankers, capitol ships, aux cruisers and more.

Sail back to Kiel? I don't think so, back to Trondhiem and Im going to hang around & patrol the Norway coast for now:arrgh!:

[Uber Gruber]

Quick question....is it possible to get War ace Campaign to work with NYGM 2.5 ? I like the idea of having the scripted actions integrated into NYGM if possible.

If not then no worries.

Cheers....

[A6Intruder]

Quick question....is it possible to get War ace Campaign to work with NYGM 2.5 ? I like the idea of having the scripted actions integrated into NYGM if possible.

If not then no worries.

Cheers....


I do not think so. None of the supermods is mixable with an other supermod. If you love the campain, and you will do so if you tried, you have to come to WAC:up: :lol:
Kind regards

[danurve]

I need to know what sound file is used when the boat is at critical depth.
The sound has bolts bursting - breaking off and someone says something in German.

Thanx.

edit nevermind got it, creaks_level4

[danurve]

Version 2.15 should be installed over 2.0!
2.0 is a must have for 2.15 but you have to choose the apropriate version!
light 2.0 can only update to light 2.15 for example!

the light version only has minor harbour traffic, 8Km atmosphere and fewer graphical changes. events are the same!

btw. next version... might be a 3.0 full... will contain over 40 events (now 20), detailed manual for events, etc. we´ll see ;)

But a long way to go....

Hans! Somehow I missed this post, I'll add that description to the WAC page and the War Ace wiki (manual) entry.

I will do some personal research on the 8km / 16km differences but I'm wondering by fewer graphical changes does that mean just less smoke & fire affects or what else?

From the version History page
Version 2.15 - 9.04.2007
- added better reworked big smoke
Version 2.1 - 18.3.2007
- added new reworked smoke by Pascal/Anvart
- reworked fire and smoke effects - now turns to wind direction and fires are bigger
Version 2.0 - 15.12.2006
- added fire (and smoke) to wrecks
- added sobers smoke mod
- added Oblivion smoke mod *not in light version*

I was going to look into making a min-mod for myself to change these back to stock just so my AGP graphics don't choke on explosions/smoke but maybe the light version would be better in my case. When you have a moment could you explain the graphical differences?
Thanx!

btw; sent you a PM about something else

edit well it didn't take long to read up about 8km vs 16km. Now I'm thinking a good experiment would be the light version with the 16km mod ... I need a beer.

[danurve]

I have tried a few different smoke mods and found "DowlysNewSmoke[Non-edited]" to my taste, it also does not seem to crank on my video card as much! As a result I can once again enjoy much of the close up fireworks (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/21_453.jpg).

Back to the 'wish list' in a way, this is a few things I've noticed playing April - May '40 (Norway Ops). Never a boring patrol btw; outstanding actions :up: Three patrols out of Trodhiem and each over 50k!

When you Start a patrol in Trondhiem there is a stationary enemy merchant in the harbour. The shore guns and nearby warships imediatly start to blast it (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/7_734.jpg). It does add a sence of war but I dunno if it is supposta be there. Also a Norwegian flaged Hospital ship goes through the channel (scripted?) and even if you submerge and let it pass it gets blasted and sunk by the land units.

Not sure if I mentioned this before and I dunno if it can be fixed - something is odd with the S-class subs. They fight back if you attack them (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/48_921.jpg) alright, but score zero (0) tonnage (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/16_437.jpg) and disapear from the screen. In other words the marked kill does not show (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/36_828.jpg). Before I exit the patrol I edit the log file for about 950 tonns each but that is just weird.

And last but not least; the damage control, or flooding control seems a bit heavy (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/45_375.jpg).
Even with minor damage and with compartments filled, repair qualified men, the flooding seems to quickly remain out of control and your boat sinks - done. Sometimes you can set speed at 2/3 to maintain depth but of course then your not in silent running and the escorts blast you again. So I'm not sure how the new damage system is working, the crew, you would think, should address the flooding first but seem to be off doing other repair? Or it seems like the flooding recovery time is always getting worse and even with full crew they can't handle it.
Thoughts on this? Can it be tweeked a bit perhaps, or is there an edit.

