Worry about China

The Avon Lady · 09-29-06, 05:43 AM

Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites

It's not just the new laser toy. Read the entire article

snowsub · 09-29-06, 06:10 AM

Very interesting reading :hmm:

Although it's in china's interest to keep it's national issues secret, though the sabotage is a different matter.
I'm also wondering how indepth and true to the fact the info is.

Skybird · 09-29-06, 06:23 AM

Why expecting the Chinese to act intentionally to their strategical disadvantage? They have the tool to deny their major rival the ability to spy on them, so they use it to deny him that advantage. Who would not do that? After all, the act of spying, no matter how understandable it is for the spy's side, is an aggressive act. I'm sure the US does similiar things in return. during the early nineties circles in the pentagon tried to establish a doctrine of thinking that space is theirs and the right to use of it for strategic and military purposes should be denied to others. It seems, China disagrees on that landtaking policy.

But we should attack China preemptively. They are said to already have nukes, you know, and they are no American democracy. Dangerous, dangerous...

What I really would like to know is (but nobody will tell me) how sub operations close to China have been going over the last years. I am sure there are already many stories happening that we even do not want to know.

The Noob · 09-29-06, 06:38 AM

I can understand why they want to block US spy sat's.

Cold war, round 2: China vs. USA!

kiwi_2005 · 09-29-06, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

What I really would like to know is (but nobody will tell me) how sub operations close to China have been going over the last years. I am sure there are already many stories happening that we even do not want to know.

Oh thats easy. Just read a few Patrick Robinson or Tom Clancy Novels, they should keep ya uptodate with the silent war going on under the seas with US and China

On another note IMHO i think and i hope im dead wrong, but we humans are due for another major war soon. Its in our blood to fight.:hmm:

sonar732 · 09-29-06, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

What I really would like to know is (but nobody will tell me) how sub operations close to China have been going over the last years. I am sure there are already many stories happening that we even do not want to know.

I'm actually surprised that you are asking this question Sky. It doesn't take a military analyst to know that we are conducting intel ops to figure out what they are up too. It's not just sub ops either, remember 01 April 2001? A EP-3 collied with a Chinese intercept plane while conducting intel ops.

Skybird · 09-29-06, 09:36 AM

I didn't ask if intel ops are going on. we all can safely assume that they are being carried out. If they are always going smooth and withoiut confrontation is something different - I expressed my concern that in that field things maybe already are going far tougher than the public can imagine.

SUBMAN1 · 09-29-06, 10:03 AM

What I see here is not AMerican reluctance to do anything, but big business pressure to make the US back off. You know how much $$$ American companies have invested in China? To cause a conflict would be to bankrupt many of them. We are walking a fine line over here.

-S

Perilscope · 09-29-06, 10:04 AM

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Although the Chinese tests do not aim to destroy American satellites, the laser attacks could make them useless over Chinese territory.

China blind the satellite when hovering over their territory, sounds legitimate. :hmm:

SkvyWvr · 09-29-06, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

On another note IMHO i think and i hope im dead wrong, but we humans are due for another major war soon. Its in our blood to fight.:hmm:

That is soooo true. Man is it's own predator.

Oberon · 09-29-06, 10:12 AM

Haven't the Russkies got this tech too? Or did they just use the space based satkillers?

It's no surprise that China has high military ambitions, it's main goal is to become a superpower that is capable of taking on, and bloodying the US, especially in regards to Taiwan, and the Spratly Isles.

STEED · 09-29-06, 10:18 AM

I here China is doing well in pair part body organs they shoot there criminals and extract their organs for surgery and us Brits are flocking to China for new livers, kidneys, hearts and lungs.

I heard this on the radio.

TteFAboB · 09-29-06, 10:31 AM

No worries. It's a spy game.

Perilscope · 09-29-06, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's no surprise that China has high military ambitions, it's main goal is to become a superpower that is capable of taking on, and bloodying the US, especially in regards to Taiwan, and the Spratly Isles.

China is a tough nut, and I hate their ambition to recuperate Taiwan, it shows that they are not happy being as powerful as they are, they want more, they are no better than any other.

Moreover, since we live freely and have better ideology in general for our people, it's they the bad boys, I will never think otherwise.

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB

No worries. It's a spy game.

That is what people probably said just before 1914 and 1939

Yahoshua · 09-29-06, 12:41 PM

Business is war.

09-29-06, 05:43 AM	#1
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09-29-06, 06:10 AM	#2
snowsub 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Moreton bay Posts: 286 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very interesting reading :hmm: Although it's in china's interest to keep it's national issues secret, though the sabotage is a different matter. I'm also wondering how indepth and true to the fact the info is. __________________

09-29-06, 06:23 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Why expecting the Chinese to act intentionally to their strategical disadvantage? They have the tool to deny their major rival the ability to spy on them, so they use it to deny him that advantage. Who would not do that? After all, the act of spying, no matter how understandable it is for the spy's side, is an aggressive act. I'm sure the US does similiar things in return. during the early nineties circles in the pentagon tried to establish a doctrine of thinking that space is theirs and the right to use of it for strategic and military purposes should be denied to others. It seems, China disagrees on that landtaking policy. But we should attack China preemptively. They are said to already have nukes, you know, and they are no American democracy. Dangerous, dangerous... What I really would like to know is (but nobody will tell me) how sub operations close to China have been going over the last years. I am sure there are already many stories happening that we even do not want to know. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-29-06 at 06:29 AM.

09-29-06, 09:36 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I didn't ask if intel ops are going on. we all can safely assume that they are being carried out. If they are always going smooth and withoiut confrontation is something different - I expressed my concern that in that field things maybe already are going far tougher than the public can imagine. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-29-06, 10:03 AM	#8
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What I see here is not AMerican reluctance to do anything, but big business pressure to make the US back off. You know how much $$$ American companies have invested in China? To cause a conflict would be to bankrupt many of them. We are walking a fine line over here. -S __________________

09-29-06, 06:38 AM	#4
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I can understand why they want to block US spy sat's. Cold war, round 2: China vs. USA!

09-29-06, 10:12 AM	#11
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Haven't the Russkies got this tech too? Or did they just use the space based satkillers? It's no surprise that China has high military ambitions, it's main goal is to become a superpower that is capable of taking on, and bloodying the US, especially in regards to Taiwan, and the Spratly Isles.

09-29-06, 10:18 AM	#12
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I here China is doing well in pair part body organs they shoot there criminals and extract their organs for surgery and us Brits are flocking to China for new livers, kidneys, hearts and lungs. I heard this on the radio. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-29-06, 10:31 AM	#13
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No worries. It's a spy game. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

09-29-06, 12:41 PM	#15
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Business is war. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua