So what was so bad about Destroyer Command ?

horsa · 10-09-06, 02:29 PM

Are there enough people around to give a reasonably representative sample of views ?

Just to refresh :-

It was given right slagging by Gamespot
I believe sales figures were very poor.
It always attracted a high moan count from the forums.

blue3golf · 10-09-06, 09:21 PM

I've never had a problems with it personally. The only thing I can remember is that there were problems with the MP aspect of it, but that was right after it first came out and everyone was still trying to figure it out.

Torplexed · 10-09-06, 10:10 PM

I recall one of the biggest complaints was in order for it to be compatiable with SH2 it delayed the release of SH2.

horsa · 10-10-06, 05:58 AM

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I recall one of the biggest complaints was in order for it to be compatiable with SH2 it delayed the release of SH2

True, but that was before release. I believe this was eventually sorted out. The Wolfpack/Eagle leagues seem to have successfully linked the two games for years now ... and didn't PM add some more stability ? I've never tried them online but was always happy with their performance over a LAN.

horsa · 10-10-06, 06:06 AM

Quote Glowwormguy from another thread ( my emphasis)

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Yeah, better graphics would be nice, though quite frankly I'd be happy seeing such things as crew quality and training, proper smoke (and making smoke) and gunnery (including BVR gunnery) and a better, branching campaign with the possibility for random convoy actions and historic battles like they had in the old Aces of Dynamix

Sailor Steve · 10-14-06, 04:45 PM

Personally I enjoyed it. While I hated SHII for not having a dynamic campaign, I thought the scripted flavor fit right in with DC, as destroyers have to do what they're told and never get sent out alone to "mess with the enemy".

I thought it was well done, and since I tend to run many careers side-by-side, once SH4 is out I intend to spend all my time going through the war playing both sides, both newer sub games and Destroyer Command (plus a couple of flight sims as well).

HS · 10-14-06, 04:48 PM

... some sort of long lasting dynamic campaigns, some crew members (see SH III), some big ship TFs including operational CVs

Reinhard Hardegen · 10-14-06, 05:45 PM

I saw no real problems with the game. I even find it very easy to set up campaigns and write misions for it. I feel it was a well thought out game, as well to it linking with SHII.

Seeadler · 10-14-06, 05:49 PM

@HS
If you would not write here in white letters, all could read your comment.

There are still other forum styles than SmartDark and those have a white background in the text area

Palindromeria · 10-15-06, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

@HS
If you would not write here in white letters, all could read your comment.

There are still other forum styles than SmartDark and those have a white background in the text area

:rotfl:

HS · 10-15-06, 11:41 AM

I'm afraid, life tends to be a bit complicated from time to time ...

Hitman · 10-17-06, 02:30 AM

Probably the biggest problem for DC was that the surface simmers are not as many as the subsurface ones. Good examples of that are the relatively small communities of players from GNB or Fighting Steel. Anyway, for a destroyer game DC had in my opinion some serious flaws that could be corrected only to a certain extent:

-In ASW: Stupid sub AI, and too good Destroyer sensors & Depth charges

-In Surface action: Stupid AI in the enemy and limited rendering of ships to 14000 yards

My two cents

10-17-06, 05:47 PM

SHIII has been, literally, a dream come true to me. It's virtually exactly the game I've always wanted to play (and is about the only pc/video/etc. game I own and play).

However, after having played it for quite some time now I've gotten curious as to what it would be like with the shoe on the other foot; i.e. being a destroyer.

Is Destroyer Command worth it? I enjoy immersion/realism rather then snazzy graphics (although, hey, I'll take snazzy graphics too

) which is why I like SHIII as much as I do (and why I'd pay without blinking $200 for it, if that's what it took . . . and had it been fully developed before release). Will I be disappointed with Destroyer Command?

I assume if my pc/system is capable of running SHIII it will run DC without problems. I'm not gonna get a rude surprise with that assumption, will I?

And lastly, is it possible to MP with others, especially those running SHII and, if so, how easy is it to partner up with others?

T'anks!

horsa · 10-17-06, 06:02 PM

This is where you find the guys who play online . The Wolfpack League is for those who want to be sub commanders and the Eagle League is for those who want to command Destroyers. There are more sub commanders than Destroyer commanders.

http://www.subclub.info/phpBB_subclu...a45c32b76b259d

Recommending a sim is always a bit of a gamble because it is so subjective. DC is not as graphically rich as SH3 but you say this is not an issue with you. The graphics however are IMHO on the right side of the good/bad divide. DC certainly gives you an experience you can never get with SH3 so on that basis you should find it interesting, particularly if you go online. In single play mode you may get quickly bored by how bad the AI is. Anyway, these days you should be able to pick up Destroyer Command for buttons so you are not really risking much. Like all these games they are much improved if you can install a lot of the mods. Unfortunately most of the DC mods are not now so easy to find. If you are really intersested I can point you to where they are on a step by step basis.

