[Wanted?] Map Colour Mod

Nisgeis · 09-05-08, 01:07 PM

EDIT: If anyone is looking at this and wondering where the maps are, it's because this is the WIP thread, there are two release threads:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141812 for U.S. Subs
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141977 for U-Boats, but works with U.S. Subs as well.

Orginal message:

Hello fellow subsimmers. I find the pastel shades of the standard map a bit hard to discern the gradients. Also there's no terrain height info with which to navigate by. I think nautical maps are generally only concerned with the depth of the ocean, not the height of the land, but with points of departure being used to plot departutre courses at the start of patrol, they must have used maps of the land that showed elevation as well as the sea depth?

Anyway, is there any interest in a mod that changes the map's default colours? If so, what would you want them changed to?

Here's the standard map:

And here's what a new map could look like, note that height information has been added and the depth information is clearer:

Comments please!

Egon01 · 09-05-08, 01:25 PM

I like the colors, the normal map is to gloomy for me and for sure I will download it when you finish it

Good job.

ivank · 09-05-08, 02:06 PM

love it

cdpca · 09-05-08, 02:12 PM

That's just great!

Nisgeis · 09-05-08, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I like the elevation but the depth colours are too flashy IMO.

Suggest a colour scheme? What would period be? I have a feeling that pastel wasn't it.

DeepIron · 09-05-08, 03:06 PM

You might try cutting your blue colors with about 20-30% grey just to tone them down a bit...

Nisgeis · 09-05-08, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepIron

You might try cutting your blue colors with about 20-30% grey just to tone them down a bit...

Cutting with grey, would simply mean adding more red colour, I'll give that a try.

What about the terrain elevation colours though? Yellow to dark brown is OK, or should it be yellow to dark green?

Carotio · 09-05-08, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepIron

You might try cutting your blue colors with about 20-30% grey just to tone them down a bit...

Cutting with grey, would simply mean adding more red colour, I'll give that a try.

What about the terrain elevation colours though? Yellow to dark brown is OK, or should it be yellow to dark green?

Me likealot

Though, I agree with the constructive criticism:
reducing the contrast of the ocean colours a little would do fine.
The way the terrain colours are presently is fine with me, but it's your call.

peabody · 09-05-08, 04:23 PM

Could you do polka dots?

I like the brown tones. I think the only part that catches my eye (and it may be my monitor) the water seems a little too "purple". Edit: I mean in the darkest parts, not overall.
Peabody

STEED · 09-05-08, 04:30 PM

A vast improvement.

swdw · 09-05-08, 04:55 PM

I dunno. I think the devs got it pretty close

http://historicalresources.wordpress...-theater-maps/

Here's another 1942 map that was "top secret" at the time.
http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfiel...gatabu/map.jpg

Try googling WWII "nautical chart" in images for more

DS · 09-05-08, 06:56 PM

I like the land effects, though they may not be historically accurate. That said, the nautical charts I've seen tend to use progressivly darker blue the SHALLOWER the water gets. Deep water areas tend to be white.

09-05-08, 07:12 PM

Love the idea of changing up the chart coloring. I spend a lot of time in RL working in marine navigation, and if you need any input, I would be glad to help.
An example of "modern" chart coloring is here:

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/18721.shtml

Most charts stick to the pastel shades because they are still discernable under red or blue lighting, which was commonly used to preserve night vision. Many different shades of blue to signify depth would wash out under blue lighting, which is why deeper water is white on modern charts.

Not sure if anyone is interested or if I'm just babbling. Just in case you wanted to know.

cgjimeneza · 09-05-08, 08:34 PM

I hope you also do the Atlatic Ocean for those of use that have two jobs (Nimitz/Doenitz, pls dont see this LOL)

Great Idea!

BTW, expect me to do more posts... Im a torpedo man, not a medic

Ivan Putski · 09-05-08, 11:40 PM

I also like the land effects, a real improvement over the stock in game map, hope you work out a solution for the ocean colors. Puts

09-05-08, 01:07 PM	#1
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	[Wanted?] Map Colour Mod EDIT: If anyone is looking at this and wondering where the maps are, it's because this is the WIP thread, there are two release threads: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141812 for U.S. Subs http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141977 for U-Boats, but works with U.S. Subs as well. Orginal message: Hello fellow subsimmers. I find the pastel shades of the standard map a bit hard to discern the gradients. Also there's no terrain height info with which to navigate by. I think nautical maps are generally only concerned with the depth of the ocean, not the height of the land, but with points of departure being used to plot departutre courses at the start of patrol, they must have used maps of the land that showed elevation as well as the sea depth? Anyway, is there any interest in a mod that changes the map's default colours? If so, what would you want them changed to? Here's the standard map: And here's what a new map could look like, note that height information has been added and the depth information is clearer: Comments please! __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank. Last edited by Nisgeis; 09-21-08 at 02:08 PM.

09-05-08, 02:06 PM	#3
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	love it __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

09-05-08, 02:12 PM	#4
cdpca Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Estes Park, Colorado Posts: 19 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	That's just great! __________________ I don't know what your talking about Mr. Cartwright,....do you sir? "Kraut Mueller" Windows Vista Ultimate Core2Duo3.00GHz 2.00 GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce9800GT

09-05-08, 03:06 PM	#6
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You might try cutting your blue colors with about 20-30% grey just to tone them down a bit... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

09-05-08, 04:23 PM	#9
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Could you do polka dots? I like the brown tones. I think the only part that catches my eye (and it may be my monitor) the water seems a little too "purple". Edit: I mean in the darkest parts, not overall. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2. Last edited by peabody; 09-05-08 at 04:50 PM.

09-05-08, 01:25 PM	#2
Egon01 Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 101 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I like the colors, the normal map is to gloomy for me and for sure I will download it when you finish it Good job.

09-05-08, 04:30 PM	#10
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	A vast improvement. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-05-08, 04:55 PM	#11
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I dunno. I think the devs got it pretty close http://historicalresources.wordpress...-theater-maps/ Here's another 1942 map that was "top secret" at the time. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfiel...gatabu/map.jpg Try googling WWII "nautical chart" in images for more __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10 Last edited by swdw; 09-05-08 at 05:15 PM.

09-05-08, 06:56 PM	#12
DS Planesman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 185 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I like the land effects, though they may not be historically accurate. That said, the nautical charts I've seen tend to use progressivly darker blue the SHALLOWER the water gets. Deep water areas tend to be white. __________________

09-05-08, 07:12 PM	#13
Bosn Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nisgeis Love the idea of changing up the chart coloring. I spend a lot of time in RL working in marine navigation, and if you need any input, I would be glad to help. An example of "modern" chart coloring is here: http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/18721.shtml Most charts stick to the pastel shades because they are still discernable under red or blue lighting, which was commonly used to preserve night vision. Many different shades of blue to signify depth would wash out under blue lighting, which is why deeper water is white on modern charts. Not sure if anyone is interested or if I'm just babbling. Just in case you wanted to know.

09-05-08, 08:34 PM	#14
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	do all charts I hope you also do the Atlatic Ocean for those of use that have two jobs (Nimitz/Doenitz, pls dont see this LOL) Great Idea! BTW, expect me to do more posts... Im a torpedo man, not a medic __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

09-05-08, 11:40 PM	#15
Ivan Putski Captain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Memphis, Tn. U.S.A. Posts: 548 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I also like the land effects, a real improvement over the stock in game map, hope you work out a solution for the ocean colors. Puts __________________ " Is He?..........Yeah..........Nothing Moving, But His Watch."