Thanx!

[A6Intruder]

I have tried a few different smoke mods and found "DowlysNewSmoke[Non-edited]" to my taste, it also does not seem to crank on my video card as much! As a result I can once again enjoy much of the close up fireworks (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/21_453.jpg).

Back to the 'wish list' in a way, this is a few things I've noticed playing April - May '40 (Norway Ops). Never a boring patrol btw; outstanding actions :up: Three patrols out of Trodhiem and each over 50k!

When you Start a patrol in Trondhiem there is a stationary enemy merchant in the harbour. The shore guns and nearby warships imediatly start to blast it (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/7_734.jpg). It does add a sence of war but I dunno if it is supposta be there. Also a Norwegian flaged Hospital ship goes through the channel (scripted?) and even if you submerge and let it pass it gets blasted and sunk by the land units.

Not sure if I mentioned this before and I dunno if it can be fixed - something is odd with the S-class subs. They fight back if you attack them (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/48_921.jpg) alright, but score zero (0) tonnage (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/16_437.jpg) and disapear from the screen. In other words the marked kill does not show (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/36_828.jpg). Before I exit the patrol I edit the log file for about 950 tonns each but that is just weird.

And last but not least; the damage control, or flooding control seems a bit heavy (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/45_375.jpg).
Even with minor damage and with compartments filled, repair qualified men, the flooding seems to quickly remain out of control and your boat sinks - done. Sometimes you can set speed at 2/3 to maintain depth but of course then your not in silent running and the escorts blast you again. So I'm not sure how the new damage system is working, the crew, you would think, should address the flooding first but seem to be off doing other repair? Or it seems like the flooding recovery time is always getting worse and even with full crew they can't handle it.
Thoughts on this? Can it be tweeked a bit perhaps, or is there an edit.

Thanx!


Hi,
the issue with the british sub is known. The problem ist that SH3 is not able to realise a sunk enemy sub with tonnage. We hope to solve this problem, maybe someone of the gwx-team has a good idea about, because the will release a lot of subs in 1.4 and should have the same problem.
Your smoke ist for my taste "to grey" imo smoke has to be heavy black.:yep:
Kind regards

[bigboywooly]

I have tried a few different smoke mods and found "DowlysNewSmoke[Non-edited]" to my taste, it also does not seem to crank on my video card as much! As a result I can once again enjoy much of the close up fireworks (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/21_453.jpg).

Back to the 'wish list' in a way, this is a few things I've noticed playing April - May '40 (Norway Ops). Never a boring patrol btw; outstanding actions :up: Three patrols out of Trodhiem and each over 50k!

When you Start a patrol in Trondhiem there is a stationary enemy merchant in the harbour. The shore guns and nearby warships imediatly start to blast it (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/7_734.jpg). It does add a sence of war but I dunno if it is supposta be there. Also a Norwegian flaged Hospital ship goes through the channel (scripted?) and even if you submerge and let it pass it gets blasted and sunk by the land units.

Not sure if I mentioned this before and I dunno if it can be fixed - something is odd with the S-class subs. They fight back if you attack them (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/48_921.jpg) alright, but score zero (0) tonnage (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/16_437.jpg) and disapear from the screen. In other words the marked kill does not show (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/36_828.jpg). Before I exit the patrol I edit the log file for about 950 tonns each but that is just weird.

And last but not least; the damage control, or flooding control seems a bit heavy (http://huntny.us/sh3/7_03/45_375.jpg).
Even with minor damage and with compartments filled, repair qualified men, the flooding seems to quickly remain out of control and your boat sinks - done. Sometimes you can set speed at 2/3 to maintain depth but of course then your not in silent running and the escorts blast you again. So I'm not sure how the new damage system is working, the crew, you would think, should address the flooding first but seem to be off doing other repair? Or it seems like the flooding recovery time is always getting worse and even with full crew they can't handle it.
Thoughts on this? Can it be tweeked a bit perhaps, or is there an edit.

Thanx!


