US Needs a leader like Kennedy

[Onkel Neal]

It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union .
-- President John F. Kennedy,
Oct. 22, 1962

Now that's deterrence.
Kennedy was pledging that if any nuke was launched from Cuba, the United States would not even bother with Cuba but would go directly to the source and bring the apocalypse to Russia with a massive nuclear attack.

The remarkable thing about this kind of threat is that in 1962 it was very credible. Indeed, its credibility kept the peace throughout a half-century of the Cold War.

Excellent article by Krauthammer: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/12/AR2006101201668_pf.html


Bush has drawn several red lines with Iran and NK, but has failed to make them stick. Someday, in the near future, when the first terrorist A-bomb destroys Washington, or Copenhagen, or the Hague, or London, or Berlin, or Rome, or Paris... people will look back and see this time as the decisive point where the Western world had the opportunity to act and stop nuclear proliferation, but did not have the will. Bush will be a key figure of blame, but most of Europe and half of America should share the blame for holding him back.

[HunterICX]

Question is: Why do we have nukes in the first place?
because we have now the amount to blow up the earth a couple of times, I'll bet that we the human race will be dead because of our own creation of mass destruction.

its a scary thought.

[Coda]

US needs a leader like Jesse Ventura. No nonsense, straight forward, common sense with a purpose.

[madDdog67]

Can you imagine the mass hysteria around the world if Pres. Bush actually *said* that?

This whole thing is gonna get messy if the UN resolution that gets passed (most likely tomorrow) includes inpections of ships, and we actually try to enforce 'em.

[fredbass]

I'm with ya Neal.

[fredbass]

Originally Posted by madDdog67

This whole thing is gonna get messy if the UN resolution that gets passed (most likely tomorrow) includes inpections of ships, and we actually try to enforce 'em.

I doubt it.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by fredbass

I doubt it.

It depends on how mentally stable Kim Jong-Il is. His government has stated this would be an act of war. Is Kim crazy enough to launch attacks on the South? Does China actually have any control over Kim and his government?

[Dowly]

US just needs to remember sometimes that it is PART of the world, not the whole world.

And on the N.Korea thing, Kim is definitely crazy, but I really doubt he is crazy enough to attack to S.Korea. He knows what would be the result. Without nukes, I´m pretty sure that S.Korea can beat the N.Korean forces. With nukes, the N.Korea cannot achieve anything except the total destruction of itself by other countries with nukes. Then again, if N.Korea decides to attack South with nukes, what will the reaction be on the 'outside' wolrd? Will it result in immediate retaliation with nukes or will there be "basic" war against the N.Korea?

[fredbass]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

It depends on how mentally stable Kim Jong-Il is. His government has stated this would be an act of war. Is Kim crazy enough to launch attacks on the South? Does China actually have any control over Kim and his government?

I say inspect the ships and lets call the bluff. They need us to shoot first, so this is a great situation as far as I'm concerned.

[Yahoshua]

Agreed.

In fact, there are some who are doubting whether the NK even detonated a bomb because it was so small. It may be a farce to begin with, but should be dealt with as if there were a bomb that had been detonated during that test.

[Subnuts]

My gun has killed fewer people than....

Crap. Wrong Kennedy. :rotfl:

[madDdog67]

Originally Posted by Subnuts

My gun has killed fewer people than....

Crap. Wrong Kennedy. :rotfl:

:rotfl:

[madDdog67]

Originally Posted by fredbass

I say inspect the ships and lets call the bluff. They need us to shoot first, so this is a great situation as far as I'm concerned.

I'm actually with ya on this...but Lord knows what it'll do to gas prices hehe.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Dowly

US just needs to remember sometimes that it is PART of the world, not the whole world.

That's a cool catch phrase. I think, however, the US already remembers that. The rest of the world needs to step up and do their part to stop nuclear proliferation and stop trying to guess how sane Kim Jong IL is and if that has any meaning on what could happen.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

That's a cool catch phrase. I think, however, the US already remembers that. The rest of the world needs to step up and do their part to stop nuclear proliferation and stop trying to guess how sane Kim Jong IL is and if that has any meaning on what could happen.

Well put