So which way do you lean? - Page 2

Reece · 01-19-10, 11:06 PM

I have decided I'm leaning toward the negative side of SHV

Ducimus · 01-19-10, 11:07 PM

http://www.uboat.net/ops/drumbeat.htm

Quote:

This may surprise many of you but Operation Drumbeat really was just the inital wave of 5 large U-boats, Paukenschlag was meant to be a fast and surprise attack on the eastern seaboard of the US, and it succeeded as such. Then there were several other "waves" of U-boats that went into American waters but those don't really count as Drumbeaters.

Task Force · 01-19-10, 11:18 PM

yea, im gonna have to go with reece with this one... SH5 dosent look to be as good as it could have been, I feel that it will be abit like most games, fun for acouple of times, but loose its fun after awhile, AKA, wont be as big of a Wow, whats gonna happen feeling as in SH3...

Reece · 01-19-10, 11:22 PM

No type II or IX boats
Game ends in 1943
Dynamic Campaign appears to be scripted ** See update below **
No Rough seas
Have heard thunder but seen no lightning (SHIV bug)
Looking at the latest video there is no dynamic shadows.
Other question come to mind like flotilla's, are they selectable, are we able to play in the Atlantic or is it just in the Med!

I admit they have added some nice eye candy but important area's have been taken out, starting to look like an arcade game rather than a simulator!

I hope some of the above concerns come to light soon!

UPDATE:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak:

Because the "Dynamic" campaign sounds more like a scripted campaign than a SH3/4 sandbox type environment, thereby limiting its replayability.

Quote:

Elanaiba said:
Let's stop that right there.

The campaign will be much more dynamic (not to mention moddable in a very powerful way) than SH3/4. (BTW those were not dynamic, but random)

People keep turning words around trying to find proof that their greatest fears come true: Scripted Campaign.

Yes, you have a crew. Yes, there's a storyline to it.

But the campaign is dynamic and that's the end of it

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Quote:

Reece said:
Are you saying that there is no random elements in the game? we have to follow a set out scripted events? can we choose the flotilla we want and patrol area's of our choice?

Quote:

Elanaiba said:
Yes, there's random in the game.

Yes, you can choose your patrol area, we can't put walls in the middle of the Atlantic.

Later Dan quoted TarJak: To get access to ANY historic port flotilla that you choose, you have to mod it. You will have several starting points that we have chosen, but those are easily modable too.

This sounds a little better, but only if modded it seems!

Task Force · 01-19-10, 11:24 PM

yea, I would have to agree, appears the modders will have alot of work. I get this odd feeling it will be like ETWs, American revolution campaign... In chapters...

01-19-10, 11:44 PM

This is my side of the issue also.

dcb · 01-20-10, 12:10 AM

Let me join the club, please.

Reece · 01-20-10, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcb

Let me join the club, please.

It's unfortunate to have to say "Welcome!"

kiwi_2005 · 01-20-10, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

No type II or IX boats
Game ends in 1943
Dynamic Campaign appears to be scripted
No Rough seas
Have heard thunder but seen no lightning (SHIV bug)
Looking at the latest video there is no dynamic shadows.
Other question come to mind like flotilla's, are they selectable, are we able to play in the Atlantic or is it just in the Med!

I admit they have added some nice eye candy but important area's have been taken out, starting to look like an arcade game rather than a simulator!

I hope some of the above concerns come to light soon!

Game ends in 1943

My crystal ball tells me an addon will come out that unlocks 1943 onwards with new boats.

No rough seas.

If this is true it will truly suck for us 'external view' players.

Dynamic Campaign appears to be scripted.

. I can live with that (barely) i will treat the game like a role playing game. Questing in the Atlantic!

no dynamic shadows.

Not really a problem for me. I think.

nice eye candy

lol

Will i still buy SH5? 'sigh' yeah lol

conus00 · 01-20-10, 01:16 AM

I'm with you Reece. Here is what I posted in another thread:
Even with beautiful graphics, full 3D interior, excellent RPG-like crew management etc., the scripted campaign is gonna put a huge dent on the re-playability. The last thing I wish for is SH series to turn into CoD series: it sure looks pretty, it has gripping action and effects but it is always THE SAME.

The SH3 has been installed on my PC since the date it was released and has never left my hard drive. I can finish one career and almost immediately start another one, knowing for SURE that there is going to be something I have not seen before....

I'm very afraid that SHV will not provide the same....

