[REL] Jyunsen B, Kaichu and kaidai IJN mod

[peabody]

Very nice and refreshing,i love the new sub.
But i have a problem with the type AM,the texture of the hull warp constantly(like there were other texture),all the other sub are fine.
Many thanks for your nice mod :up:

A small edit:when the sub is underwater the problem go away...to return when i re-surface :(

Axlwolf,
Is the 'warp' on the tower part or the actual hull. I know the problem with the tower, like Keltos said it is from making the Sen Toku tower smaller and he has not made a new texture yet. I have seen a problem there, but I have not seen a problem on the hull itself. Is it the whole hull or just parts? What exactly do you mean by 'warp' just to make sure we are talking about the same thing? The more info, the easier to find and fix.

Peabody

[keltos01]

I know some texture on the tower deck was warped, happened with the shrinking I think, so I made a new deck between the second floor stern and bow AA emplacements.


http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3954/newdeckiu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/newdeckiu5.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img258/newdeckiu5.jpg/1/)

now I need to redo the image map :-?

I will remove the radar type 22 as it is a dummy here.

keltos

[Axlwolf]

Mmmm,its a bit hard to explain because i don't speak english well.
The problem appear ONLY on the hull,the tower is stable,apart for a pair of floating black disc(to me they look where it should be the compass on the fleet boat,Gato and others).It looks like the texture rotate or flip around the hull,sometime i see some black angled line.when the sub goes underwater the problem go away,but i noticed that the rudder and rear dive planes have the same problem when surfaced and when submerged.This happen only on the type AM sub.

Another small bug but this time on the Junsen.There is a hole in the hull 3d model near the left screw.
The rest is good.Thanks for your mod.

[peabody]

Mmmm,its a bit hard to explain because i don't speak english well.
The problem appear ONLY on the hull,the tower is stable,apart for a pair of floating black disc(to me they look where it should be the compass on the fleet boat,Gato and others).It looks like the texture rotate or flip around the hull,sometime i see some black angled line.when the sub goes underwater the problem go away,but i noticed that the rudder and rear dive planes have the same problem when surfaced and when submerged.This happen only on the type AM sub.

Another small bug but this time on the Junsen.There is a hole in the hull 3d model near the left screw.
The rest is good.Thanks for your mod.

Appreciate the info. I know Keltos will be glad for the extra info. We know about the disks, they will be taken care of. But I have not had a problem with the texture, have to see what is causing it.

Peabody

[keltos01]

neither have I, see the screenshots as proof.

Keltos

done for 2night, working on a decent UV map for the tower.

hole in Jyunsen B might be a small flipped texture, post pict please.

[Axlwolf]

I Dont know how to post pic,sorry

[keltos01]

ctrl and print screen then paste in a picture program, save jpg, then upload to imageshack.

keltos

[Axlwolf]

Ummm...I think i will wait for a fix :oops:

[keltos01]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9111/basicfz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Basic Texture Tower for Type AM submarine :

uploaded on filefront, just download, extract to your objects folder of the 2.9 Jyunsen B mod, load up and enjoy !

Keltos

link :
http://files.filefront.com/Objectsrar/;12215548;/fileinfo.html

[Sledgehammer427]

hey kelt, hows about you complete the mod, and then i will do up a set of skins based on that?
like, i will try to follow era paintjobs, and have like 3 or four ready?

because my computer is running out of space with all the IJN stuff i have on it.

also, love the type AM, now if only we can have a Sen Toku:hmm:

[keltos01]

forgot I had to import the image in the .dat, it's done now, just unwrap in objects folder of mod :


real link :

http://files.filefront.com/Turm+AM+1rar/;12218635;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

hey kelt, hows about you complete the mod, and then i will do up a set of skins based on that?
like, i will try to follow era paintjobs, and have like 3 or four ready?

because my computer is running out of space with all the IJN stuff i have on it.

also, love the type AM, now if only we can have a Sen Toku:hmm:
TOO BIG the Sen Toku... :doh:

Ask Peabody, he did it for the US side, try it out then decide. They weren't used operationnally as opposed to the I-13 class anyways.

Keltos

And Yes, please do the skins ! the one for the tower(s) you have to extract using S3D from the .dat, the others are already there (.dds) I'll post the templates to the Jyunsen B tower and Type AM tower later today, dds 2048 x 2048.

Keltos

Texture template link :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+B+mod+Textureerar/;12218991;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7904/tenderpw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4239/tender2xq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/tender2xq3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img366/tender2xq3.jpg/1/)

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/926/ambowfn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4779/amrightsiderr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



download and unwrap in the Object folder of my mod. This gives you a new tower with new texture, closer to RL :

link :

[keltos01]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8745/typeamsubmarinepa4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


the Tower :

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/256/towerkv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I had to flip faces on both the hull and the tower, and quite a few.. move the tower to a better position thus having to move the AA guns and crew etc.. along with the periscopes, radio antenna and such.

now it is done. :D

keltos

Download link :

http://files.filefront.com/Version+29+Jyunsen+B+mod0rar/;12220285;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5231/atsnorkeldepth2iy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/atsnorkeldepth2iy8.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img145/atsnorkeldepth2iy8.jpg/1/)

next in line is the Type AM for the snorkel.

Thanks to Peabody for the hard work on it !

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

hmmm, there seems to be a revetment on the starboard side of the tower that would be PERFECT for a snorkel...:hmm:

[keltos01]

can't wait to see it ! what do you think of the snorkel ? we will release the 3.0 version with both Type AM and Jyunsen B snorkels shortly.

I need to implement the captured 5inch gun for both subs (not have to "buy" it) and the tarmatte for the type AM.

any textures to go with that ?

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

not quite yet, still working on them, my 3d modeler has konked out lately, so im trying to find a new one (speaking of which, what do YOU use?)
and then its off to making skins work.

only a few more days and i'll get everything going again.

[keltos01]

not quite yet, still working on them, my 3d modeler has konked out lately, so im trying to find a new one (speaking of which, what do YOU use?)
and then its off to making skins work.

only a few more days and i'll get everything going again.

3D studio max 9.0 :D

Btw I'm trying to add the different Type 22 radars (both drum and stick) to the Senzori.dat, same as a real jap snorkel. all those in the version 3.0 of the mod, along with your skins ? we have a little time now ;)

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2244/v30jbtoweres5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/v30jbtoweres5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img340/v30jbtoweres5.jpg/1/)

[keltos01]

It is using Sledgehammer427's camo pattern that I modified to follow the IJN colors, midget subs were sometimes camouflaged like this, so is the I-53 it seems.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3358/ijnsnorkel5bq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8687/ijnsnorkel6yk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/ijnsnorkel6yk3.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img375/ijnsnorkel6yk3.jpg/1/)




Still needs ok from Sledgehammer427 before release.

Keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

fine by me! :up:

getting my skinning s*** back together, so i ran a test...

and i have a dark and a Camoflauged yamato... buahahahahaha!

[peabody]

It is using Sledgehammer427's camo pattern that I modified to follow the IJN colors, midget subs were sometimes camouflaged like this, so is the I-53 it seems.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3358/ijnsnorkel5bq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Still needs ok from Sledgehammer427 before release.

Keltos

Are those the colors they used? Wouldn't it be better with blues and grays rather than green and orange? Just seems to me the green and orange would stick out on the ocean. It just looks more like an 'in the woods' type camo.

Peabody

[keltos01]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8633/fig04fcp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



yeah sure, I got carried away, used to build model tanks and planes you know...

which doesn't tell me if this IJN thing could be raised or not and if so how much ?

[Sledgehammer427]

yes, i am sure it could be raised, tin that position, it wouldnt do much good...

snorkels are designed to keep the boat safe in the depths, while allowing the desiels to recharge the batteries and keep the crew breathing...

therefore, i would say a 4m rise should be good...a good test start

[keltos01]

I'd love to see a picture of the new stuff ingame Peabody ! btw does the snorkel use the normal texture or the bright camo one ?:rotfl:

[Captain_AJ]

Will There be a official date that you release any splash screens for a IJN campaign ?

[peabody]

Will There be a official date that you release any splash screens for a IJN campaign ?

There is a separate thread for the Campaign that has some pics. We get closer every day. Just takes time to change all these files especially graphics and submarines. We do run into things we don't understand and it takes a day or so to figure out. And sometimes we (me mostly) make a stupid mistake and spend all day trying to figure out why it doesn't work the way it is suppose to.

We did a few things I think you will like and tried some others that just didn't work. It coming slower than expected, but this is the first time we have tried anything like this.

Soon I hope, but we don't want to release it full of mistakes either.

But I have to hurry up and get the Campaign finished, Keltos keeps making more subs to put into it.:rotfl:

Peabody

[keltos01]

is nearly there thanks, again, to Peabody's hard work at fixing what I couldn't...

We need to get rid of the dummy snorkel, the real Type 22 AM "stick" radar is on !, and the new snorkel is there too, even though it's front to back ! (look at the RL pictures here above).

Type AM :

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2620/amv03ci6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


AM port side, btw look at the captured deckgun !

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7318/amv03portdd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


submerging :

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2779/amv03depthkf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


snorkel depth :

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4224/amv03submkh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Jyunsen B :

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5595/jbv03br0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Jyunsen B now has its own radar, the Type 22 "drum" radar equipped.

sea trials :

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/994/jbv03portrv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


to snorkel depth :

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3471/jbv03depthjq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

At snorkel depth :

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4851/jbv03atdepthwb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



and Yes I thik it looks cool grey as it is ! the snorkel off course, read today that it was a dutch invention !

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9279/fixfl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4450/fix2wg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



the .dat is on my FF page, but it will be in the version 3.0 of the Jyunsen B mod. have to turn around the snorkel now !

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

was the glitch fixed with the type AM bow wave and everything else being off the the side?

[Graf]

Very much lookin' forward to the release of the IJN campaign. Cannot wait after seeing these newest pics! :D

[keltos01]

was the glitch fixed with the type AM bow wave and everything else being off the the side?

:doh: what was that ? pictures please !

keltos

[keltos01]

Snorkel the right way around :

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2083/newsnorkelqt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/newsnorkelqt7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img60/newsnorkelqt7.jpg/1/)

close-up :

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7519/newsnorkel2au8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/newsnorkel2au8.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img352/newsnorkel2au8.jpg/1/)

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

well, you can see it in some of the first AM pics...pre-snorkel i mean.
the bow, the wake, everything is off to the side...i would put it at about 1-2 meters to the....left....i think.

[keltos01]

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9803/ijn2sheetdz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/ijn2sheetdz3.jpg/1/w638.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img356/ijn2sheetdz3.jpg/1/)

they had colors !

[keltos01]

http://files.filefront.com/UPCLocalizationtsr/;12296999;/fileinfo.html

new localization.tsr file, gives new description to IJN torpedoes and radar.

[keltos01]

Version 3.0 of Jyunsen B, Type AM, Kaidai 4 and Kaichu mod is ready to be released !


it includes :

Takao's IJN name and rank mod

Two new loading screens

IJN Torpedo mod including kaiten

IJN Telegraph mod

New detailed towers and texture for the Type AM submarine and the Jyunsen B

A stand alone Type 22 radar :

Type 22 "stick" mast mounted surface/air search radar for the Type AM

Type 22 "drum" drum mounted surface/air search radar for the Jyunsen B

A new localization file giving you new info on torpedoes (explosive power added) and Snorkel and radar.

A bigger deckgun 127 mm available right away as an upgrade.


Radar :

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7387/radardecriptiongo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Torpedoes :

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/605/torpedoesdecriptionlj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

v 3.0 Jyunsen B

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5918/v30jyunsenbkm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Flank speed ahead :

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1503/v30jyunsenbflankcn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IJN Snorkel :

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7886/v30jyunsenbsnorkeleo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Type AM loadout :

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6208/v3typeamloadoutxw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Type AM submarine


http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2197/v3typeamrq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2738/v3typeam2te5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/v3typeam2te5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img145/v3typeam2te5.jpg/1/)

Type AM tower and snorkel :

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7301/v3amsnorkelandtowerct5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kaidai 4

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6008/v3kaidai4io1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/v3kaidai4io1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img120/v3kaidai4io1.jpg/1/)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6497/v3kaidai4boa4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kaichu

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9215/v3kaichufi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/v3kaichufi7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img395/v3kaichufi7.jpg/1/)

Download link version 3.0 of mod :

http://files.filefront.com/V+30+IJN+Sub+mod+Jyunsenirar/;12299719;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

OM - Jyunsen B loadout :

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4356/omjbloadoutia9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/omjbloadoutia9.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img247/omjbloadoutia9.jpg/1/)

Orders :

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/286/omjbordersga0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/omjbordersga0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img354/omjbordersga0.jpg/1/)

OM Jyunsen B ingame :

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1166/omjbingamewb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/omjbingamewb3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img99/omjbingamewb3.jpg/1/)

OM Jyunsen B tower :




order of mods :

Operation Monsun
v 3.0 Jyunsen B mod
OM patch for Jyunsen B mod

It looks like the IJN radar isn't there, nor is the snorkel, but that might have to do with dates and stuff.

I tested it over OM 3.01 and tried the Jyunsen B only.

Know that the Jyunsen B thus visible in OM is historically accurate :yep: whereas the snorkel and radar are less.

I hope this will allow you to enjoy my boats too, players of OM, as they come as four more boats and do not remove any of OM.

Enjoy !

Keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/v+10+OM+patch+for+Jyunsedrar/;12313609;/fileinfo.html

[Graf]

Fix not working for me. Installing as per your recommendation...no joy. :(

[lurker_hlb3]

OM - Jyunsen B loadout :

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4356/omjbloadoutia9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/omjbloadoutia9.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img247/omjbloadoutia9.jpg/1/)

Orders :

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/286/omjbordersga0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/omjbordersga0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img354/omjbordersga0.jpg/1/)

OM Jyunsen B ingame :

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1166/omjbingamewb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/omjbingamewb3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img99/omjbingamewb3.jpg/1/)

OM Jyunsen B tower :




order of mods :

Operation Monsun
v 3.0 Jyunsen B mod
OM patch for Jyunsen B mod

It looks like the IJN radar isn't there, nor is the snorkel, but that might have to do with dates and stuff.

I tested it over OM 3.01 and tried the Jyunsen B only.

Know that the Jyunsen B thus visible in OM is historically accurate :yep: whereas the snorkel and radar are less.

I hope this will allow you to enjoy my boats too, players of OM, as they come as four more boats and do not remove any of OM.

Enjoy !

Keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/v+10+OM+patch+for+Jyunsedrar/;12313609;/fileinfo.html


IRT to the above mod


I did a code review of the changes made by this mod to OM and noted the following:
The base line of this mod is two versions behind OM ( v301 vs 500 )
The “v 3.0 Jyunsen B mod” overwrites the Flotillas.upc and CareerStart.upc which “destroys” the OM Campaign and makes the rest of OM v301 useless.
Overwrites CrewMembers.upc files that cause Uboats to no longer have “crewmember”, i.e. “all” crew slots are now “empty”
Overwrites the Type II interior files with ones that are “Out of Date”OM Users beware.

[keltos01]

removed the patch till I can get one to work for OM 5.01, sorry.

keltos

[Graf]

No probs mate. Looking forward to its release. ;)

Took the I-25 for a spin last night (w/out OM installed), patrolled between Austraila and New Guinea w/no success but did have fun getting chased by destroyers and a/c. Much tougher than playing as an American. :)

Tho I do wonder...is there much Allied traffic? I couldn't find a dang thing from Darwin to Brisbane cept the destroyers guarding entrances to ports. :(

[keltos01]

I just downloaded OM 500.

I will add my ships to the flotillas and careerstart .upc so as to be able to use them in the full OM campaign. Remember that a few IJN subs made it to France, and that german propaganda claimed they were operating in the Atlantic along with the U-Boots.

I can remove the crewmember.upc

I can remove the type II interrior files, as my Kaichu uses them, if yours have the same names it'll be ok.

I will submit it to you before posting if that's ok ? I only tried to do a patch because some people wanted to use my ships with OM and I had a little time to work on it.

btw the straffic is stock 1.5 here, I reused the 1.5 missions just added my ships to them, wait till Peabody finishes the Japanese campaign "Climb Mount Niitaka".

keltos

[lurker_hlb3]

I just downloaded OM 500.

I will add my ships to the flotillas and careerstart .upc so as to be able to use them in the full OM campaign. Remember that a few IJN subs made it to France, and that german propaganda claimed they were operating in the Atlantic along with the U-Boots.

I can remove the crewmember.upc

I can remove the type II interrior files, as my Kaichu uses them, if yours have the same names it'll be ok.

I will submit it to you before posting if that's ok ? I only tried to do a patch because some people wanted to use my ships with OM and I had a little time to work on it.

btw the straffic is stock 1.5 here, I reused the 1.5 missions just added my ships to them, wait till Peabody finishes the Japanese campaign "Climb Mount Niitaka".

keltos

I will be watching. You need to ensure that what ever changes / additions that you make, "DO NOT" break OM for any reason

[keltos01]

lurker_hlb3,
I understand, if I can make my subs work with OM so much the better but as we have stated they are designed to work with Peabody's japanese campaign first and foremost, any other compatibility would be a bonus for all players, if and when I get this patch ready and approved by you, you can then release it on the OM thread if you think it worthwhile. I for one would like to try OM on a Jyunsen B, as the IJN Kriegsmarine cooperated in the indian ocean.

I"ll pm you when it is ready with the download details.

keltos

[keltos01]

I'm working on a replacement 3d model for the Kaiten torpedo :

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4373/kaiten2ru0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


keltos

[I-25]

Nice Kaiten, ill post kaiten pics later :up:

[keltos01]

glad you like it ! looking forward to seeing the picts.

keltos

[gimpy117]

we need tha kaiten to come off the top of the sub somehow...

[keltos01]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9758/kaitengd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/kaitengd1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img146/kaitengd1.jpg/1/)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5438/kaiten2or7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/kaiten2or7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img80/kaiten2or7.jpg/1/)

I got it to replace the stock type 95 model for now, need to get it to replace the Kaiten torpedo that I have in my mod but don't know where it gets its 3d model from :damn:

second picture is at a depth of 5 feet, textures still that of type 95

keltos

[peabody]

I got it to replace the stock type 95 model for now, need to get it to replace the Kaiten torpedo that I have in my mod but don't know where it gets its 3d model from :damn:

second picture is at a depth of 5 feet, textures still that of type 95

keltos

Try node 251 in your Topedo.dat

SH_Torpedo_G7es_TV

That might be it.

Peabody

[keltos01]

yeah but it doesn't have a 3d node attached.... they use only 2 different models for all torpedoes, how do I create a new one and link it to that SH_Torpedo_G7es_TV torpedo?

[peabody]

yeah but it doesn't have a 3d node attached.... they use only 2 different models for all torpedoes, how do I create a new one and link it to that SH_Torpedo_G7es_TV torpedo?

Clone it. Just like a gun,sub,ship etc. Create a new one, or at least try.

The only reason I point to that as a possibility is the Kaiten in the UPCLocalization.tsr is listed at a T5Torpedo, going to the Ammunition.upc, the link appears to come from a Subtype=T_V and that looks like the right numbers for the existing Kaiten. I am not sure how the link gets from Ammunition to Torpedos.dat but I am sure someone will know.
Also it looks like an acoutic element (acoutic 92) was put in to simulate the Kaiten being 'steered' toward it's target. So that is why I suggested that may be the node of the existing Kaiten. Why else would it have an acoutic element if it's not an acoustic torpedo?

Peabody

[keltos01]

real IJN colors :

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9803/ijn2sheetdz3.jpg

[Graf]

Currently a WIP. Here a two schemes based on the color palette keltos kindly provided.

A Jyunsen Type B1 built in the Kure Naval yard.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/lp54837/SH4Img2008-11-21_104028_573.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/lp54837/SH4Img2008-11-21_104108_424.jpg

A Jyunsen Type B1 painted in the normal Type 21 camouflage of many IJN ships.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/lp54837/SH4Img2008-11-21_104515_928.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/lp54837/SH4Img2008-11-21_104540_907.jpg

[keltos01]

right.. but where are the rivets and stuff ??? odesn't look like metal anymore I'm affraid..

I don't means to be overly critical but shouldn't the paint be applied on top of the metal with all the seams and rivets showing ?

the aim of the texture being of mimicking rl hull.

keltos

[Graf]

Its just the basis mate. Nothing more than getting my colors right. I haven't done any advanced work yet such as rivets and true weathering. Just wanted your input on the colors.

[keltos01]

the colors I like. :up:
k

[Graf]

Thanks guys. Working on the rivets now as we speak. Very difficult to do right now as I'm not very familiar with the skin right now but will pass as I have more time with it. :)

[keltos01]

Graf,

The thing is , and don't get upset about it, we have made the mod what it is right now, it took a lot of very hard work and long hours, and it's not over yet...

I understand you're eager to help, and that's a good thing, so my advice would be to propose one thing at a time.

Your patch idea for OM was a good one. I made a patch for it too before and kindo got scalded by Lurker cause we modify the same files, for his mod and for ours, it has to do with the campaign.

So I decided not to pursue it.

Then you came along and offfered to make a patch so that the Jyunsen B would be completely compatible with OM, I aggreed to that, it's fine by me, this mod is made to be played.

You offer your know-how on the skinjob, fine again, but I think you should contact (by pm) Sledgehammer427 about it too. He offered to make us a skin a while back and we as a team aggreed. The deck plancking is part of his WIP skin.

I don't mind you doing another set of skins, but talk to Sledgehammer427 about it. Maybe you guys can work as a team on this, or maybe not.

It is true I like the first screens of your WIP Skinjob. But I agreed to have Sledgehammer427 do the mod skin for us when he has time to do so with all his projects !

So don't take me wrong, I like what I see, but start with what you offered : the OM patch, get Lurker's approval when it's done, then you'll be able to release it and get the credits.

If you think you have the time to do both, work on the skin as well, I don't mind having a few sets out there for people to choose from, look at all the german boats' skins like foofighter's etc.. I myself changed skins a few times when playing SHIII. I have to respect Sledgehammer's work and the fact that he asked us a while ago too.

From what I saw of his work, it goes right where we want to go : as realistic a skin as possible for the Jyunsen B for starters. I don't think it should be too shiny either, I saw the barnacles on the hull and the rust on the I-400, and it only served a few months, so the skin shouldn't reflect a brand new shiny ship.

Take a look at the pictures posted from RL on the web too.

So to summarize my thoughts, don't try and offer to change everything we've done so far, start small, I'm sure we can use your capacities to improve on the mod.

This way you won't hurt anyone's feelings either.

So now, if you wanna help, contact the teammembers by pm too. Peabody, Takao, Captainscurvy, Sledgehammer427 and Skwasjer all contributed to this mod.

Keltos

[gimpy117]

I like it a lot!!!

it looks really pretty now....I gotta get these Textures and the mod...

is there a possibility of having a mod that does not overwrite the availability of German boats as well???

[keltos01]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2060/typetc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/typetc2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img246/typetc2.jpg/1/)

I like it a lot!!!

it looks really pretty now....I gotta get these Textures and the mod...

is there a possibility of having a mod that does not overwrite the availability of German boats as well???
If you had read the first post : my mod doesn't take away the german boats at all. It adds the Jyunsen B, the Type AM, the Kaidai 4 and the Kaichu submarine to the list.

So when you play from Penang you can choose to be a german or a japanese, like in Real Life from 1943 onwards.

regards,

Keltos

[keltos01]

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http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif Re: IJN submarine camouflage pattern - pictures / drawings needed
This isn't my area of knowledge, but I seem to recall that the Japanese experimented with blacks and greys, and maybe other colours, to try to find the colour that gave the best camouflage on the surface and underwater viewed from the air, and that what worked best in one capacity wasn't so good in the other. I think this may have resulted in different colours on the upper hull and conning tower for horizontal and vertical viewing angles.






Keltos

[gimpy117]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2060/typetc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/typetc2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img246/typetc2.jpg/1/)

I like it a lot!!!

it looks really pretty now....I gotta get these Textures and the mod...

is there a possibility of having a mod that does not overwrite the availability of German boats as well???
If you had read the first post : my mod doesn't take away the german boats at all. It adds the Jyunsen B, the Type AM, the Kaidai 4 and the Kaichu submarine to the list.

So when you play from Penang you can choose to be a german or a japanese, like in Real Life from 1943 onwards.

regards,

Keltos

Hmmmm....I'll check it but I thought it did...maybe I got the Japanese career mod instead...but I do know whenever I install the Pseudo Narwhal mod over the tench mod It only allows me to use the later one...

I'll take a look at it.

oh and Ps. Your mod looks AWESOME!

[keltos01]

Brand new IJN torpedo mod version 3.2

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/286/kaiten32ro4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/kaiten32ro4.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img75/kaiten32ro4.jpg/1/)

includes :

- Animation fix for the propellers and detonator by Skwasjer

- Historical dates for the availability of said torpedo types

- Turbine torpedo : 60 knots/ 9000 m range / 661 lb type 97 explosive.

- New Kaiten model type 1 : 30 knots / 25000 m range / 3400 lb type 97 explosive. with spinning propellers thanks to Skwasjer.

- New Kaiten model type 2 : 40 knots / 27000 m range / 3400 lb type 97 explosive.

- New Kaiten texture with welded tower


enjoy !!

Keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/v+32+IJN+.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/v+32+IJN+torpedoes+incl+nrar/;12435954;/fileinfo.html)
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[tater]

http://www.aeronautic.dk/Warships%20movies.htm

thought you'd like this

[keltos01]

HOW DID YOU STUMBLE across that site ???? will look at it from home tonight.

I only had the movie Gochin (sunk instantly) from 1942 to give me a feeling of life aboard a japanese submarine during a war patrol.


THANKS

keltos

[keltos01]

I made a new texture for the Kaiten Human torpedo, it was really too shiny for me, I used the Sasebo Arsenal Blue found on Snyder and short Enterprises website :

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2762/kaitentorpnewtext3em8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/kaitentorpnewtext3em8.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img171/kaitentorpnewtext3em8.jpg/1/)

Keltos

download link to new torpedo.dat :

http://files.filefront.com/Torpedo2rar/;12448688;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2100/jyunsenbjs9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

enemy encountered !

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6339/attackerechq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


fire Kaiten type 2 !

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9701/kaitentype2nx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


CTD ???

