It's NYGM TW 2.0 too much arcade game?

Einsman · 10-20-06, 04:11 AM

Hello!

After proved the mod Grey Wolves, I have installed the NYGM TW 2.2 and if I compare it with the Grey, this one is in my opinion a little more arcade. Or am I wrong?

Because with the mod Grey Wolves me was more difficult of sinking ships and with the NYGM I am in the year 1939 and already I have sunk in one patrol 5 large cargo.

Pardon for my english.

pontius · 10-20-06, 05:21 AM

Safe-Keeper · 10-20-06, 06:43 AM

NYGM is supposed to be far more realistic than Grey Wolves. You'll see.

10-20-06, 07:35 AM

I think you'll answer your own question after playing it some more. Are you using manual targeting by any chance ? And do you play at 100% Realism ? If the answer to any of these questions is "no" then your question is a mute point.

Cheers, Hans

messenger42 · 10-20-06, 08:58 AM

you haven't play yet.....you'll see

kylania · 10-20-06, 09:42 AM

Wait till you have 8 air attacks in a single grid

SubConscious · 10-20-06, 10:07 AM

... or nine destroyers on your sonar - roving about in packs of three.

There's nothing "arcade" about NYGM 2.2 in my opinion. Life in the game can be brutal and short.

CCIP · 10-20-06, 11:38 AM

Yes, I would agree that NYGM is quite a bit more vicious than GW right now, and probably will remain so. I take a lot of satisfaction from that, personally (the viciousness I mean - GW is still great!).

Einsman · 10-20-06, 11:51 AM

Ok.

I will continue playing with NYGM and I'll see .... :p

Ducimus · 10-20-06, 04:51 PM

NYGM, arcade? Is this a joke? I admit, im not exactly a fan of NYGM, but i have taken a close look at their work and i feel safe to say that they've gone through great lengths to bend the player over backwards

Coda · 10-20-06, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

NYGM, arcade? Is this a joke? I admit, im not exactly a fan of NYGM, but i have taken a close look at their work and i feel safe to say that they've gone through great lengths to bend the player over backwards

It's a broken boat mod. Find a historical document that says somehing worked different, change something in a cfg/sim/zon/dat to break the boat so it doesn't work as well in the name of historical accuracy and wallha nygm

Ducimus · 10-20-06, 05:36 PM

Well, not all mods are for everyone, thats why theres a few options as to what sort of game you want to play. If you really want to go retro in your game, theres always Harbor Traffic 1.47 or Unified Campaign Vanilla (vanilla meaning for vanilla SH3). Personnaly i use a highly modified version of UC vanilla. Depending on how the damage mod works out in GWX, i may or may not repackage it and a bunch of other changes as a compilation.

Main reason i stay out of the GW/NYGM games is simply because i dont like feel like hanging around forever and a day waiting for a ship to sink. Although im also not a fan of 1 hit wonder torpedo's. I solved that delimna for myself by switching to manual targeting. I use about the same ordinance that i would with the GW/NYGm damage mods, but in much less time, and i like the almight boom with lots of secondary explosions.

Coda · 10-20-06, 06:49 PM

Same thing I do. I finally made myself my own compilation of stuff that didn't take anything to the extreme. Watching a ship bob up and down for 24hrs is not my version of immersion either. 1 hit torpedoes bug me too, so I set all critical chance to zero. My "damage mod " is harder than stock, takes more than a couple hits, but if I kill something it's dead.

I started with IUB and built from there.

To me GW and NYGM are almost he exact same thing except nygm broke the boat more and TGW had more music.

custom is the way to go.

Ducimus · 10-20-06, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda

so I set all critical chance to zero.

Ive thought about doing that, so i can be lazy and not feel guilty about using the autoTDC, how is this working out for you? Can you still , in autoTDC mode, target a section and make the ship go boom with one torpedo?

Coda · 10-20-06, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

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Originally Posted by Coda

so I set all critical chance to zero.