Hi,
the issue with the british sub is known. The problem ist that SH3 is not able to realise a sunk enemy sub with tonnage. We hope to solve this problem, maybe someone of the gwx-team has a good idea about, because the will release a lot of subs in 1.4 and should have the same problem.
Your smoke ist for my taste "to grey" imo smoke has to be heavy black.:yep:
Kind regards

Ummmm SH3 does show a sunk subs tonnage

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/ScreenHunter_114.jpg

We did nothing special to get this to show
As I dont have WAC on the comp at the mo I cant check the subs folder

[JScones]

Ummmm SH3 does show a sunk subs tonnage

We did nothing special to get this to show
Yes we did - I remember telling the Kpt how to do it. ;)

[bigboywooly]

Ummmm SH3 does show a sunk subs tonnage

We did nothing special to get this to show
Yes we did - I remember telling the Kpt how to do it. ;)

:oops: Well now I feel stoopid

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Well I didnt know we did anything

[A6Intruder]

Ummmm SH3 does show a sunk subs tonnage

We did nothing special to get this to show
Yes we did - I remember telling the Kpt how to do it. ;)

:oops: Well now I feel stoopid

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Well I didnt know we did anything

Hi,
it would be nice if anybody could remember and will be so nice to tell us.
Thank you very much in forward.
Kind regards:up:

[prowler3]

At some point in WAC 2.15, BDU allows the use of the English Channel. Before that date BDU does not allow traversing the EC due to minning. Does anybody remember the date when using the EC is allowed by BDU? I'm wondering if I missed the message from BDU stating that I can traverse the EC? I'm patrolling in January, 1940 at present.

Thank you.

Vic

[Urdhuk]

After reading this thread, I decided to give your mod a try.

In a few words: OUTSTANDING!!!:up:

However, there are some suggestions I would like to make.

Crew fatigue: WAC should incorporate a more realistic model, in order to avoid micromanagement and improve gaming experience. Is there a SH3 commander fatigue model that best suits your mod?

Crew configutation: basically, it is the same stock crew. I am also a big fan of NYGM 2.5 and sail with a type II boat. The number of petty officers should be increased to 10 instead of the original nine and the engine positions should be reduced to five as it is in NYGM 2.5. In this way, the operational efficiency of the boat will be greatly increased, and the sonar/radio station will be covered at all times.

Keep this mod up. I think it is great and I will recommend it whenever I coud, despite I only sailed for five hours.

Salute

[danurve]

Urdhuk, glad your enjoying the mod! I just finished a nice 130k patrol in a VIIB. Norway Ops May-June 40`. HMS Renown in the list!

Hans - A6; I have spotted an error I belive in when 1st Flotilla moves to Brest.
I have a VIIB outside of Norway and when June 1st hit I got the Message the base was moved to Brest (http://mysh3.info/danurve/7_09/59_453.jpg), the date is June 1., 1940 (http://mysh3.info/danurve/7_09/58_984.jpg). The correct date for the flotilla move is June 1941 (http://uboat.net/flotillas/1flo.htm) I thought. Or 8/40?
If that needs to be corrected, what file contains the edit untill the next release?
Thanx.

Another minor thing that might need attention, I docked the boat in Mosjoen, (N/E of Trondheim) to simulate a resupply. This port has no docks, and so I don't think a boat would normally use this port, - but if you do when you start the next patrol the U-boat is partly stuck on the shore (http://mysh3.info/danurve/7_09/44_750.jpg). Ahead full frees it but you wind up with some minor repairable damage.

[nik112]

:ping: hi guys
tried to d/l the files from realsimulations but the files were damaged, also at wac site but i take a message to d/l the megaupload tool bar. are the files at filefront or somewhere else;
cheers

[danurve]

:ping: hi guys
tried to d/l the files from realsimulations but the files were damaged, also at wac site but i take a message to d/l the megaupload tool bar. are the files at filefront or somewhere else;
cheers

Greetings; here's 3 other places you can download War Ace from:

Hansolo's download page
http://www.realhp.de/members/hansolo78/Downloads.html

Tuddlys filefront page
http://hosted.filefront.com/Tuddley3

mysh3.info's download page
http://mysh3.info/sh3downloads.html

Please Note; Not to mix up files from other d/l pages/sites.