YEP WHEN IT HIT :damn::damn::damn:

in 1945 with tarnmatte improved on (need to change all those names to IJ's) and an improved AA gun.

keltos

[keltos01]

here's the new version, no more CTD !


link to version 3.4 :

http://files.filefront.com/v+34+IJN+torpedoes+incl+trar/;12486571;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3901/causticsy222gm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/causticsy222gm7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img379/causticsy222gm7.jpg/1/)

Kaiten texture reflection problem fixed, thanks to Peabody, Skwasjer and Mikhayl who thought of the caustics !

will upload the new . dat to be slipped in the Library folder of the IJN torpedo mod version 3.4

Keltos

fix link :

http://files.filefront.com/Torpedocausticsfix34rar/;12504222;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4488/kn02589kn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3563/untenkodj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/untenkodj5.jpg/1/w740.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img83/untenkodj5.jpg/1/)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3590/campaigndw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/campaigndw2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img254/campaigndw2.jpg/1/)

In keeping with the Kaiten size subs I think I'll revive an old WIP : the Playable Ko Hyoteki.

I had made a version a while back but stopped after making it stand-alone, I figured it was a lot of work for a sub firing only two torpedoes, but it might be fun to try and do the Pearl Harbor and Sidney attacks as single missions ?

Keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

possibly have a Ko hyoteki Campaign start with the "base" being a waiting japanese sub off of a port?

[keltos01]

might do one including all the actual missions the subs took part in like Sidney, Guadalcanal, madagascar etc..

the problem is the base they start from, I don't know if we can make a base appear and disappear like a sub would, so that the sub could return to base... not that any of them really managed that in RL....



keltos

[tater]

Hey, where did you get the type 22 antenna?

May I use it? I'd like to be able to place it on some IJN escorts (actually, looks like they'd have 2, superimpoosed horns).

tater

[keltos01]

Hi Tater !

I got it at first from the Sen Toku for some antenna parts, then Peabody made a new Senzori.dat for the IJN with the antennae and the snorkels, so they now are stand alone.

There are two antennae in the senzori : one single on a mast as the first ship's type 22 had one receiving horn and a normal emitter antenna (like a modern tv one), this for the Type AM sub and a double drum type 22 antenna for the Jyunsen B and the Kaidai subs.

I don't have a problem with you using it but do ask Peabody too as we function as a team !

I'm currently trying to make afew sounds (:rotfl:) for the jap subs editing the 1942 movie " Gochin !" (means : sunk instantly ! ) which was done during I-10 's fourth war patrol.

But i didn't know the size of the task ahead of me before I started ! so it will be a few sounds till we can get someone to actually record the game's orders in japanese.

Keltos

Then the guns

[tater]

Cool, I could see it being placed on some escorts. The sns gives them whatever radar they have, but only the type 13 has an object in guns_radars.

[peabody]

Cool, I could see it being placed on some escorts. The sns gives them whatever radar they have, but only the type 13 has an object in guns_radars.

Tater,
I don't have a problem with you using it. It is in Library/GerSubParts/Sezori_Uboat2.dat and .sim. (which you don't have unless you downloaded the Jyunsen B MOD.) I made it a separate .dat so we don't accidently mess up the Senzori_uboat.dat as we add stuff for Kelto's subs. So, the dat and sim are totally separate and the stuff in there is only used by the Japanese subs so it won't overwrite any other files so it is safe to use with anything. In fact it could be left in the folder, but if you release any ships that use it of course you would have to include it with the MOD.
And it can be assigned with sns but a different entry in the ship's upc or UPCUnitParts sections can change it to something else. So if you download the Jyunsen B you will see the entries in the UPCDataGe/UPCUnitparts both in the upgradepacks.upc and the equipment.upc in case you need to use them to install it. But I'm sure you probably knew all that.
The minisub adds a .cam file to this for the short scope we needed for the 'short' sub, but you obviously don't need that for the radar.

Peabody

[tater]

Yeah, I would use it possibly via the eqp file, just needs a node to put it on.

[keltos01]

otherwise there's the stand alone type 22 radar mod on my ff page.


I post this here too cause it seems more people look at this one thread ;) :


I've been busy with the sounds mod, made a new decent music file that plays during the menus, but the other sounds I made : .ogg and .wav for the speech and the submarine sounds make the game CTD :damn: when the music file alone is fine ?


are there different types of .wav or .ogg like there are of .jpg ??????

can anyone help ?

posting the non working v1.0 of the sound mod now, but the files separately do work ?

keltos


edit :

uploaded a 'light' version of the sound mod with a new music theme from the movie "Gochin" that you hear while navigating the menus :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+sound+mod+version+102rar/;12663180;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

does anyone have a 3d model of :

English L4 CLASS :

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4064/l4un8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




Italian ocean cruising submarines



Japanese I-47 type C2 submarine (the one from the author of I-boat captain LtCdr Orita)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1020/typec2ih1.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Displacement 2184t standard, 2557t surface, 3564t submerged
Length 103.8m pp, 106.95m wl, 109.3m oa
Width 9.1m
Draught 5.35m
Machinery 2-shaft diesel and electoric motor, 11,000bhp surface, 2000shp submerged
Speed 23.5kt surface, 8kt submerged
Armament 8-53cm TT, 1-14cm/40cal gun, 2-25mm AA
Complement 101

Japanese I 52 (C3 type submarine)



I would like to complete the Jyunsen B mod with those subs, the L4 was used early in the war a bit like the type S american submarines were used. I know the japanese also bought italian submarines...

Keltos

Keltos

[keltos01]

I've been generating bump maps for the Jyunsen B and Type AM thanks to Danlisa's tutorial (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145555) (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145555%29).

Type AM :

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1733/blueho5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4108/pasteub2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


final result :


http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1522/nssamn01rp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/nssamn01rp6.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img525/nssamn01rp6.jpg/1/)

Jyunsen B :


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/120/bluejbuy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/bluejbuy9.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img440/bluejbuy9.jpg/1/)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8370/violetvt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


final :

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4001/nssjyunsenbn01ym9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


sample Jyunsen B bump map :

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4131/samplejbnd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Thanks Danlisa ! :up:

Now I need to figure out how to implement it in game :doh:

Keltos

[keltos01]

I've made two, one for the Jyunsen B and one for the Type AM submarine.

I've uploaded them on my main FF page, for those who have my mod and wanna try to get them working ;)

I've changed this :


ID=Jyunsen_B
NameDisplayable=Jyunsen B
UnitName= SS-I 25
Type=Jyunsen_B
UpgradeClass=2
UnitInterval= 1941-10-01, 1945-12-31
ExternalClassName=SSJyunsen_B
Nationality=German
CrewRanks=15
Evolution= Normal
Damage= 0
TextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Jyunsen_B/NSS_Jyunsen_B_T01.tga
LightmapTextureName=NULL; data/Submarine/Nss_Jyunsen_B/NSS_Jyunsen_B_001.tga
NormalmapTextureName= data/Submarine/Nss_Jyunsen_B/NSS_Jyunsen_B_N01.tga
MenuSilhouetteTextureName= Jyunsen_B_1.tga
MaxPettyOfficers=32 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4
MaxOfficers=6 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

no bump :

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4039/nobump2gl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[U]
Bump :

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8434/bump2ux5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/bump2ux5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img177/bump2ux5.jpg/1/)

no bump :

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9422/nobump3qg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/nobump3qg5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img116/nobump3qg5.jpg/1/)bump :

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7186/bump3iw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/bump3iw1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img356/bump3iw1.jpg/1/)

no bump map or version 3.0 of Jyunsen B mod :

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6192/nobumptx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/nobumptx0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img168/nobumptx0.jpg/1/)

Bump map or version 3.1 of mod :

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2005/bumpmaponhullgx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
AM no bump :

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4778/amnobumpgt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/amnobumpgt5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img440/amnobumpgt5.jpg/1/)

AM bump :

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9424/ambumpaw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


SEE WHAT WE MISSED ????

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7822/bumpedbw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/bumpedbw7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img410/bumpedbw7.jpg/1/)


now I need someone to figure out how to do the same to my Jyunsen B tower... Skwasjer ?

THANKS DANLISA !!!!!

Keltos

link :

http://files.filefront.com/Bump+map+Jyunsen+B+and+TyMrar/;12696523;/fileinfo.html

[skwasjer]

Have you tried adding this to the UnitParts (Gato as example)? I have no idea really. Upc/cfg is not my area of expertise...

[UnitPart 1]
ID= GatoConningEarlyWar
Type= GatoConningTower ;Can only placed on unit parts slot of this type
NameDisplayable= Start of war Conning Tower
UnitPartInterval=NULL, 1942-12-01
ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Conning_Gato_01
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_O01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= NULL
NormalmapTextureName=<path to normal map>
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= Gato_Class_01.tga



You could also try that under the [UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1] section of the sub it's own upc.

[keltos01]

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/540/bumpamiv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/404/bumpam2re9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/bumpam2re9.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img519/bumpam2re9.jpg/1/)

one can tell in the image above that the tower doesn't use the normalmap when the hull does : looks at the hull's welds now, before they were just lines, now they have some height !



Have you tried adding this to the UnitParts (Gato as example)? I have no idea really. Upc/cfg is not my area of expertise...

[UnitPart 1]
ID= GatoConningEarlyWar
Type= GatoConningTower ;Can only placed on unit parts slot of this type
NameDisplayable= Start of war Conning Tower
UnitPartInterval=NULL, 1942-12-01
ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Conning_Gato_01
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_O01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= NULL
NormalmapTextureName=<path to normal map>
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= Gato_Class_01.tga


I'll try now, it's funny though how the hull part is built one way and the tower another ? It looks as though the tower, with its texture inside the .dat, is closer to SH3 than SH4, I was wondering if you could tell me where and how to set up the normalmap (bump map) inside the .dat ?
keltos
I tried this yesterday without success :

[UnitPart 1]
ID= Turm_AM_1
Type= AMConningTower ;Can only placed on unit parts slot of this type
NameDisplayable= Conning Tower
UnitPartInterval=NULL, NULL
ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Turm_AM_1
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_AM/NSS_AM_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_AM/NSS_AM_T01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= data/Submarine/NSS_AM/NSS_AM_N01.tga
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= AM_1.tga

You could also try that under the [UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1] section of the sub it's own upc.

[danlisa]

@ Keltos01

Just thinking out loud here.

When you examined the Stock SH4 objects that already have Bump maps applied to them, did you only look at the larger objects? What about the additional objects, radar improvements, gun emplacements etc that get added at specific dates? These objects are not part of the main ship model, they should be handled by a Dat/Cfg file and should have Bump maps applied to them. Perhaps they hold a clue.;)

[keltos01]

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7309/86432374gi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/461/nobumptowereh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_O01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= NULL
NormalmapTextureName=<path to normal map>
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= Gato_Class_01.tga
didn't work.

I'll try your second way now :


You could also try that under the [UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1] section of the sub it's own upc.
@Danlisa : I'll try and look for one, but if you find it first tell me ! If you want to see for yourself I can upload my WIP 3.1 mod for you ? I'd like to release it only when the bump maps are ready for the towers as well as the hull.

you did a great job here, those subs look way better now ! :rock:

keltos

keltos

[keltos01]

Have you tried adding this to the UnitParts (Gato as example)? I have no idea really. Upc/cfg is not my area of expertise...

You could also try that under the [UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1] section of the sub it's own upc.

din't work either :damn:

btw shouldn't it be something like (see green) if there was such a link ? :


[UnitPart 1]
ID= GatoConningEarlyWar
Type= GatoConningTower ;Can only placed on unit parts slot of this type
NameDisplayable= Start of war Conning Tower
UnitPartInterval=NULL, 1942-12-01
ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Conning_Gato_01
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Gato/NSS_Gato_O01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= NULL
TowerNormalmapTextureName=<path to normal map>
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= Gato_Class_01.tga

[keltos01]

I'm trying this now in the unitsparts :

[UnitPart 1]
ID= Turm_Jyunsen_B_1
Type= Jyunsen_BConningTower ;Can only placed on unit parts slot of this type
NameDisplayable= Conning Tower
UnitPartInterval=NULL, NULL
ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Turm_Jyunsen_B_1
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Jyunsen_B/NSS_Jyunsen_B_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Jyunsen_B/NSS_Jyunsen_B_T01.tga
HullNormalmapTextureNameOverride= data/object/Turm_Jyunsen_B_1_N01.tga
NormalmapTextureName= data/objects/Turm_Jyunsen_B_1_N01.tga
MenuSilhouetteTextureNameOverride= Jyunsen_B_1.tga

;------------------------------------------------------------
; COMPARTMENTS STRUCTURE
;------------------------------------------------------------

[edit]
didn't work either.... :nope:

[skwasjer]

Keltos, try the Roster\ folder. There are currently no CFG files for the conning towers (Objects\ folder), but you probably can add them, although it may not be the right place (since it's roster related, I wouldn't know what to do with class/type)

Again, no experience whatsoever with cfg/upc files. I only give ideas...

Maybe you can also simply create a cfg in the Objects folder for the specific tower. My advice is, look at other objects in the game (like danlisa said) and see how they are set up.

Example:


[UnitClass]
ClassName=VV
UnitType=102
AppearanceDate=19420228
DisappearanceDate=19470101
DisplayName=US Victory

[Texture 1]
TextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_T01.tga
LightmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_O01.tga
NormalmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_N01.tga
StartDate=19000101
EndDate=19991231
Frequency=1

[Texture 2]
TextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_T02.tga
LightmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_O01.tga
NormalmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_N01.tga
StartDate=19000101
EndDate=19991231
Frequency=1

[Texture 3]
TextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_T03.tga
LightmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_O01.tga
NormalmapTextureName=data/Sea/NVV/NVV_N01.tga
StartDate=19000101
EndDate=19991231
Frequency=1

[keltos01]

I get it but we then have to create the other files that point to it ?

couldn't we make like a Turm_Jyunsen_B_1.upcge or something ?

to me it looks as though the develloppers never intended to use bump maps above water or did they ?

would be easier if the towers weren't a separate file but it's not the case..