I really, REALLY wish to be wrong...

conus00 · 01-20-10, 01:22 AM

I'm afraid I'm with Reece on this one: sure SHV will have bunch of steps forward but overall, compared to SH3, it's just huge leap BACK!

I will probably buy it anyway but am I happy about it? Definitely no!

Reece · 01-20-10, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conus00

I'm with you Reece. Here is what I posted in another thread:
Even with beautiful graphics, full 3D interior, excellent RPG-like crew management etc., the scripted campaign is gonna put a huge dent on the re-playability. The last thing I wish for is SH series to turn into CoD series: it sure looks pretty, it has gripping action and effects but it is always THE SAME.

The SH3 has been installed on my PC since the date it was released and has never left my hard drive. I can finish one career and almost immediately start another one, knowing for SURE that there is going to be something I have not seen before....

I'm very afraid that SHV will not provide the same....

I really, REALLY wish to be wrong...

And in another thread I posted this:

Quote:

Alex: The player will enter the game as an XO and will complete an introductory part of the campaign. After that, he will be take command of the U-boat as the Captain.

Will this repeat when ever you start a new campaign!

A valid question I feel!

IanC · 01-20-10, 02:05 AM

eh, you guys want a little cheese with that whine?

THE_MASK · 01-20-10, 02:14 AM

You are trying to compare apples with oranges . Its a new direction by the looks of it . Its obviously not a simulation like SH3/4 . Its a first person history lesson .

msalama · 01-20-10, 02:26 AM

Hmmm... as an incurable optimist all I'm saying so far is that the devs said the bugga will be more moddable than its predecessors. And if so I'll probably end up buying it _and_ a new computer to boot to see what's really customizable - and to be able to run it at all actually, since this POS current computer of mine most likely won't! S**t, if you can't play it then just tinker it to death is what I'm sayin'

View Poll Results: Which way do you lean in regards to SHV
Mostly positive opinion of SHV	118	51.98%
Mostly negative opinion of SHV	72	31.72%
I have no opinion on SHV either way	37	16.30%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

01-19-10, 11:06 PM	#16
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,822 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I have decided I'm leaning toward the negative side of SHV __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-19-10, 11:18 PM	#18
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, im gonna have to go with reece with this one... SH5 dosent look to be as good as it could have been, I feel that it will be abit like most games, fun for acouple of times, but loose its fun after awhile, AKA, wont be as big of a Wow, whats gonna happen feeling as in SH3... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-19-10, 11:24 PM	#20
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, I would have to agree, appears the modders will have alot of work. I get this odd feeling it will be like ETWs, American revolution campaign... In chapters... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-20-10, 01:16 AM	#25
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: DB85 Posts: 804 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	I'm with you Reece. Here is what I posted in another thread: Even with beautiful graphics, full 3D interior, excellent RPG-like crew management etc., the scripted campaign is gonna put a huge dent on the re-playability. The last thing I wish for is SH series to turn into CoD series: it sure looks pretty, it has gripping action and effects but it is always THE SAME. The SH3 has been installed on my PC since the date it was released and has never left my hard drive. I can finish one career and almost immediately start another one, knowing for SURE that there is going to be something I have not seen before.... I'm very afraid that SHV will not provide the same.... I really, REALLY wish to be wrong... __________________

01-19-10, 11:44 PM	#21
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	This is my side of the issue also.

01-20-10, 12:10 AM	#22
dcb Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 845 Downloads: 544 Uploads: 0	Let me join the club, please.

01-20-10, 01:22 AM	#26
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: DB85 Posts: 804 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	I'm afraid I'm with Reece on this one: sure SHV will have bunch of steps forward but overall, compared to SH3, it's just huge leap BACK! I will probably buy it anyway but am I happy about it? Definitely no! __________________

01-20-10, 02:05 AM	#28
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	eh, you guys want a little cheese with that whine?

01-20-10, 02:14 AM	#29
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	You are trying to compare apples with oranges . Its a new direction by the looks of it . Its obviously not a simulation like SH3/4 . Its a first person history lesson .

01-20-10, 02:26 AM	#30
msalama Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In an octopus's garden Posts: 565 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Hmmm... as an incurable optimist all I'm saying so far is that the devs said the bugga will be more moddable than its predecessors. And if so I'll probably end up buying it _and_ a new computer to boot to see what's really customizable - and to be able to run it at all actually, since this POS current computer of mine most likely won't! S**t, if you can't play it then just tinker it to death is what I'm sayin'