[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[MANoWAR.U52]

Originally Posted by jldjs

"most definitive version" ?
IMHP, the best version available, and continuing to be improved!

Most definitive right now I mean. Good to see that the community is still working on it

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by MANoWAR.U52

So FOTRS is now the most definitive version of SH4 right?

Can't say it is the most definitive, but it sure darn close. Let's put it this way, no other mega-mod has a number of submarines that you encounter. If you get to close they will turn on you and fire torpedoes. it is so cool to look through your PS and see one of them in your sights.

[Cybermat47]

Speaking of which, where can we encounter the IJN and KM subs? Hoping to bag one some time

[MANoWAR.U52]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

... wait until you see this next version fellers... - We have to have a couple fellers vote for their choice on a certain aspect of the game, then have CapnScurvy bolt the intake manifold down, hand it off to Rockin Robbins for the Nitrous Oxide tanks to be filled, and a~way~ we GO!

Are chances hight that the new version might not be savegame compatible with current FOTRSU campaigns? I´m planning to start a new epic campaign today but I also have some Combat Mission campaigns and a SH5 TWOS playthrough waiting for me, so if savegames could break I would postpone FOTRSU until the new version.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Speaking of which, where can we encounter the IJN and KM subs? Hoping to bag one some time

Several files contain subs, most of which are RGG (Random Generated Group), which means you just never know when they'll pop-up. Always be ready, because they can be aggressive.

Originally Posted by MANoWAR.U52

Are chances hight that the new version might not be savegame compatible with current FOTRSU campaigns? I´m planning to start a new epic campaign today but I also have some Combat Mission campaigns and a SH5 TWOS playthrough waiting for me, so if savegames could break I would postpone FOTRSU until the new version.

All mods should be considered as not being backwards compatible with previous versions of itself, which would preclude the use of any older Saved game. Even the smallest of change can cause issues, and this next version will not be an exception. The mod is still 'beta', and as such, is still subject to drastic changes. There are several Type= changes in the mod that would cause you a CTD if using a previous Save. Do the Patrols or Missions, if you're concerned about losing your progress in a career, though when you do start a new career in the new version, we definitely want your feedback.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by MANoWAR.U52

…......the new version might not be savegame compatible with current FOTRSU campaigns?

Yes, that's right.


Besides what propbeanie stated regarding the "Type" changes in the mod for ship designations, other changes to files with extensions like ".upc" don't mix together from one version to another. Nor do they mix together from one mod to another (TMO to RFB). You should never reuse a saved game point when changing mods, or even changing "versions" of the same mod. Too many file changes will screw up the use of a previous saved game, causing everything from specific processes not to work, to a CTD during play.

A player should delete his Documents/SH4 folder often when applying different mods to his game (Changing from TMO to Ultimate, or RFB to Stock), and realize the saved games he's deleting will only hurt overall game play if their used with modified files that they were not intended to be used with.

[MANoWAR.U52]

got it

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by jldjs

Patrolled (version .71) to north of Truk early '43 from Midway( patrol Carolinas search and destroy mission). Proceeded to Guam Jan 14 '43 and viewed harbor with external camera and see this;



ANyone else report this crazy ship spawning?

yeah, i have encountered those. i cant find the screen capture at the moment.

did you attempt to sink one or more of them?

[Caustic]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Several files contain subs, most of which are RGG (Random Generated Group), which means you just never know when they'll pop-up. Always be ready, because they can be aggressive.


All mods should be considered as not being backwards compatible with previous versions of itself, which would preclude the use of any older Saved game. Even the smallest of change can cause issues, and this next version will not be an exception. The mod is still 'beta', and as such, is still subject to drastic changes. There are several Type= changes in the mod that would cause you a CTD if using a previous Save. Do the Patrols or Missions, if you're concerned about losing your progress in a career, though when you do start a new career in the new version, we definitely want your feedback.

Something I have been looking forward to for a long time is the inclusion of a more refined Natural Sinking Mechanics type mod. I think RFB tried to do this but failed miserably. It turns out that making ships harder to sink by giving them more HP and preventing them from having critical hits just makes the game tedious and boring. As well the game simply breaks in most cases.


With the years of modding experience behind you I think you could finish Werner's vision for a balanced and complete dynamic sinking physics mod.


Regards

Originally Posted by mark bonamer

yeah, i have encountered those. i cant find the screen capture at the moment.

did you attempt to sink one or more of them?

No, I thought it might be a monster that would follow my torpedo tracks back to my sub and devour me!

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by jldjs

No, I thought it might be a monster that would follow my torpedo tracks back to my sub and devour me!

oh you are such a kidder.

Originally Posted by jldjs

No, I thought it might be a monster that would follow my torpedo tracks back to my sub and devour me!

You never really know...

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[KaleunMarco]

hey pb or strikeback (or anyone else for that matter),

when you run SH Validator and receive this message how do you typically respond?

i ask because i have tried it both ways and do not see a difference in the results.
thanks.
mb

[propbeanie]

That kind of an asset does not have all of the files that a ship or airplane would, so you can tell it to add it to the list of ignores just fine. All it does is add an entry to the SHVaidatorSH4.cfg file for the next time you run Validator. If you are concerned with all of the Ignores necessary to get through a run, you can always place "empty" text files in the folders with those names, and voilà, no more dialog pop-up - or just do the ignore...

If you happen to find that dialog pointing at a ship, plane or sub, do NOT ignore it... Just remember that Validator does not find all of the errors, since it only scans a portion of the files. It also will not save campaign errors to the log file it creates, so be sure and look at the program's read-out screen and copy off of it to supplement the log file. Also, it will not scan the German side of the game... it is a tool, not a toolbox...

[suitednate]

Hello,

I’m noticing a lot of instances where I can’t hear the sounds of vessels on the sonar. The map says the sound bearing is there but when I go to the sonar itself, there is no sound. This is a bug right? Also I try to target sometimes using an active ping to get the range and bearing and then send the info to the TDC. I then wait anywhere from 30s to a couple min and do it again and for some reason they can’t give me a speed estimate when I click on that in the TDC? Shouldn’t I be able to get a speed estimate from this process?

Thank you all for your help.