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

my computer got messed up a couple weeks ago...
so kelt, you can have someone else build the skins, and when my computer works again, i will create an official set...

sorry, but fear not, I shall return!

[keltos01]

my computer got messed up a couple weeks ago...
so kelt, you can have someone else build the skins, and when my computer works again, i will create an official set...

sorry, but fear not, I shall return!

I'm quite satisfied with the current basic skins for now, I think it's better to wait for you since I know the work you do.

keltos

[keltos01]

Bump Map v 1.0 for the Type AM and Jyunsen B hulls released :


Jyunsen B :

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7822/bumpedbw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3408/bumpjbgv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Type AM :

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/404/bumpam2re9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6746/bumpam1qy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




the towers bumps is proving more difficult to implement than I thought which is why I chose to release the hull bumps patch first, kindo an early XMas gift I guess ;)

install on top of my other mods, if you install with jsgme agree to overwrite earlier files.

Keltos


for those who want those bumps on the hull :

Bump patch v1.0 for IJN Jyunsen B and Type AM submarines :

http://files.filefront.com/v+10+bump+patch+for+V+3irar/;12721453;/fileinfo.html
(http://files.filefront.com/bump+patch+for+V+31+IJN+irar/;12701548;/fileinfo.html)

[keltos01]

Units1 (Lost in 1944)ShipsI-5Year(s) Completed 1932Displacement2,243 tons / 2,921 tonsDimensions320 ft x 30.3 ft x 16.5 ftMachinery2 diesels: 6,000 hp electric motors: 2,600 hp
Speed18 knots / 8 knotsRange24,000 nm @ 10 knotsArmament 4x533mm TT fwd + 2x533mm TT aft + 1x14cm/50 cal. (20 Torpedoes) Max. Depth80 m (260 feet)Crew93 officers and men


In 3DS :

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6914/typej2copieun0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/typej2copieun0.jpg/1/w1117.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img82/typej2copieun0.jpg/1/)

basic render :

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4415/i6bowvb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/i6bowvb2.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img504/i6bowvb2.jpg/1/)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/291/i6rearyq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/i6rearyq9.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img139/i6rearyq9.jpg/1/)

I was wondering if I should make yet another sub, and decided that the type J1M was worth a try. Just to have those rear tubes again !

Keltos

[peabody]

I was wondering if I should make yet another sub, and decided that the type J1M was worth a try. Just to have those rear tubes again !

Keltos

I miss the rear tubes, got spoiled played the fleet boats with all those tubes. :lol:

Peabody

[Turbografx]

I was wondering if I should make yet another sub, and decided that the type J1M was worth a try. Just to have those rear tubes again !

Keltos
Finish the T class sub! :yep::cool: All those tubes...

[keltos01]

Type J1M submarine :

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1328/typej1mbg9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8997/i5iz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/198/i52wk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
uv map is cr.. will redo it...

http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_j1m.htm

If I build another japanese sub it'll be one with 8 forward tubes like the I-47, then we'll need to see about those extra tubes, since the german's maximum is 6.

The T class with 10 tubes works perfectly, it's the one with 11 tubes that has problems with its UZO causing CTDS because of that extra tube, so maybe we can't add extra tubes, more than originally planned by the Devs that is.

This is why I chose to build the Type J1M, since it has only 4 forward tubes and two aft like a type IX. The C2 I liked as well but it has 8 fore tubes, so the T problem will be solved when I get 8 tubes on a C2.

The icing on the cake is that this sub, I-5, had the rear plane launching catapult removed in 1940 only to install a second deckgun !

The J2 (I-6) is identical but has a catapult aft and only one deck gun and is slightly faster on the surface (20/18 knots) and slower below (7.5/8 knots).
This ship also laid mines in Australia, so it's really a two-in-one kindo ship ! I'll make it after the J1M is complete. http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_j2.htm

The good thing for me about the IJN is their imagination and the fact that they had plenty of submarine types, even if that wasn't very efficient in RL !


Keltos

Any pictures/drawings/good blueprint of I-5 J1M class are welcome !

[keltos01]

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7571/i5te7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1239/i52cp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


getting there !

A nice looking sub this one ! and rear tubes too !

Keltos

[tater]

Not I-5, but cool:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/irootoko_jr/archives/cat_7560.html

[Sledgehammer427]

I'm quite satisfied with the current basic skins for now, I think it's better to wait for you since I know the work you do.

keltos

thank you for the vote of confidance! :up: I will be back to work and testing soon!

[keltos01]

I'm quite satisfied with the current basic skins for now, I think it's better to wait for you since I know the work you do.

keltos

thank you for the vote of confidance! :up: I will be back to work and testing soon!

And you might have to do another soon : the J1M when and if it works and ceases its CTD I'm getting now...

Keltos

[keltos01]

Merry Xmas to all !


Keltos

[Ark]

Keltos, I tried ot DL your J1M from your Filefront link and got this message:

"Your download has failed. The file you are attempting to download is restricted to an access group of which you are not a member."

Has it not been released yet?

Thanks and keep up the great work!

[Sledgehammer427]

woop!
that part is prolly made so it can be released to the dev team for work and testing.

[keltos01]

yep and it still CTD I'm afraid, bad cloning I guess... :nope: I cloned a IXD2 and imported the model and texture, but made a mistake along the way ..

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2419/jyunsen1mcb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/156/jyunsen1m2ww7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/jyunsen1m2ww7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img360/jyunsen1m2ww7.jpg/1/)


IJN Jyunsen 1M version 1.0

managed to reclone it, works now, I changed the name to Jyunsen1M as it was easier to follow in the files than J1M !

Now : to move all that junk in place and get it in campaign mode (here seen in Peabody's single mission ) ;)

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4844/tower3dszu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4470/66659167fh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/66659167fh0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img95/66659167fh0.jpg/1/)

I have a little trouble with the uv map, doesn't show ingame as in 3ds... see aboce in 3ds and the previous post ingame... :damn:

also : I don't have a bridge view ???

@Peabody : posted this version for you to see, works only in single mission for now.

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9947/tower3dswf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/774/tower3dsfrontal3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7467/tower3dsfront2cs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/438/tower3dsfront3ii2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5189/tower3dsfront4ta2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

in S3D :

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8357/jyunsen1muf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/jyunsen1muf7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img230/jyunsen1muf7.jpg/1/)
the thing is it looks perfect in 3DS, I don't get why the texture's all wrong in game ?:damn:

Keltos

[keltos01]

too high on the water :

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9237/jyunsen1msternje1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8125/jyunsen1mbowcz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

correct :


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8175/jyunsen1mze5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4263/towereh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


IJN Jyunsen 1 M version 1.0

it is still a WIP, it doesn't work in campaign mode yet, and I am still to move the tubes and flak and deck gun and crew to their correct position,

missing the second deck gun

the bridgeview F5 doesn't work ?

well WIP for those who already want it !

it has an occlusion map included though :)



keltos

(http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1Mrar/;12805045;/fileinfo.html)

[keltos01]

IJN Jyunsen 1 M version 1.0 stand alone

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8175/jyunsen1mze5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4263/towereh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2962/periwt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/807/jyunsen1mharborlx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5858/towerj1mxe0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9359/tower2uu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/tower2uu8.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img129/tower2uu8.jpg/1/)

IJN Jyunsen 1 M version 1.0

in campaign mode yet, and I am still to move some things to their correct position

- she's missing the second deck gun

- the bridgeview F5 doesn't work ?

it has a new occlusion map included though :)

It includes two single missions by Peabody :

- carrier attack

- convoy attack

It also includes the IJN torpedo mod version 3.4 with Kaiten


keltos

download link :

[Sledgehammer427]

looks like you are a mere few steps away from a Kadai...

[keltos01]

IJN Jyunsen 1 M version 1.0


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3341/ijni5in1932sn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Submarine I-5 (JUNSEN-class, type I new), completed July 31, 1932.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/807/jyunsen1mharborlx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4173/towerrailnd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/towerrailnd2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img258/towerrailnd2.jpg/1/)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9359/tower2uu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

The I-5 was an experimental one-off development of the J1s (J1M class) that originally included a catapult and two watertight deck tubes located aft of the conning tower, tubes containing the fuselage and wings of a seaplane. The aircraft had to be assembled from the tubes while the submarine was surfaced, leaving it highly vulnerable. However, the Japanese believed the concept had great promise.

The seaplane provisions were eliminated in 1940, leaving the I-5 little different from other J1s.



Tonnage
2080 tons standard

Dimensions
308'7" by 29'8" by 17'8"
94.06m by 9.04m by 5.38m

Maximum speed
18 knots (surfaced)
8 knots (submerged)

Dive
to 260 feet (79 meters)

Complement
68-93

Armament

1 5.5"/50 gun
1 5"/40 dual-purpose gun

1 heavy machine gun
1 light machine gun

6 21" torpedo tubes (20 torpedoes)
Bunkerage 548 tons diesel oil
Range 24,000 nautical miles (44,000 km) at 10 knots surfaced
60 nautical miles (110 km) at 3 knots submerged.

mod :

She works both in single mission and in campaign mode. I have still to move some things to their correct positions.She has a new texture and occlusion map included. The tower is that of the I-5, although it ressembles that of the Kaidai, this tower is much smaller.

- she's missing the second deck gun (Peabody ?)

- the bridgeview F5 doesn't work ?


The mod includes two single missions by Peabody :

- carrier attack

- convoy attack

It also includes the IJN torpedo mod version 3.4 with Kaiten and the John Meeks loading screen.

Enjoy !

[edit] I modified, scaled down the huge railing, all good now..


keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+10rar/;12809156;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+10rar/;12808101;/fileinfo.html)

[keltos01]

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1554/j1m2ut1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/j1m2ut1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img68/j1m2ut1.jpg/1/)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7919/bridgeot3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/bridgeot3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img518/bridgeot3.jpg/1/)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/623/tub2dm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/tub2dm0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img518/tub2dm0.jpg/1/)


Peabody fixed a few items on this sub :

Uzo, dummy deck watch, binoculars and scopes working.

deck gun next ??

keltos

[peabody]

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/j1m2ut1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img68/j1m2ut1.jpg/1/)
Peabody fixed a few items on this sub :

Uzo, dummy deck watch, binoculars and scopes working.

deck gun next ??

keltos
Two deck guns on. Need to fix the second gun, only has one crewmember manning it right now. Nobody manning the gun in first picture, fixed in second pic, but only one crewman.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5396/jim2dg2rs5.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3123/jim2dglf1.jpg


Peabody

[Atlantis]

Those are some great looking boats, I look froward to commanding them, and the Imperial navy mod. :D

I'm a fan of the Japanese submarines, I think they are some of the nicest looking of all the WWII submarines, and thus I have a question for those making this mod. What references are you all using to make these boats? I have found it difficult to find quality images of Japanese Submarines (not that I need them for a mod or anything,) Can you folks recommend any good books or computer links for me?

[keltos01]

I-5 from the stern :

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4258/i5ym7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/i5ym7.jpg/1/w240.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img367/i5ym7.jpg/1/)
http://images.google.ca/images?q=%E6%BD%9C%E6%B0%B4%E8%89%A6%E3%82%A452&um=1&hl=en&sa=N




do a search on my nickname and you'll see all of my posts, usually when I mention something there's the link in the post.

I have a couple books : the maru special on jap subs, I boat captain, the japanese submarine fleet and WWII to name a few, then there's the web with lots of intel.

try www.combinedfleet.com (http://www.combinedfleet.com) first, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Navy (http://www.wikkipedia.com)

then :

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9131/df9b75fcsz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/df9b75fcsz3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img120/df9b75fcsz3.jpg/1/)
http://blog.livedoor.jp/irootoko_jr/archives/111413.html

and :

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6097/e168zuzc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/e168zuzc4.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img380/e168zuzc4.jpg/1/)
http://sidenkai21.cocot.jp/m426.html

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2749/j1mv12hi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



by Peabody :
- Second deck gun and crew
- Bridge and Uzo fixes

[keltos01]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1112/loadouttj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Taken from a RL picture of I-5 found in the Maru 31 and exported to SH4 ver 1.5

Notice the crew on deck, standing at attention in white uniform.

Keltos

[keltos01]

I-5 Type J1M submarine version 1.3

in harbor :

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9958/j1mv13ph5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


close up of the tub and the two deck guns :

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4496/j1mtubv13zn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


sailing :

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5620/sailingct0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


torpedo loadout :

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1112/loadouttj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Includes work by Peabody :

Second deck gun

Uzo view

Bridge view

Periscope fix

The 3d model has been improved since I found some good data in "the Maru Special - Japanese naval vessels 31", I was able to remodel the hull of the sub giving her her fore gun platform and a new railing.

The tower has been reworked according to photographs as well : unlike the Kaidai 4 and Jyunsen B, the J1M had no doors on top of the ladder leading to the tub, the handrails have been changed as well, and a rangefinder is there too now, at the back of the tub.

I have included the version 3.4 of the IJN torpedo mod with the new Kaiten model for the Layout.

I also have made a new picture for the torpedo loadout, taken from a RL picture of the I-5 sailing away with the crew standing on deck in whites.

Enjoy this mod, it is stand alone for the moment but will be included in the Jyunsen B, Type AM, Kaidai 4 and Kaichu mod when the Japanese campaign is released.

Keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+13rar/;12849706;/fileinfo.html

[Atlantis]

Thanks! I already had the combined fleet link, but rest are very interesting, and useful! I really appreciate the information.