[HanSolo78]

@Urdhuk

Welcome in WAC :up:

Good ideas that you have!
We will chnage this for the upcoming 3.0 release.
Thx for this advice and good hunting!!!

@ dan

date of base change is located in messages.txt in the campaign folder for the radio messages. or the actual date for base change is located in flotilla.cfg in cfg folder!
I know that the radio messages don´t match with the selected base changing times.
Whether the base changing time will be changed or the radio messages in 3.0 !
The thing with the stuck u-boat is not possible to change because of the missing dock... I´m sorry!

greetings
Han

[HanSolo78]

A short recall that we´re still working on WAC.

Some small Preview of WAC 3.0!

Operations in real life.. described in the manual:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3598/teaserip6.jpg

the operations in the game:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/699/teaser2er8.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6471/teaser1cg1.jpg

[danurve]

Well I have gotten a boat in and around Dunkirk late May `40 to check out the event.
Neat stuff even though most of the targets are small, this would be historicaly accurate. First run I managed to scrap the lead escort and then take out the trawler. Surfaced and caused a bit of random chaos!
Wasn't long before the RAF showed up though.
Sometimes I think my deck gunners sniffed a few to many diesel fumes.

With 3 pages of log entries near 60k tons I slipped away to Helgoland and returned to the event at high speed thinking this is a cake walk. Where once again a few RAF bombers and an angry DE with a pair of corvettes provided an attitude adjustment. Got a chance to watch a few AI engagements, exchange gunfire etc.
Going back for more..:|\\

Just a note depending on what kind of balls your machine has, be carefull using any T/C in the area of Dunkirk.

[Urdhuk]

Greetings, Han Solo:

I'm glad you liked some ideas taken from NYGM related to crew composition and fatigue models (at least for my favored Type II boat). I hope you can implement them easily.

There is another feature I saw in NYGM mod you should consider. This mod introduced changes in the in the speed and maximun range atainable. The most efficient speed is now ahed standard. I think this is very realistic.

I'm sorry I didn't wrote to you earlier, but my system was destroyed by a virus and I am still recovering and trying a new video card. It is a GeForce 7900 GS AGP. I hope it could be enough to play your mod smoothly.

Finally, a couple of questions. Are the downloads links still working? Which one would you recommend me? Are you going to implement your new version as an upgrade or a stand-alone version?


Salute,

Urdhuk

[HanSolo78]

hi urdhuk

I think we´ll have to think about the speed issue... we have to discuss this... I hope we don´t forget any of your good ideas out of this community because we have such a huuuge feature list!! :ping:
I think your graphics card should work well.
Most download links should work and the best should be http://www.mysh3.info/WAC/
WAC 3.0 will come as a stand alone version!

[Borgneface]

Hello HanSolo;

I wanted to download your WAC for a long time, but just could not go throught cause of being running with 56k modem......
For A few days I am staying at friends who have broad band....Super....! So I downloaded "WAC lite version" but the "Update 2.0 to Light Version 2.15" is not working! I get a message files does not exist!

Please help!

Thanks a lot

Borgneface

[HanSolo78]

@Borgeneface

Where did you download the update?

Did you try the WAC site: http://www.realhp.de/members/hansolo78/Downloads.html

The first download works still fine for me.
Otherwise.. if you downloaded the update you have to install 7-zip to extract the update and the activate it via JSME!

[Borgneface]

Thanks for your prompt reply, HanSolo. Yes this is exactly the link I used and again when I try to download the update,just now, this the message I got:
Deposit file:
Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights


This is really odd!!

:arrgh!:

[danurve]

Borgneface; If you are in need of the 2.0 to 2.15 light update I have uploaded it to my host you can try this link;

WarAceCampaign2.15_light.7z (huntny.us/shiiifiles/WarAceCampaign2.15_light.7z)

[Borgneface]

Ahoy danurve!

Thank you so much......I am really thankful....for this...I'll start downloading later this evening, cause i am back home to my 56k modem and it is going to take a few hours...lol!