Ive thought about doing that, so i can be lazy and not feel guilty about using the autoTDC, how is this working out for you? Can you still , in autoTDC mode, target a section and make the ship go boom with one torpedo?

It depends. I don't autoTDC. I still get 1 hitters occasionally because of cargo/ammo, something I'm still tweaking around with. But it has almost killed all of the 1 hit wonders.

Now that you mention this i'm going to go test. Using stock, I'll set all crit chance to zero and see.

10-20-06, 04:11 AM	#1
Einsman Engineer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In one place in the Atlantic, say A Coruña, Galiza (Spain) Posts: 214 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	It's NYGM TW 2.0 too much arcade game? Hello! After proved the mod Grey Wolves, I have installed the NYGM TW 2.2 and if I compare it with the Grey, this one is in my opinion a little more arcade. Or am I wrong? Because with the mod Grey Wolves me was more difficult of sinking ships and with the NYGM I am in the year 1939 and already I have sunk in one patrol 5 large cargo. Pardon for my english.

10-20-06, 06:43 AM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	NYGM is supposed to be far more realistic than Grey Wolves. You'll see. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

10-20-06, 09:42 AM	#6
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Wait till you have 8 air attacks in a single grid __________________

10-20-06, 11:38 AM	#8
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yes, I would agree that NYGM is quite a bit more vicious than GW right now, and probably will remain so. I take a lot of satisfaction from that, personally (the viciousness I mean - GW is still great!). __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) Last edited by CCIP; 10-20-06 at 11:45 AM.

10-20-06, 05:21 AM	#2
pontius Gunner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flensburg - Germany Posts: 99 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0

10-20-06, 07:35 AM	#4
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think you'll answer your own question after playing it some more. Are you using manual targeting by any chance ? And do you play at 100% Realism ? If the answer to any of these questions is "no" then your question is a mute point. Cheers, Hans

10-20-06, 08:58 AM	#5
messenger42 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	you haven't play yet.....you'll see

10-20-06, 10:07 AM	#7
SubConscious Frogman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 309 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	... or nine destroyers on your sonar - roving about in packs of three. There's nothing "arcade" about NYGM 2.2 in my opinion. Life in the game can be brutal and short.

10-20-06, 11:51 AM	#9
Einsman Engineer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In one place in the Atlantic, say A Coruña, Galiza (Spain) Posts: 214 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	Ok. I will continue playing with NYGM and I'll see .... :p

10-20-06, 04:51 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	NYGM, arcade? Is this a joke? I admit, im not exactly a fan of NYGM, but i have taken a close look at their work and i feel safe to say that they've gone through great lengths to bend the player over backwards

10-20-06, 05:36 PM	#12
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, not all mods are for everyone, thats why theres a few options as to what sort of game you want to play. If you really want to go retro in your game, theres always Harbor Traffic 1.47 or Unified Campaign Vanilla (vanilla meaning for vanilla SH3). Personnaly i use a highly modified version of UC vanilla. Depending on how the damage mod works out in GWX, i may or may not repackage it and a bunch of other changes as a compilation. Main reason i stay out of the GW/NYGM games is simply because i dont like feel like hanging around forever and a day waiting for a ship to sink. Although im also not a fan of 1 hit wonder torpedo's. I solved that delimna for myself by switching to manual targeting. I use about the same ordinance that i would with the GW/NYGm damage mods, but in much less time, and i like the almight boom with lots of secondary explosions.

10-20-06, 06:49 PM	#13
Coda Medic Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 159 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same thing I do. I finally made myself my own compilation of stuff that didn't take anything to the extreme. Watching a ship bob up and down for 24hrs is not my version of immersion either. 1 hit torpedoes bug me too, so I set all critical chance to zero. My "damage mod " is harder than stock, takes more than a couple hits, but if I kill something it's dead. I started with IUB and built from there. To me GW and NYGM are almost he exact same thing except nygm broke the boat more and TGW had more music. custom is the way to go.