[keltos01]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8100/occlusionwithalphacopiecq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/occlusionwithalphacopiecq1.jpg/1/w1680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img206/occlusionwithalphacopiecq1.jpg/1/)

old occlusion :
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4496/j1mtubv13zn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


new occlusion :

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2023/newocclujy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/newocclujy5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img511/newocclujy5.jpg/1/)



I noticed a thing in the game's yourbeautifulsub_001.dds which I didn't do on mine : there is an alpha channel under the 3 channels of the occlusion map image, but it has not the occlusion map itself but a copy in B/W and positive of the yourbeautifulsub_T01.dds file with a higher ratio of contrast/brightness !

This is why my models were always so shiny : they were lacking that level of details in the alpha channel !

I found it editing the UbootIXD2_001 file...

here is the new Jyunsen1M_001.dds file to be slipped in the submarine directory of mod :

http://files.filefront.com/001+files+Jyunsen+1Mrar/;12878700;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/001+files+Jyunsen+1Mrar/;12878700;/fileinfo.html)





So much to find out still...

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6334/newocclujbkt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


slip into Submarine\NSS_Jyunsen_B\ folder of mod


dl link :

http://files.filefront.com/NSS+Jyunsen+B+O01rar/;12881735;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

Jyunsen 1M version 1.4

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7721/j1mv14bbd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


New IJN Jyunsen 1M rudder :

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5421/rudderijnig4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


loadout :

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4037/jyunsen1mversion1pl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I modified the picture used in the loadout screen : it was right to left, I flipped it to left to right as it represents better the compartments under it this way.

I removed the extra torpedoes left over from the type IXD2, so now you have an accurate 6 torpedoes total in the stern room and 14 in the bow room, as did the real Jyunsen 1M.

Both deck guns now face forward as per the RL picture.

The boat now has a RL IJN submarine rudder.

All values in the Jyunsen_1M.sim now reflect RL values including maximum depth of 260 feet.

This mod also includes the new occlusion map.


The boat is available in all careers, all start times (have to check that one though ;) )


Keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+14rar/;12892244;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

intended to make :
C1/C2/C3 : 8 tubes forward
(http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_c2.htm)

Kaidai 1/2/3 : 6 tubes forward, 2 aft
(http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_kd3.htm)

I copied pasted the following nodes from the type AM submarine :


.dat :

NSS_UboatXVIII_Door01_FLM_anim

NSS_UboatXVIII_Door01_FRM_anim

NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FLM_anim01

NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FRM_anim01

.sim :

added tubes 4 and 5 and linked it to the doors in the .dat

tubes 4:
NSS_UboatXVIII_Door01_FLM_anim
NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FLM_anim01

tubes 5:
NSS_UboatXVIII_Door01_FRM_anim
NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FRM_anim01

increased storage in fore room to 17


increased storage in aft room to 4

moved the doors in the .dat to

4,88 and -0,18 for the door 01
4,82 and -0,18 for the door 02


added to the upcge file in the NSS_Jyunsen_1M directory:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 5]
ID= TorpMountB5
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube V
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FRD_anim01
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 134

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 6]
ID= TorpMountB6
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VI
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1944-03-15, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1944-03-16, 1945-02-20, TorpedoTube533Ger, T5Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault3= 1945-02-21, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T11Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FLD_anim01
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 135

modified the rear tubes displayable name to :

ID= TorpMountS1
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VII

ID= TorpMountS2
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VIII

changed the salvo in the cfg file :


[Salvo]
1=1,3,2,4,5,6
2=1,2,4
3=1,3,4
4=1,4
5=2,3
6=1,3
7=2,4
8=5,6

the loadout :

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8246/8tubesjb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


so far ... so good...



download link version 1.6 "pre Kaidai 3":

[/URL][url]http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+16rar/;12922282;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+16rar/;12920518;/fileinfo.html)

keltos

[keltos01]

it worked !

I only had to give a new id to the torpedo doors, move the nodes into place (address wise ex: node 168) and it worked !

I only hope that Peabody can make his small dials (the one I used for the Class T with 10 tubes) work with the add on.

so for now it's the Jyunsen 1M with 6 forward tubes and two aft, later it should get the 3d model of a Kaidai 3 or a C1, who knows !

Keltos

dl link :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyunsen+1M+v+16rar/;12922282;/fileinfo.html

[keltos01]

reminded by Peabody that the working sub lacked the relevant functionnal subsytem in the upcge file, I modified it to this :

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 13]
ID= TorpedoTube7
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VII
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountS1, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 14]
ID= TorpedoTube8
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VIII
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountS2, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 15]
ID= TorpedoTube1
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube I
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB1, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 16]
ID= TorpedoTube2
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube II
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB2, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 17]
ID= TorpedoTube3
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube III
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB3, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 18]
ID= TorpedoTube4
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube IV
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB4, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 19]
ID= TorpedoTube5
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube V
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB5, 1

[UserPlayerUnit 1.FunctionalSubsystem 20]
ID= TorpedoTube6
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VI
FunctionalType= WeaponTorpedo
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CommRoomTDC, 0, TorpMountB6, 1

but the attack map still show only 6 tubes when there are actually 8 useable !

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2184/attackstationjx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/attackstationjx8.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img442/attackstationjx8.jpg/1/)the tubes that are visible are all bow tubes, the stern tubes can only be selected in the torpedo loadout screen....


keltos

[keltos01]

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 1]
ID= TorpMountB1
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube I
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom, BowTorpedoReserves
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1944-02-01, TorpedoTube533Ger, T1Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1944-02-02, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T1Fat1Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_Uboat9D2_Door02_FRU_anim
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 58

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 2]
ID= TorpMountB2
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube II
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom, BowTorpedoReserves
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1944-04-31, TorpedoTube533Ger, T1Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1944-05-01, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T1Fat1Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_Uboat9D2_Door02_FLU_anim
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 131

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 3]
ID= TorpMountB3
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube III
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom, BowTorpedoReserves
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1943-05-31, TorpedoTube533Ger, T2Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1943-06-01, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_Uboat9D2_Door02_FRD_anim
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 132

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 4]
ID= TorpMountB4
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube IV
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom, BowTorpedoReserves
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1943-02-01, TorpedoTube533Ger, T2Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1943-02-02, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_Uboat9D2_Door02_FLD_anim
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 133

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 5]
ID= TorpMountB5
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube V
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FRD_anim01<- CHANGED TO FRM
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 134

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 5.WeaponSlot 6]
ID= TorpMountB6
NameDisplayable= Torpedo Tube VI
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= TorpedoTube
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkBunker=BowTorpedoRoom
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1944-03-15, TorpedoTube533Ger, T3Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault2= 1944-03-16, 1945-02-20, TorpedoTube533Ger, T5Torpedo
IDLinkWeaponIntervalDefault3= 1945-02-21, NULL, TorpedoTube533Ger, T11Torpedo
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalObjectName3D= NSS_UboatXVIII_Door02_FLD_anim01<- CHANGED TO FLM
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 135

[keltos01]

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/2295/wipkaidai3rg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3387/kd33dn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8163/reaargi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4911/bowyy1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3862/starboardpu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


WIP : IJN Kaidai 3b


Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/875/smalllightsec3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/smalllightsec3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img171/smalllightsec3.jpg/1/)

and yes Peabody, you were right : there are only 6 selection squares so far...:damn:

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8739/kd3doorscutoutqr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9919/doorscutoutim4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/doorscutoutim4.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img243/doorscutoutim4.jpg/1/)

Torpedo doors punched out !

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8065/kd3mt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


New KD3 3D model : done
New KD3 tower 3D model : done
New KD3tower texture map : done

nearly ready then ?

keltos

[keltos01]

obviously not... must have had a bad uv map -> showed up "flower garden" in game (Peabody - quote)

here's the new one, albeit a bit dark in S3D :

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8025/kd3darknl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/kd3darknl5.jpg/1/w1677.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img234/kd3darknl5.jpg/1/)

will see tonigh ingame

keltos

[keltos01]

Hull ingame :

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6200/hullingamecopieqd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/hullingamecopieqd4.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img82/hullingamecopieqd4.jpg/1/)

SH4 ver 1.2 replacing Dagon's U type hull.

Keltos

[keltos01]

Kaidai 3b model ingame :

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8554/kd3rd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3844/kd3towerdi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9752/kd3towerom6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bow :


http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9368/hullaz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


stern :

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9538/kd3sterntd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5306/kd3ik4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/kd3ik4.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img393/kd3ik4.jpg/1/)

New 3d model for both hull and tower.

keltos

[keltos01]

I made a new occlusion map and a bump map for the Kaidai 3b.

She has her own rudder, I made a new rudder model.

I have renamed/remapped all files so it'll now be known as the Kaidai 3b.

I might release a stand alone version later tonight, after a little testing that is.

keltos

[keltos01]

I added the conning tower chamber (shape of an 8) and the plane's hangar :

Real Life :

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4623/dsc02116gu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1701/jyunsenbconstruc2cp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




from stern :

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3782/dmgjyunsenbsternsy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


from bow :

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4201/dmgjyunsenbbowel1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

with the pressure hull :

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2301/jyunsenbpressurehullvt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2411/jyunsenbpressurehull2ly6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


the tower 3D model is there to give a sense of where you are, it will off course be removed from the ingame dammage model. The cylinders are based on the blueprint you can see in the Blueprint thread I posted, it comes from the Maru Special # 31.

As you see we are trying to stick to reality here !

Keltos

[keltos01]

IJN Jyunsen B, Type AM, Kaidai 3B, Kaidai 4, Jyunsen 1M and Kaichu mod v 3.3


I am currently working on it. it will include :

Re-worked submarine:

- Type AM (done)

New 3d dammage model for :

- Jyunsen B (done, see previous post for details)

- Jyunsen 1M (done)

- Type AM (done)

- Kaidai 3b (done)

new dials (recently sold on ebay, come from an actual IJN submarine):

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5865/dials1copiezk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/dials1copiezk5.jpg/1/w512.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img179/dials1copiezk5.jpg/1/)

8 torpedo tubes mod (for the Kaidai 3b)

Peabody's 8 tubes firing pannel lights fix (peri & uzo)

New submarines :

- Jyunsen 1M


- Kaidai 3b




Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5293/13211ok2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[/URL]


[URL="http://imageshack.us"]http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/461/dials1newkv9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/img206/13211ok2.jpg/1/)


I found a guy who sold actual IJN submarine gauges on ebay last week (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150320868935), so I downloaded the pictures he posted and used those (belived to be from a Karyu midget sub) to replace the gauges after I had the labels translated by Yattky before I used them.

[Yattky QUOTE] one is a pressure gauge (I can identify it by the photo 1571_1 and made Oct, 1941), and 2 gauges which show "v" and "mA" on each pannel may be voltmeters, and the gauge which shows the number 300-1400 (picture number 13e3_1) is what I cannot understand. This may be a tachometer for engine or something....[/quote]

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1359/kaidai3bsunkfj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/kaidai3bsunkfj7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img129/kaidai3bsunkfj7.jpg/1/)

[keltos01]

[quote=keltos01]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9515/ijnaapi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


working on IJN AA

based on german AA single and dual guns, changed the barrel, need to change the ammo to 25 mm and change range and stuff still.

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3610/mine2iv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1750/mine1kh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/mine1kh2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img183/mine1kh2.jpg/1/)

- Original work by Darkfish -

he agreed to let us add it to the IJN submarines mod and campaign.

took awhile to refine, but we'll soon have mine-laying missions I hope !

Keltos

[skwasjer]

keltos, I did some more research on how we can force the game which bump map to use for a model. As you know by now you can specify the bump map for hulls using configuration file. But there was no way to do this for the tower.

I found in data\library\characters\marine.dat some clues. The 'so-called' illumination chunk (I called it this way 1.5 years ago for lack of better understanding) you will find in this file many times (on materials), is used to define bump maps on the characters. I will rename this illumination chunk in a future S3D release so it indicates additional texture map (because it can be used for AO-map, specular map, and now bump map).

I have not tested if you can use it in other files, a scan of all game files indicates that this chunk is only used in marine.dat, but that doesn't mean it won't work. Go check that file out, borrow some chunks and see if you can get it to work on your tower.

http://sh4.skwas.net/temp/bump_chunk.jpg

Regards, skwas

[keltos01]

real gun :

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1769/300pxjapanese25mmdualmohi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/300pxjapanese25mmdualmohi2.jpg/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img147/300pxjapanese25mmdualmohi2.jpg/1/)


single gun :

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9855/new25singlecp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


twin gun :

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/645/new25twinkq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



comparison german single vs IJN :


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4807/new25singleandgermanee4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I detached the barrel for both IJN guns so that they might have moving barrels like the stock gun.

As those guns had very inaccurate simple sights with two circles I used the simple sight from the vierling.

info :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_25_mm_AT/AA_Gun

keltos

[keltos01]

I used two good pictures of a submarine 5.5 inch deck gun of the IJN that were scaled to the right proportions to create this new gun, the heck with the 4.7 inch DG !!!



http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6774/guncopiekm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/guncopiekm5.jpg/1/w1680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img99/guncopiekm5.jpg/1/)


Here I rotated the 3D model to check the proportions against the picture, to the right you can see the base and breach of the 20mm AA gun to check for scale against the IJN personel in the picture :


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4558/gunonpicturetl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



the finished model of the 5.5 inch gun :

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/67/5inchsingleleftjc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


and the occlusion map for the model (the thing I forgot about for awhile...) :

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/436/occlusionmapsinglefj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Keltos

[keltos01]

Occlusion map :




http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5799/single25mmoccluxl7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/single25mmoccluxl7.jpg/1/w685.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img265/single25mmoccluxl7.jpg/1/)




http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3105/occlusionmaptwin25mmru7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6537/25mmdoublegq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9712/25mmfc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sledgehammer427]

wow! beautiful work on the gun!