Good hunting

:arrgh!:

[HanSolo78]

Another small Preview:

soon in WAC 3.0

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1222/zaraclassyl1.jpg

[Tuddley3]

This is getting exciting, the suspense is killing me!!!

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

looking forward to WAC 3.0 :rock:
i like to play both GWX and WAC :up:

[Jhereg]

Just got it running after mucking about trying to get valid downloads and must say AWESOME:up:

Leaving Wilhelmshaven at night is an experience, look at all the warships:yep:

I read thru the thread and did not see if anyone had done a conversion for the radio messages yet, when you said I need to use German language does that mean I will not even get the message or will it just be in German if I have text set to English?

Now I have to go get RB's smoke for my VIIB as I only have the GWX versions.

Thank you for a great mod!

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Just got it running after mucking about trying to get valid downloads and must say AWESOME:up:

Leaving Wilhelmshaven at night is an experience, look at all the warships:yep:

I read thru the thread and did not see if anyone had done a conversion for the radio messages yet, when you said I need to use German language does that mean I will not even get the message or will it just be in German if I have text set to English?

Now I have to go get RB's smoke for my VIIB as I only have the GWX versions.

Thank you for a great mod!
(dont forget the flag mod ;))

[A6Intruder]

Just got it running after mucking about trying to get valid downloads and must say AWESOME:up:

Leaving Wilhelmshaven at night is an experience, look at all the warships:yep:

I read thru the thread and did not see if anyone had done a conversion for the radio messages yet, when you said I need to use German language does that mean I will not even get the message or will it just be in German if I have text set to English?

Now I have to go get RB's smoke for my VIIB as I only have the GWX versions.

Thank you for a great mod!
(dont forget the flag mod ;))


There will be new radio messages in english in WAC 3.0. Also there will be RB`s smokemods included. About the Flagmod we are talking right now.
Kind regards:sunny:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Just got it running after mucking about trying to get valid downloads and must say AWESOME:up:

Leaving Wilhelmshaven at night is an experience, look at all the warships:yep:

I read thru the thread and did not see if anyone had done a conversion for the radio messages yet, when you said I need to use German language does that mean I will not even get the message or will it just be in German if I have text set to English?

Now I have to go get RB's smoke for my VIIB as I only have the GWX versions.

Thank you for a great mod! (dont forget the flag mod ;))

There will be new radio messages in english in WAC 3.0. Also there will be RB`s smokemods included. About the Flagmod we are talking right now.
Kind regards:sunny:
thought you wernt interested :hmm:

[onelifecrisis]

There will be new radio messages in english in WAC 3.0.

Fantastic news! :rock:

When is WAC 3.0 due out?

[JCWolf]

Another small Preview:

soon in WAC 3.0

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1222/zaraclassyl1.jpg

Damn, this smashing creat news,
so We are now talking of another great mod comming to the
Front and this means loads of game play!:rock: :rock:

Thanks HS for this brilliante work upcomming!:up:

It's time to had some Download spots for your work at my Harbor
and reserve a place to this incomming new edition!?

What do you say mate?!

[bigboywooly]

Another small Preview:

soon in WAC 3.0

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1222/zaraclassyl1.jpg

Another class unit from Gerome

[HanSolo78]

@ onelifecrisis

Probably end of September to mid October

@jcwolf

actually the mod already exists for about 18 months ;)
but in the last few months I focused the mainpart to get a huge event campaign.

You wanna host my mod?
no problem... feel free to do it.
but maybe you should first have a look to the install and write a short discription like danurve did because most people still have install problems.
hopefully these will be gone with WAC 3.0

greetings

Han

[onelifecrisis]

Hi HanSolo

Thanks for the reply. I've been reading your site and decided to download WAC - it sounds great. :D One thing though... some parts e.g. "Kiel_Scapa_Suez" come with a file called SH3Repacker.exe and the readme says "Follow the instructions to use SH3Repacker.exe" but there are no instructions... where do I find them?

Thanks
OLC

Edit: no worries I found the answer in the help section of your site :)

[JCWolf]

@ onelifecrisis

Probably end of September to mid October

@jcwolf

actually the mod already exists for about 18 months ;)
but in the last few months I focused the mainpart to get a huge event campaign.