10-17-06, 06:08 PM

Thanks so much for the quick reply, and for your advice and opinion. I really appreciate it!

10-09-06, 02:29 PM	#1
horsa Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Halifax, England Posts: 502 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	So what was so bad about Destroyer Command ? Are there enough people around to give a reasonably representative sample of views ? Just to refresh :- It was given right slagging by Gamespot I believe sales figures were very poor. It always attracted a high moan count from the forums.

10-09-06, 10:10 PM	#3
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I recall one of the biggest complaints was in order for it to be compatiable with SH2 it delayed the release of SH2. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-14-06, 04:45 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Personally I enjoyed it. While I hated SHII for not having a dynamic campaign, I thought the scripted flavor fit right in with DC, as destroyers have to do what they're told and never get sent out alone to "mess with the enemy". I thought it was well done, and since I tend to run many careers side-by-side, once SH4 is out I intend to spend all my time going through the war playing both sides, both newer sub games and Destroyer Command (plus a couple of flight sims as well). __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-14-06, 05:49 PM	#9
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	@HS If you would not write here in white letters, all could read your comment. There are still other forum styles than SmartDark and those have a white background in the text area __________________ -- Vapor-ware is always easier to sell because there's no limit what it can do!

10-17-06, 02:30 AM	#12
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Probably the biggest problem for DC was that the surface simmers are not as many as the subsurface ones. Good examples of that are the relatively small communities of players from GNB or Fighting Steel. Anyway, for a destroyer game DC had in my opinion some serious flaws that could be corrected only to a certain extent: -In ASW: Stupid sub AI, and too good Destroyer sensors & Depth charges -In Surface action: Stupid AI in the enemy and limited rendering of ships to 14000 yards My two cents __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-09-06, 09:21 PM	#2
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've never had a problems with it personally. The only thing I can remember is that there were problems with the MP aspect of it, but that was right after it first came out and everyone was still trying to figure it out.

10-14-06, 04:48 PM	#7
HS Bosun Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	... some sort of long lasting dynamic campaigns, some crew members (see SH III), some big ship TFs including operational CVs

10-14-06, 05:45 PM	#8
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	I saw no real problems with the game. I even find it very easy to set up campaigns and write misions for it. I feel it was a well thought out game, as well to it linking with SHII.

10-15-06, 11:41 AM	#11
HS Bosun Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I'm afraid, life tends to be a bit complicated from time to time ...

10-17-06, 05:47 PM	#13
Albrecht Von Hesse Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	SHIII has been, literally, a dream come true to me. It's virtually exactly the game I've always wanted to play (and is about the only pc/video/etc. game I own and play). However, after having played it for quite some time now I've gotten curious as to what it would be like with the shoe on the other foot; i.e. being a destroyer. Is Destroyer Command worth it? I enjoy immersion/realism rather then snazzy graphics (although, hey, I'll take snazzy graphics too ) which is why I like SHIII as much as I do (and why I'd pay without blinking $200 for it, if that's what it took . . . and had it been fully developed before release). Will I be disappointed with Destroyer Command? I assume if my pc/system is capable of running SHIII it will run DC without problems. I'm not gonna get a rude surprise with that assumption, will I? And lastly, is it possible to MP with others, especially those running SHII and, if so, how easy is it to partner up with others? T'anks!

10-17-06, 06:02 PM	#14
horsa Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Halifax, England Posts: 502 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	This is where you find the guys who play online . The Wolfpack League is for those who want to be sub commanders and the Eagle League is for those who want to command Destroyers. There are more sub commanders than Destroyer commanders. http://www.subclub.info/phpBB_subclu...a45c32b76b259d Recommending a sim is always a bit of a gamble because it is so subjective. DC is not as graphically rich as SH3 but you say this is not an issue with you. The graphics however are IMHO on the right side of the good/bad divide. DC certainly gives you an experience you can never get with SH3 so on that basis you should find it interesting, particularly if you go online. In single play mode you may get quickly bored by how bad the AI is. Anyway, these days you should be able to pick up Destroyer Command for buttons so you are not really risking much. Like all these games they are much improved if you can install a lot of the mods. Unfortunately most of the DC mods are not now so easy to find. If you are really intersested I can point you to where they are on a step by step basis. Last edited by horsa; 10-17-06 at 06:06 PM.

10-17-06, 06:08 PM	#15
Albrecht Von Hesse Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Thanks so much for the quick reply, and for your advice and opinion. I really appreciate it!