EDIT:gun(s)

[keltos01]

New guns acoming ...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9981/dualgunlm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Historically accurate, well at least the I-8 had it, so it was really available, and listen well this twin 5.5 inch gun pack a wallop !

the normal I-Boat gun, the single version of the one seen here is coming your way too !

thanks to Peabody who implemented the 3d model in game !

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4866/gunswd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


and :

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1585/guns2yv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3060/dualgunue5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8458/dualgun2bh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8421/kaidai3bdualdgpk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Peabody made all the gun files and I made the 3d model and the textures.

We should have shortly :

Single 5.5 inch deck gun

Dual 5.5 inch deck gun (historical on I-8)

Single 25 mm AA gun and man

Twin 25 mm AA gun and man

We will soon have all relevant IJN weapons on board.


keltos

out now :

IJN torpedo mod v 3.6 including type 89 and Kaiten 1 and 2

know issues : the early war type 89 has no wake and the Kaiten 2 doesn't yet have a dedicated model of its own.

all japanese submarine torpedoes available in this mod, including a couple experimental ones !

keltos

downlaod link :
http://files.filefront.com/v+36+IJN+.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/v+36+IJN+torpedoes+incl+2rar/;13185157;/fileinfo.html)
__________________

[keltos01]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9468/aagunstexturedng0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/aagunstexturedng0.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img16/aagunstexturedng0.jpg/1/)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9306/10452076az6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/10452076az6.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/10452076az6.jpg/1/)


on this image you can see the single 25 mm AA guns implemented by Peabody and I.

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hi Keltos,

great work at all mate !

So keep on working :up:

Greets

Maddy

[keltos01]

Single mount 5.5 inch Deck Gun, twin mount type 96 AA gun and single mount type 98 AA gun.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7783/single55dgru8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/345/single55vq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/single55vq3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/single55vq3.jpg/1/)


weapons screen :

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8350/weaponsdt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/weaponsdt7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img17/weaponsdt7.jpg/1/)




We are making the changes one by one : the deck guns and AA guns are now done along with their descriptions.

keltos

[keltos01]

14 cm/40 (5.5") 11th Year Type (Model 1922) Deck Gun

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3976/singlegunoccluzv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


a closer view :

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4585/singlegunocclu2lt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

info :
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_55-40_11ns.htm

Dual mount Deck Gun :

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7392/twinocclu1im1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/twinocclu1im1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img242/twinocclu1im1.jpg/1/)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3416/twinocclu2yr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4923/dualnewoccluxt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/dualnewoccluxt1.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img516/dualnewoccluxt1.jpg/1/)


Still, I might even think that the guns do look better without one...

keltos

[rubenandthejets]

DROOOL-awesome stuff!

Keep it up!

[Sledgehammer427]

hmmm, possibly add some sights to the weapons?

[peabody]

hmmm, possibly add some sights to the weapons?

Sledgehammer,
I assume you are talking about the AA and we are aware of it, in a mix up while doing other stuff, Keltos and I ended up with different versions of the gun (my fault) and the sight wasn't on it. Since the gun came from a ship, the 'sight' was just a hexagon shaped piece of metal, not intended to be playable. Keltos fixed that and put on a sight but then the mixup, so it will be fixed. There is a sight on the double barrel model.

Thanks for the info, this one we know about, but appreciate it when you bring these thing up so we can fix them.
Peabody

[keltos01]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4877/mixedgunslc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/mixedgunslc7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img6/mixedgunslc7.jpg/1/)

and yes, thanks to Peabody, sights are on !

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1056/wnjap13mm76mgpicpj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.combinedfleet.com/13_76.htm


Production reached 1,200 guns per month late in 1944. The magazine held 30 rounds and was similar in design to that for the 25 mm AA gun.

Elevation
With 0.11 lbs. (0.05 kg) Shell
Range @ 45 degrees : 6,560 yards (6,000 m)
Range @ 50 degrees : 7,108 yards (6,500 m)

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_13mm-76_mg.htm


This weapon is a 13.2-mm (52-caliber) Hotchkiss type, gas-operated, air-cooled, magazine-fed antiaircraft machine gun, mounted on a naval-type pedestal mount. It is fed by a 30-round semicircular magazine which fits into the top of the receiver. The gun has a shoulder stock and pistol grip. Antiaircraft sights are mounted on the gun. They are composed of a front-ring antiaircraft sight and a rear sight: the latter consists of a small vertical rod with a ball tip. This weapon is the standard heavy antiaircraft machine gun.


My IJN submarines' AA guns will be modified in the next release of the mod :

early war :

1 x 13.2 mm AA gun (if I can find/make one)

or

1 x 25 mm AA gun

then :

1 x 25 mm AA gun in twin mount.

The 2 AA guns in the tub will be reduced to only one as per RL, one mount possibility will be retained aft of the tub, on deck.


keltos

[keltos01]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8477/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg/1/w1699.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img264/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg/1/)

hmmm, possibly add some sights to the weapons?

That's done, now looking for a 13.2 mm one, is there one ingame or do I have to model it from scratch ?

keltos

[keltos01]

Sonar would appear to represent the field in which generous use was made of german assistance. The evidence of captured British euipment is much in evidence, notably in the adoption of the streamlined soound dome and the chemical recorder.
During the war a mass-production type of both hydrophone and echo-ranging
equipment was evolvedn each based on german design, with the latter being
virtually a direct copy.

Certain special application sets were devellopped, some previous to the war,and paramount among these was the successful underwater radio reception equipment using ultra-long waves.

Operationnal messages were passed through this system immediately prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.


http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7562/sonar1pj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7383/sonar2ef5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4999/sonar3ct1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5541/fathometerdi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8937/sonar4ns0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5755/sonar5rp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[/URL]

(http://g.imageshack.us/img514/sonar5rp6.jpg/1/)


[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9160/sonar6mw3.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/img514/sonar5rp6.jpg/1/)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/sonar6mw3.jpg/1/w357.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img155/sonar6mw3.jpg/1/)

USNTMJ-200B-0343-0412 IJN sonar

[keltos01]

Japanese Periscope view (I-400) :

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5237/i400periviewne7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/i400periviewne7.jpg/1/w1062.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img15/i400periviewne7.jpg/1/)

Waow ! now that I know waht the view looked like through a I-400 periscope's, I can't leave the periscope as it is now...

Now that we know what they actually saw through it we have to mod it !



keltos

[keltos01]

another view from a japanese periscope - type unknown -

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1271/228705185odi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/228705185odi9.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img511/228705185odi9.jpg/1/)

taken from a 1940 training movie.

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

:hmmm: :timeout:

I think that last scope shot there is faked.
if you look at periscope shots in general, you will see that the whole scope view isnt visible, just a little tiny bit because the camera was pressed up to the lens.

also, it's too... generic. it looks like a sniper rifles crosshair.

if it WAS a periscope, it would definately be an attack periscope.
more so than the simple crosshaired one from the I-400. it's hard to collect data from a single crosshair with no ticks to either side

[keltos01]

gochin periscope view :

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7284/gochinperiscopeviewsizexu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/gochinperiscopeviewsizexu4.jpg/1/w1680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img4/gochinperiscopeviewsizexu4.jpg/1/)



:hmmm: :timeout:

I think that last scope shot there is faked.
if you look at periscope shots in general, you will see that the whole scope view isnt visible, just a little tiny bit because the camera was pressed up to the lens.

also, it's too... generic. it looks like a sniper rifles crosshair.

if it WAS a periscope, it would definately be an attack periscope.
more so than the simple crosshaired one from the I-400. it's hard to collect data from a single crosshair with no ticks to either side


Someone find me a good picture taken through a japanese periscope please !

I know the sub squadron 20 sent a bunch of them back home to the USA to be studied....

so pictures through them must exist !!!!

keltos

[keltos01]

periscope picture anyone ?

[keltos01]

IJN Jyunse B mod version 3.4 wip

uploaded on FF because they deleted the 3.0 version ??? that s.. happens all the time there, and no notification either ?

Includes the new Jyunsen 1M and Kaidai 3B

will change quite soon when we get some other things figured out/ added

http://files.filefront.com/V+34+IJN+Sub+mod+JyunsenBrar/;13220636;/fileinfo.html

[Starforce2]

I notice a couple images that sorta look like the sen toku from stock 1.5..do you intend to provide working deck armament as shown on the stock sub? It looks like it hsa some mean light guns and AA..one thing I'd look foreward to driving one of these would be encountering fishingboats to shoot up with that quad gun.

[keltos01]

I notice a couple images that sorta look like the sen toku from stock 1.5..do you intend to provide working deck armament as shown on the stock sub? It looks like it hsa some mean light guns and AA..one thing I'd look foreward to driving one of these would be encountering fishingboats to shoot up with that quad gun.

We should have the Sen Toku in the coming IJN Campaign "Climb Mount Niitaka" that Peabody and I are doing.

The Boat you refer to is the I-14 a Type AM submarine which had a tower with a 2 plane hangar similar to the Sen Toku's.

As discussed a bunch of times the triple AA from stock are too slow and clumsy for them to be used : you get sunk before they fire at the planes.. and the Vierling was a german gun.

We have a single 13.2 mm AA gun, a single and a double 25 mm AA gun. That should suffice. We also have 2 types of IJN deckguns.

Keltos

[Starforce2]

what do you mean by sluggish? Rate of fire or the spin rate of the turret? And is that a problem with the AI or when you the player are manning the gun? Heck, I can bring a deck gun of an american sub to bear on an H8k. Came close to hitting one...besides, from what I hear, most players don't mess with planes. The guns on the stock I-14 would still be fun to have, after all, I can sink a small old engine aft with my 40mm AA gun on the american sub, so just unsing it to blast up small merchants would be cool. Maybe not consider it a priority but please do consider the stock configuration. Hoenstly, I wish I could help yea, as I've been poking around with some files and I think I can figure out some things but I'm not quite there yet. (Being able to change available guns on a sub for instance..I think I can do that)

[peabody]

what do you mean by sluggish? Rate of fire or the spin rate of the turret? And is that a problem with the AI or when you the player are manning the gun? Heck, I can bring a deck gun of an american sub to bear on an H8k. Came close to hitting one...besides, from what I hear, most players don't mess with planes. The guns on the stock I-14 would still be fun to have, after all, I can sink a small old engine aft with my 40mm AA gun on the american sub, so just unsing it to blast up small merchants would be cool. Maybe not consider it a priority but please do consider the stock configuration. Hoenstly, I wish I could help yea, as I've been poking around with some files and I think I can figure out some things but I'm not quite there yet. (Being able to change available guns on a sub for instance..I think I can do that)

There is an AI Sen Toku available here somewhere for download. To make an AI sub actually go anywhere it needs to be a ship, not a sub. My suggestion to you would be to do a search for Mikhayls tutorial on cloning a sub. Download Silent 3ditor if you don't have it and do Mikhayls tutorial. It will give you some good info about how the different files link together while you are doing it. Then you will have a sub you can mess aroung with and not affect the subs in the game.
By slow he is talking the turn rate which needs to be increased dramatically otherwise you are bombed before the guns are pointed in the right direction.

Peabody

[Starforce2]

what do you mean by sluggish? Rate of fire or the spin rate of the turret? And is that a problem with the AI or when you the player are manning the gun? Heck, I can bring a deck gun of an american sub to bear on an H8k. Came close to hitting one...besides, from what I hear, most players don't mess with planes. The guns on the stock I-14 would still be fun to have, after all, I can sink a small old engine aft with my 40mm AA gun on the american sub, so just unsing it to blast up small merchants would be cool. Maybe not consider it a priority but please do consider the stock configuration. Hoenstly, I wish I could help yea, as I've been poking around with some files and I think I can figure out some things but I'm not quite there yet. (Being able to change available guns on a sub for instance..I think I can do that)

There is an AI Sen Toku available here somewhere for download. To make an AI sub actually go anywhere it needs to be a ship, not a sub. My suggestion to you would be to do a search for Mikhayls tutorial on cloning a sub. Download Silent 3ditor if you don't have it and do Mikhayls tutorial. It will give you some good info about how the different files link together while you are doing it. Then you will have a sub you can mess aroung with and not affect the subs in the game.
By slow he is talking the turn rate which needs to be increased dramatically otherwise you are bombed before the guns are pointed in the right direction.

Peabody

Thanks. I was refering to the AI controling the gun (Man the flack gun) not the Ai controling the whole sub.

[peabody]

Thanks. I was refering to the AI controling the gun (Man the flack gun) not the Ai controling the whole sub.

Ok, misunderstood.
The turret should turn at the same rate whether AI or manned since it is set in the .sim file to turn at a certain rate. Also the Sen Toku and the AM are similar but the Sen Toku that you see in the stock game is bigger. But one note the Sen Toku in the stock game uses Triples not quads and it is only a 25mm so it doesn't do much damage even if you set it so it will fire at ships.