You wanna host my mod?
no problem... feel free to do it.
but maybe you should first have a look to the install and write a short discription like danurve did because most people still have install problems.
hopefully these will be gone with WAC 3.0

greetings

Han

I know for how long you're out there,
and also The WAC...:arrgh!:

I was mentioning the New incomming release from the teaser poster!:yep: :lol:

[Jhereg]

Just a lil problem, the Konigsberg and a Flottenbegliter on Aug 27 out of Kiel ran aground on the spit of land with the Lighthouse on it as you enter the channel leaving Kiel.:hmm:

Did not see any reports of problems with the Konigsberg so figured I would let you know.

Great job though on this Uber Mod:rock:

[onelifecrisis]

I also found a strange problem. OK I know this is the War Ace Campaign but after installing I fired up the Bismark single mission just to see if my machine could handle WAC's graphics, and there was a strange bug with the sonarman voice, who whispered and SHOUTED:

Contact! Warship! Moving closer! BearingTWO! SEVEN! FIVE!
Contact! Warship! Moving closer! BearingTHREE! ZERO! SIX!

And so on... :lol:

[shegeek72]

I also found a strange problem. OK I know this is the War Ace Campaign but after installing I fired up the Bismark single mission just to see if my machine could handle WAC's graphics, and there was a strange bug with the sonarman voice, who whispered and SHOUTED:

Contact! Warship! Moving closer! BearingTWO! SEVEN! FIVE!
Contact! Warship! Moving closer! BearingTHREE! ZERO! SIX!

And so on... :lol:
He was being goosed by Bernard mid-sentence. :o :p
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http://tarasresources.net/wac_banner2.gif

[onelifecrisis]

He was being goosed by Bernard mid-sentence. :o :p

:rotfl:

[danurve]

shegeek; Interesting banner in your sig :know:

hans; You may want to keep an eye on the sh4-effects-to-sh3 by racerboy. I have tested a beta an it's awsome! Seems to be less frames drop on my old AGP (so far) and includes nice smoke effects of course.

[A6Intruder]

shegeek; Interesting banner in your sig :know:

hans; You may want to keep an eye on the sh4-effects-to-sh3 by racerboy. I have tested a beta an it's awsome! Seems to be less frames drop on my old AGP (so far) and includes nice smoke effects of course.


Be sure, we will have an eye on it:up:
Kind regards

[shegeek72]

shegeek; Interesting banner in your sig :know:
Thanks. :sunny: SH3, besides being a great sim, has lead to learning about many areas of WWII (that was presented in school so dryly I forgot most of it), the WACs being one of them. :know:
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http://tarasresources.net/wac_banner2.gif

[Tuddley3]

shegeek; Interesting banner in your sig :know:
Thanks. :sunny: SH3, besides being a great sim, has lead to learning about many areas of WWII (that was presented in school so dryly I forgot most of it), the WACs being one of them. :know:
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http://tarasresources.net/wac_banner2.gif

That is so true, I never paid attention to WWII History in school. But since I bought SH3, I have gained an interest in it, because now I have something in common with it. Now I really can't wait for WAC 3.0 to be released.http://foolstown.com/sm/999.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/leb.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/ura.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/alc.gif

BTW, your sig making has always been top notch, you are very talented :up:

[shegeek72]

That is so true, I never paid attention to WWII History in school. But since I bought SH3, I have gained an interest in it, because now I have something in common with it. Now I really can't wait for WAC 3.0 to be released.http://foolstown.com/sm/999.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/leb.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/ura.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/alc.gif

BTW, your sig making has always been top notch, you are very talented :up:
:oops: [blush] TY!

I worked 3 1/2 yrs in computer graphics. Love the work. :know: :up:
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http://tarasresources.net/sh3_wac_banner3.jpg

[HanSolo78]

That is so true, I never paid attention to WWII History in school. But since I bought SH3, I have gained an interest in it, because now I have something in common with it. Now I really can't wait for WAC 3.0 to be released.http://foolstown.com/sm/999.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/leb.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/ura.gifhttp://foolstown.com/sm/alc.gif

BTW, your sig making has always been top notch, you are very talented :up:
:oops: [blush] TY!

I worked 3 1/2 yrs in computer graphics. Love the work. :know: :up:
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http://tarasresources.net/sh3_wac_banner3.jpg

Maybe you wanna join the team and make some great graphics for us?


BTW. some bad news... a release date in October is almost impossible.
To much work to do... :lol:

[Stuntman]

Dear Hansolo and others knowing about WAC.

I have not played SH3 for a long time now, but I got interest in it again, and wanted to play WAC. I have installed the FULL version, but I wonder if the FULL version is to challening for my computer...

I mean, it lags pretty much when in the harbour, like 15 to 10 fps, but will it lag as much when the u-boat is out on the sea? Since I wonder if I should have WAC light or FULL, I love the FULL's featrues, but it lags when starting. MY pc has 2 Gig's ram, 4.2 Gig CPU, but a GeForce 7600gt video card, which is the only factor which is below the requirements.

So, will it only lag extra much in the harbour, but ease when on the sea? because I don't want to play WAC full if I only have 10 fps...

Another question. Since I maybe need to have WAC light instead, I have downloaded it, but the v. 2.15 light is not available to download on your mirror!
Can I just skip the 2.15 and jump right to 2.15 hotfix? If not, where can I get 2.15?

Answer will be very appreciated!

[danurve]

Stuntman 2.15 light is available off mysh3.info/WAC mirror.

To my knowledge WarAce light has 8k not 16 k and lighter harbour traffic, all the events & jazz included as in Full. It may solve your fps, WarAce is still intense on graphics. Once your boat is out of the harbours fps is better.
The specs on your pc seem ok except if your video card isn't as you say there may be some things you can do. Make sure your event cam is off. In the video settings for sh3 lower your particle density to 50%. Make sure your card-driver settings are up to date. You can install the stock ocean-floor mod, how often do you use the external view to watch the ocean floor anyway? Also the files for WarAce smoke effects are heavy on video cards, you could try the new SH4 effects for SH3 mods (beta) by racerboy, intense effects but belive it or not not as much of a card drain. Btw; I use an older but not ancient 256 AGP card. Or the Oblivion smoke is good to.

edit Don't skip and just install the hotfix. Hotfix is a 'fix' that prevents CTD from the update / sound.

1. 2.0 (required first)
2. 2.15 update
3. 2.15 hotfix

[linerkiller]

When I was playing sh4, i remember there was two starting options: outside or inside the harbour...this could be a solution for the players that wants full experiences avoiding FPS pains;)
LK

[Stuntman]

Stuntman 2.15 light is available off mysh3.info/WAC mirror.

To my knowledge WarAce light has 8k not 16 k and lighter harbour traffic, all the events & jazz included as in Full. It may solve your fps, WarAce is still intense on graphics. Once your boat is out of the harbours fps is better.
The specs on your pc seem ok except if your video card isn't as you say there may be some things you can do. Make sure your event cam is off. In the video settings for sh3 lower your particle density to 50%. Make sure your card-driver settings are up to date. You can install the stock ocean-floor mod, how often do you use the external view to watch the ocean floor anyway? Also the files for WarAce smoke effects are heavy on video cards, you could try the new SH4 effects for SH3 mods (beta) by racerboy, intense effects but belive it or not not as much of a card drain. Btw; I use an older but not ancient 256 AGP card. Or the Oblivion smoke is good to.

edit Don't skip and just install the hotfix. Hotfix is a 'fix' that prevents CTD from the update / sound.

1. 2.0 (required first)
2. 2.15 update
3. 2.15 hotfix

Thank you, danurve! It really helps! I will use stock seafloor, and the beta smoke, and 50% particle density. But where can I get the smoke mod and stock floor mod? If you can be so kind to give me a link, please?:lol:

Btw, what is the "synchronize" in the options screen? what does it do? will I get better FPS if I toggle it off?

And I hope I still can use FULL after these good tips.

Thank you!