Peabody

[keltos01]

from the book I-400 :

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5237/i400periviewne7.jpg

found on the web :

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8672/xjapsub7i400perishotcop.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


redrawn lines :

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8672/xjapsub7i400perishotcop.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
found here :
(http://g.imageshack.us/img17/xjapsub7i400perishotcop.jpg/1/)http://www.webenet.net/~ftoon/memory/japsub.html (http://www.webenet.net/~ftoon/memory/japsub.html)
(http://g.imageshack.us/img17/xjapsub7i400perishotcop.jpg/1/)

notice how different it is from the first one I found in the I-400 book : maybe one is from the observation periscope and this one the attack scope ?

also, I read someplace that japanese I-Boats had 3 scopes, not 2..

keltos

[keltos01]

Exhaust diesel smoke coming out by AOTD Mad Max

spray effect when the exhaust gets submerged :

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3753/sprayeffect.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


exhaust smoke (look above the gun) :


http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5290/smokeaotdmadmax.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On the kaidai :

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4529/kd3bsmokeaotdmadmax.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now that's a diesel running !


Maddy great work !:yeah:

please do the other subs of my mod !

It really looks like diesel exhaust and isn't too dark ! I love it !

keltos

[keltos01]

new Kaichu loadout picture :

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3139/kaichuloadout.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/kaichuloadout.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img24/kaichuloadout.jpg/1/)

keltos

[keltos01]

actually it worked !

RL :

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5697/gochindepthgauge.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/gochindepthgauge.jpg/1/w1680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img201/gochindepthgauge.jpg/1/)

ingame one :

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2856/indicatorijn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

now I need to change the texture behind the depth arrow !

btw the arrow came along with the "japanese" periscope mod for those who tried it ;)

keltos

[keltos01]

Kanji depth label in conning tower :

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1486/depthconing.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


new depth arrow from movie Gochin :

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3654/deptharrow.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Asahi label on periscope :


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/753/asahiperiscopenh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



now I have to find where the depth gauges in the control room come from...

keltos

[keltos01]

IJN gauges in control room :


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1959/gaugesijn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


found them !

:):DL:D:D

now I still need to find the ones from the menu bar...

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1959/gaugesijn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

closer view of the depth gauge :

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7584/gaugesijn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/gaugesijn2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img8/gaugesijn2.jpg/1/)


can you believe they used the file:///C:/DOKUME%7E1/Besitzer/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpgDials_us_imperial in the skins\german\gui\layout for the gauges you see on the bar ??? how messed up is that ?

well at least now all my speed and depth gauges show kanji labels ! yeepeee!
:rock:

keltos

[thyro]

@keltos01

sub colors

could the sub hulls be a less darker (a navy gray) perhaps? - under water the red

The wood deck:

With combination of water+sun the wood gets darker as well (a brown-gray)

Cheers

[keltos01]

@keltos01

sub colors

could the sub hulls be a less darker (a navy gray) perhaps? - under water the red

The wood deck:

With combination of water+sun the wood gets darker as well (a brown-gray)

Cheers

Sledgehammer427 should improve on the skins when he gets the time.

I did my best, but you can't know it all :-?

keltos

[peabody]

closer view of the depth gauge :





can you believe they used the file:///C:/DOKUME%7E1/Besitzer/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpgDials_us_imperial in the skins\german\gui\layout for the gauges you see on the bar ??? how messed up is that ?

well at least now all my speed and depth gauges show kanji labels ! yeepeee!
:rock:

keltos

The gauges are suppose to change depending on your setting. Metric, Imperial or Authentic. Maybe it's set to Authentic, after all it is the "Imperial" Japanse Navy.:know:

Peabody

[thyro]

@keltos01

sub colors

could the sub hulls be a less darker (a navy gray) perhaps? - under water the red

The wood deck:

With combination of water+sun the wood gets darker as well (a brown-gray)

Cheers
Sledgehammer427 should improve on the skins when he gets the time.

I did my best, but you can't know it all :-?

keltos
yeah its a cosmetic thing but nice for eye catch ;)
super for all work done! :salute: look forward :D

u guys doing one thing that has been missing since the SH4 was released... playing from the other side of the fence (not as German but as Japanese)! :)

[tater]

Link for ya:

http://www.ww2shots.com/gallery/v/Weapons_+military+equipment/Navy/Japan/Imperial+Japanese+navy+Submarines+Of+WW2+-+Pics/

[keltos01]

Link for ya:

http://www.ww2shots.com/gallery/v/Weapons_+military+equipment/Navy/Japan/Imperial+Japanese+navy+Submarines+Of+WW2+-+Pics/

thanks !


how do you find this stuff ??? :yeah:

not that I don't look on google...

tell me your secret ;)

keltos

[tater]

I was looking for CHa-1 images (which I found) and saw subs. When I used to see IJN subs, I ignored them. Now when I see anything IJN SS related, I know someone who wants it, so I mark it and post :)

[keltos01]

I was looking for CHa-1 images (which I found) and saw subs. When I used to see IJN subs, I ignored them. Now when I see anything IJN SS related, I know someone who wants it, so I mark it and post :)

thanks man ! if ever you look for anything let me know.

keltos

[Mikemike47]

Is this mod released yet to the general public? Filefront says it has restricted access.
http://files.filefront.com/V+35+IJN+Sub+mod+JyunsenBrar/;13380325;/fileinfo.html/4/

[keltos01]

not yet nut the version 3.4 is on my main FF page.

3.5 will be released when I get the exhaust smoke for all boats from AOTD Madmax
in the next few days hopefully.

keltos

[keltos01]

I made a new rudder for both the type AM and the Jyunsen B so that the top rudder moves like on the Kaidai 3b and the Jyunsen 1M.

Peabody is finishing up the gun mod which will include 3 AA guns and 3 Deck guns (2 of which are new 3d models)

The latest set of torpedoes is already inthere...

near release then !

keltos

[keltos01]

new rudder Type AM and Jyunsen B :

Type AM rudder :

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6563/newrudderam.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newrudderam.jpg)

Jyunsen B rudder :

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1436/jbruddernew.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jbruddernew.jpg)


turning west :

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2503/jbrudder2.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jbrudder2.jpg)

from the stern :

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6079/jbrudder3.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jbrudder3.jpg)


keltos

[tater]

http://blog.drecom.jp/hinemosu/img/118/DSC03116.jpg

[keltos01]

http://blog.drecom.jp/hinemosu/img/118/DSC03116.jpg

YATTA !!!!

found the real deal !!!


http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1839/022xrh.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=022xrh.jpg)

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7077


Major Walter Schmidt : shot with Canon IXY DIGITAL 900 IS (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+IXY+DIGITAL+900+IS&make=Canon) at 2009-03-09

Kaiten Typ. 10 (prototype)
note the small size-must have been hell in there not to mention the fact that you were facing certian death.....
the latter 2 fotos show the periscope of the kaiten and what it looks like to look inside.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5493/periscopekaiten10protot.jpg
with reticle redrawn


what the guy in your picture probably saw !

keltos

[keltos01]

japanese reticle in game thanks to Hitman

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2046/japreticle.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japreticle.jpg)


now the periscope head isn't the same as in the japanese movie from 1941...

but the reticle is real !

the view doesn't change yet when you zoom.

keltos

[tater]

I had posted a few links, but SS went out to lunch and it never posted.

Hmmm.

BTW, when you are lookig for japanese stuff, try loading up google language page, then type the search into the text field and convert to japanese, THEN copy that, and do your search using japanese. You find things you'd never see otherwise.

[keltos01]

I had posted a few links, but SS went out to lunch and it never posted.

Hmmm.

BTW, when you are lookig for japanese stuff, try loading up google language page, then type the search into the text field and convert to japanese, THEN copy that, and do your search using japanese. You find things you'd never see otherwise.

I did, a little, but it's tedious work too..

keltos

[keltos01]

inside I-47 :

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3154/insidei47low.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=insidei47low.jpg)


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2281/insidei47low2.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=insidei47low2.jpg)

Ships of the world - history of japanese submarines - 1993, 37, n°469, p70-71

[keltos01]

inside I-58 :

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/183/insidei58low.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=insidei58low.jpg)

Japanese Naval Warship Photo Album - Submarines and submarine depot ships - edited by the Kure Maritime Museum, 2005, p. 41.

[keltos01]

inside I-69:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/475/insidei69blow.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=insidei69blow.jpg)
Ships of the world - history of japanese submarines - 1993, 37, n°469, p55

[rubenandthejets]

Wow! You're going to break that scanner!
I'm going to look for some more books Saturday....wish me luck.

[keltos01]

Wow! You're going to break that scanner!
I'm going to look for some more books Saturday....wish me luck.

All the luck in the world :yep: !

Actually I take photographs of the pages, pressing the book against a scanner's window damages them, I have too much respect for books to do that !

I think I can mod the 3D model of the periscope, given all the angles seen here, I'll try anyways.

Keltos

[keltos01]

IJN periscope Type 88 periscope :

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5762/scopenutswheels.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scopenutswheels.jpg)


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/238/scopenuts2.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scopenuts2.jpg)


http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5528/scopenuts.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scopenuts.jpg)


I intend eventually to replace the german periscope(s) with proper Type 88 periscopes.

This is a WIP, it needs more nuts and bolts ;)

keltos

[keltos01]

type 88 periscope, well and lift :

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http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9186/peri.jpg
[URL="http://www.imagehosting.com/"]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2424/pipingmodeif.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2262/pipingmodeif2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

This is taken from the Type II interior which is used in the Kaichu submarine.

There is a new periscope, its lift with two pulleys, and a new periscope well.

Will check ingame later,

Keltos

[Hitman]

Some interesting details here....

First of all I see that in the compass rose of japanese vessels the same funny internal wheel partition in 1-10 is used as in the classic german Anschutz compass, a division I also have seen recently in a soviet submarine's compass. This can be well seen in the "Interior of I-58 picture", on the compass in the wall up behind the officer at the scope. I can't explain yet in detail why they divided it like that instead of doing it in 0-360º, though I suspect why.

In any case, I did recently a mod for SH3 slide out compass that also features that curious internal compass partition, so feel free to use the graphics for your mod if you are interested: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=148239

Now on to the scopes:

You seem to be modelling two different types of scopes, and you can notice on them something I already commented last week. One of the scopes is binocular, and the other is monocular (As in the I-58). In this last one there seems to be a rounded plate below the eyepiece that protudes from the scope, and I would bet that this is a wiz wheel for a split-prism stadimeter, like currently seen in SH4. Now, what I already said is that binocular scopes sacrifice the interior additional lenses needed for the stadimeter in favour of the additional lenses needed for the binocular view. This seems to be confirmed here, as the monocular scope has the rangefinder, whereas the binocular one clealry doesn´t :up:

[keltos01]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3986/uboat18cttbd1.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
included in the IJN periscope mod version 1.2, look at the compass it's from the L type training movie ;)

quote=Hitman

Some interesting details here....

First of all I see that in the compass rose of japanese vessels the same funny internal wheel partition in 1-10 is used as in the classic german Anschutz compass, a division I also have seen recently in a soviet submarine's compass.
if so we could then get better pictures of them as I have a russian submarine foxtrott close to home (120 miles)

This can be well seen in the "Interior of I-58 picture", on the compass in the wall up behind the officer at the scope. I can't explain yet in detail why they divided it like that instead of doing it in 0-360º, though I suspect why. radians ?
the division on the scope, as seen in the kaiten here is in degrees :
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3438/kayriuscopelow.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)[/URL]

In any case, I did recently a mod for SH3 slide out compass that also features that curious internal compass partition, so feel free to use the graphics for your mod if you are interested (see above : I already took the picture from the Ltype movie ;) ): [URL="http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=148239"]http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=148239 (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

Now on to the scopes:

You seem to be modelling two different types of scopes,
am I now ? (smartass comment ;) )
and you can notice on them something I already commented last week.


One of the scopes is binocular, and the other is monocular (As in the I-58).
ok

In this last one there seems to be a rounded plate below the eyepiece that protudes from the scope, and I would bet that this is a wiz wheel for a split-prism stadimeter, like currently seen in SH4.
can you explain further what that does ? I'm novice here...

Now, what I already said is that binocular scopes sacrifice the interior additional lenses needed for the stadimeter in favour of the additional lenses needed for the binocular view.

This seems to be confirmed here, as the monocular scope has the rangefinder, whereas the binocular one clealry doesn´t :up:[/quote]
can you post pictures with comments on them please ?

keltos

[rubenandthejets]

Mails' in! Good news Keltos san! Check your mailbox!

[keltos01]

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3154/insidei47low.jpg

Translation by Rubenandthejets :

Sorry, some problems as the left most character is cut off.

#1 (top left) This is the command room of I47. Note the very cramped conditions. At the periscope is the ship's second captain (either leftenant junior grade or commander) Suzuki Masayoshi. In this rare picture you can see many details of the periscope, including the cables and how the periscope is mounted within the room. Note the second viewing eyepieces for night time use.

#2 (mid left) This is in I47, and is possibly the radar room as the room is very narrow and has a tight curvature but could possibly be the radio room because this room is next to the command room. A Type 22 conical radar was mounted in the bow of the ship in accordance with the standard theory of radar use at the time. This radar has a diameterof (X) centimeters and could detect large ships at 35,000 meters and small ships at 17,000 metes.

#3 (bottom left) Crew operating air vent controls inside I47. The two pipes at the top of the picture carry the air. The ship has possibly been damaged and the vents are being closed to prevent flooding. You can see the handles on the wheels to allow them to be turned quickly.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/475/insidei69blow.jpg

I69's command room, showing Captain Watanabe at the periscope. As the photographer is on the ship the periscope is probably the primary daytime periscope.
Twisting the handles raises or lowers the periscope. Captain Watanabe was in command until Showa 18, April and was in charge o the Hawaii to Solomons mission. He became the captain of I40. He went down with his ship in the middle of the Pacific in November, Showa 18.


I69 Front torpedo room. This sub has Number 88 Type 3 tubes. On the right side you can see the air pipe for firing the torpedos. Above the tubes the crew use the display to read the required settings for each torpedo. Kaidai Type 6A had four forward tubes and two stern tubes. The Number 88 tubes were very heavy and bubbleless, and when shooting torpedos with sea water there were many problems (something about the pistons?) A new type, Number 95, was developed.

I69's secondary engine room, in the stern of the ship. It always works with the main engine. It has a maximum potential of 8 hours of operation. In the rear of the picture you can see the air compressor, which is needed to clear the ballast tanks. The compressed air is stored under the floor. The ship has two compressors in case there are problems with one.

LAST ONE
This is the control room of I69, as seen from the secondaryengine room. Under the floor of this room is the electrical room with two electric machines (generators?) with 900 horse power. Controls for the electrical systems are on both panels. The ship's speed is controlled from this room. The ship is moving to attack so the two white uniformed crewmen at the control panels are listening to and carrying out orders.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4304/dsc0016.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

(72267) Inside I58 in Autumn of Showa 20 (1945) before being handed over to the US Navy. This picture shows the periscope.
(72268) Inside I58 in the Autumn of Showa 20 (1945) before being handed over to the US Navy. This picture shows the forward torpedo rooms.

Thanks to Rubenandthejets for this translation.

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First of all let me say thanks for all this stuff. Finally another point of view on this war! lso i love the design of these submarines. Thanks to the links yuou posted here i've seen so many pics. Beautiful....

Then i must ask if the package is ready for use with JSGME. Because i tried it last night and nothing happened. I suppose it's my fault, but i had to extract the package in the MOD folder and then activate it right ??

EDIT:

It was infact my fault... Btw great work again. I'm really impressed. Btw do you think there will be the possibility to use this mod and his upcoming campaign with a Realism supermod like RFB or others ??

Keep it up!

[keltos01]

new dl link for the version 3.4 of the mod :

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1e856d1e47461c0036df4e8dca141969e04e75f6 e8ebb871

[keltos01]

IJN equipment :

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/815/ijnequipment.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ijnequipment.jpg)



type 88 periscope :

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6711/peritypxviii.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peritypxviii.jpg)


Kaidai :

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9536/kaidaiaa.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaidaiaa.jpg)


13 mm AA gun :

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6375/13mmaa.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13mmaa.jpg)

Jyunsen B tub :


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8909/25mmdoubleaa.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25mmdoubleaa.jpg)



Jyunsen B observation periscope

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8571/perijb.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=perijb.jpg)


Periscope type 88 view (degress correct at low magnification)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2382/perijbattack.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=perijbattack.jpg)

[keltos01]

Conning tower gauges :

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7417/ijnctgauges.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ijnctgauges.jpg)



Type 95 mod 1 torpedo :

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2092/type95mod1.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=type95mod1.jpg)

Type 89 torpedo :

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3905/type89.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=type89.jpg)

[keltos01]

trying to improve the DG

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3511/55inchbrass.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7923/55inchstockwheels.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4505/55inchbasebrass.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)


changed the barrel and the breech as separate 3d models

stock has a goo new uv map now (might make the wheels brass ;) )

made a new occlusion map for the breech 1024x1024

edited the 55inch single.dat

-> added a stock 3D model and nodes
-> separated the barrel itself (then the breech might not recoil)

created a new occlu for the barrel and one for the stock

added a texture node for the barrel

made a new 55inchbarrel texture

made a new 55inchstock texture with brass wheels

made a new base uv map

made a new base texture dds

made a new base occlusion map

keltos


[edit] S3D does not look in the texture directory but the .dat's directory for the texture !!!

[keltos01]

New 5.5 inch Deck Gun :

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7960/wholegunbrass.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

keltos

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Seems huge! submarine BB stuff! ;)

[keltos01]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5930/5inch.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

5.5 inch is 140 mm ...

[img=http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5412/dual.jpg] (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

Dual 5.5i nch

keltos

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Fantastic armament...:o

That would completely substitute torpedoes for unarmed merchants attacks; a good deal!

[keltos01]

base done :

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2890/28086588.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28086588.jpg)

http://img10.imagehosting.gr/out.php/i541403_guns.jpg (http://imagehosting.gr)

[Hitman]

Is that a stereoscopic rangefinder I see in the rear side of the bridge? Interesting :up:

[keltos01]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8702/gunscopy.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gunscopy.jpg)


all guns are ready !


@ hitman : yes indeed it is ! maybe we could find a way to animate it ? raise it when using the Deck Gun maybe ?

keltos

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I wonder what they were thinking projecting a sub with a stereoscopic rangefinder... :doh:

[Hitman]

@ hitman : yes indeed it is ! maybe we could find a way to animate it ? raise it when using the Deck Gun maybe ?


It doesn't raise, it either is permanently fixed to the pedestal or placed there by the crew once surfaced. You could however link it to the UZO camera, because it works based on a similar principle (Though you don't need to input mast height or such, and the split images are horizontally displayed). But the UZO is the closest thing you'll get in SH4 to how a stereoscopic rangefinder works.

[keltos01]

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5935/2034ww2shotsnavy.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2034ww2shotsnavy.jpg)http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9051/2031ww2shotsnavy.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2031ww2shotsnavy.jpg)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8021/2032ww2shotsnavy.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2032ww2shotsnavy.jpg)
http://www.ww2shots.com/gallery/v/Weapons_+military+equipment/Navy/

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In first pic seems that AA guns were "retractable" in certain classes!:arrgh!:

[keltos01]

Only on the late war Sen Taka class electric boats. Their streamlined hulls made for very good underwater performance too. They were intensively studied by the US after the war.

keltos

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Looks lika a XXI copy...
http://www.combinedfleet.com/HA-201.jpg

[keltos01]

no copy, but a better submarine ! :yep:

now off for a week of skiing !

keltos

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no copy, but a better submarine !
Really?? Now i want to know more...
now off for a week of skiing !
One serpentina for me plz! have a good time!:up:

[tater]

http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/SeaWar/25/Draw/09.jpg

http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/SeaWar/25/Draw/20.jpg

[keltos01]

http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/SeaWar/25/Draw/09.jpg

http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/SeaWar/25/Draw/20.jpg

Thanks Tater ! again ;)

I noticed too, in the recent addition to my sub library (thanks to Rubenandthejets) that the Kaiten model I made was actually a type II and not a type I kaiten.

This will be fixed when I get the time, untill then both Kaiten will share the same 3D model.

If you ever find detailed blueprints such as these of the 5.5 inch deck gun, I'm more than interrested since I made my model from photographs only.

keltos

[keltos01]

I made a new damage model for the Jyunsen B sub, it's on my main FF page, just slip in the sub's directory.

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7291/longwakes.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=longwakes.jpg)


now that looks more like real wakes ;) seen in Webster's torpedo test mission (which I use a lot :) surfaced 5'' and got shot to hell !)

keltos

[keltos01]

problem as seen by Peabody :

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3703/damagejb1.jpg

fixed in 3ds :

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5913/damagez.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=damagez.jpg)

new 3d damage model :

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7388/jbdammod3d.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jbdammod3d.jpg)

upgraded the damage model and the 3d damage model for the Jyunsen B submarine, unrar and slip in the Jyunsen B submarine directory of the 3.4 mod.

d/l link :
http://files.filefront.com/NSS+Jyunsen+Brar/;13654879;/fileinfo.html

keltos

[keltos01]

I am polishing up the new I-Boat Damage Model - Jyunsen B damage model, the only areas modified were the spheres and boxes, and I added one new zone copied from Observer's for RFB : the bottom zone, which allows you to sit out a dc attack on the ocean"s floor.

keltos

[keltos01]

after two attacks :

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3415/testibdmjb.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testibdmjb.jpg)
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I added one new zone copied from Observer's for RFB : the bottom zone, which allows you to sit out a dc attack on the ocean"s floor.

This means we could also "make touch" on the seafloor to evade escorts or...?

[keltos01]

This means we could also "make touch" on the seafloor to evade escorts or...?

It is what Observer intended, and since I saw numerous reports that it actually was the case in the war, yes you can try and sit it out on the bottom :yep: when there's one that is ;)

after 4 attack :

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3415/testibdmjb.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testibdmjb.jpg)

engines still there Peabody !

keltos

[keltos01]

All the needed zones have been added to the Jyunsen B :

[05-05]
moved the damage boxes for the torpedo tubes to their actual location.
decided to use Observer's zones.cfg so as to be compatible in the future.
ADDED SPHERES TO :
- BACK PLANES
- RUDDER
_ PROPELLER
_ DG
_ FLAG
_ snorkel
_ peri 002
_ peri 002
ADDED BOX TO :
- DG
_ FLAG
_ snorkel
_ peri 002
_ peri 002
_ UZO
_ 139=GHG Hydrophone Receivers

changed armor in zones.cfg :

[DieselEngine1] Armor Level=2.0 ;1.0
[ElectricEngine1] Armor Level=2.0 ;1.0

left the other 2 at Armor Level=1.0 in the hope of not always having all my engines destroyed...

LINKED :

THE COMPRESSOR TO ZONE #57 IN JB.ZON INSTEAD OF -1

THE DG TO TO ZONE #228 5STERN DG INSTEAD OF -1

VERIFiED THAT ALL ITEMS IN THE UPCGE HAVE A ZONE :
-> ADDED :

# 198 Jyunsen_BGunS
#60 Stern Dive Planes Transmission
#118 Rudders Transmission
# 33 Starboard Bow Dive Plane Transmission
#210 Port Bow Dive Plane Transmission



I still have to check my JB file as if recently caused a CTD when trying it out. might be that extra bottom zone, which I'm not sure if it has to be added to any other file than zones.cfg.

Anyways, I will try and use Observer's zones.cfg in the hope of maybe someday being compatible with RFB.


keltos

[keltos01]

remade the boxes and spheres from scratch, didn't add anything this time around, hope it doesnt ctd

keltos

[keltos01]

The work has begun !

Japanese I-47 type C2 submarine (the one from the author of I-boat captain LtCdr Orita)

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3821/i47.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1020/typec2ih1.gif (http://imageshack.us/)
Displacement 2184t standard, 2557t surface, 3564t submerged
Length 103.8m pp, 106.95m wl, 109.3m oa
Width 9.1m
Draught 5.35m
Machinery 2-shaft diesel and electoric motor, 11,000bhp surface, 2000shp submerged
Speed 23.5kt surface, 8kt submerged
Armament 8-53cm TT, 1-14cm/40cal gun, 2-25mm AA
Complement 101

I have moved the stern torpedo room to the front and upper side of the sub, as those that had 8 torpedo tubes had two separate and above one another torpedo rooms.

I am directly working on the damage model so as to include it in the 1.3 version of the IBDM. The .sim has already been altered, the model is nearly ready with a new rudder, the conning tower has been modified accordingly.

Gosh I wanted to drive that sub ever since I read LtCmdr Orita's book "I-Boat Captain" !

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4062/typec2.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=typec2.jpg)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4062/typec2.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=typec2.jpg)


had to redo it since I got ctd, doing it stand alone first, then I'll add it to the JB mod with the others.

keltos

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Looks great! It's an impression of mine, or you've put on new textures ??

[keltos01]

Looks great! It's an impression of mine, or you've put on new textures ??

no, it's the kaidai 3b textures, and since the sub is bigger (109 m) but mostly longer they don't show right, and I need to fix the hull/tower junction too, but I like it, a good start, but as always my first version ctd.. too many changes at once I did..

so I used the stand alone KD3b and replaced the model, now I have to rechange the rudder, add the kaiten, move the aft tubes to the front, change the boxes etc...

I haven't heard from Peabody in a few day, I'm getting worried... :(

keltos

[NEON DEON]

I like the new Hover gun.:DL

[keltos01]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4717/c2s3d.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2s3d.jpg)



I had ctds with the first version as always... it seems modding is like making crepes : I always undercook the first one..

anyways, here it is in s3d, with the Kaiten on deck and their own textures. And of course, the Hover Gun ;)

I still need to move the tubes etc..

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7926/c2copy.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2copy.jpg)


Jyunsen_C2 stabd alone :

still some issues :
torpedo doors
renaming all links to Jyunsen C2
DG needs moving down a bit
no type 22 drum radar

but it works !

download :

http://files.filefront.com/IJN+type+C2+v+17+0519rar/;13781049;/fileinfo.html


enjoy untill the campaign comes out !

keltos

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Still a beautiful fish... :up:

[keltos01]

The Behemoth I-400 has come to the Jyunsen B mod (WIP)

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9721/behemoth.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=behemoth.jpg)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/414/issues.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issues.jpg)

then there's still that tarnmatte problem even though I cloned the T01 files into T01T...and a few other issues like guns, crew etc..

but hey ! now we have them all in campaign :yep:

Jyunsen B
Jyunsen 1M
Kaidai 3b
Kaidai 4
Type AM
Jyunsen C2
Sen Toku

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6408/51284607.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51284607.jpg)


boy do I love those 8 fore tubes !!!

keltos

[keltos01]

second attack :

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1272/622nd.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=622nd.jpg)

damaged but still there !

thanks Polyfiller I think that might've done it :)

keltos

6th attack :

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4984/626thattack.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=626thattack.jpg)

:bouncedr:


ok now I can try and set 4 tubes per torpedo room, set the stern torpedo room to take torps from the bow bunker and set them up on the bow one on top of the other like in RL and like in the Sen Toku (which has since been added to the Jyunsen B.. v3.9.2 mod 8) )