Did the US 'Name' Their Boats?

JordanC · 09-22-06, 08:46 PM

One of the things that really got you into the game in SH3 was the random generated U-Boat numbers; it just made the atmosphere more real. Did the US have numerical designations for their subs, or did they name them? If they did name them, how will this be incorporated, if at all, into the new sim?

Onkel Neal · 09-22-06, 09:05 PM

Named after fish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gato_class_submarine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balao_class_submarine

AG124 · 09-22-06, 10:15 PM

Well, of course some of the older ones like the S-Boats were numbered. But they won't be in the game anyway.

DeepSix · 09-22-06, 10:22 PM

And some of the "V" boats started off with numbers and acquired names later.

Silverdolphin637 · 09-23-06, 01:21 AM

Are they not going to be included? They did contribute in the early days of the war. I have not read what classes are included. I must dig around.

arrrrrrgggg

Safe-Keeper · 09-23-06, 05:14 AM

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One of the things that really got you into the game in SH3 was the random generated U-Boat numbers; it just made the atmosphere more real. Did the US have numerical designations for their subs, or did they name them? If they did name them, how will this be incorporated, if at all, into the new sim?

Randomly generated names, I assume. I hope, however, that the player will be able to name his own boat himself, even if sub commanders didn't in reality.

USS Hedda, prowler of the seas, terror of the Japanese and of whoever drive boats and ships that at night-time look Japanese to my n00b eyez!!111:p

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Are they not going to be included? They did contribute in the early days of the war. I have not read what classes are included. I must dig around.

arrrrrrgggg

No S-Class submarines, apparently. I guess patches or modders will have to add them manually.

CCIP · 09-23-06, 12:28 PM

No S- or V- classes I believe.

I think they should take the cue from SHIII Commander and have a historical list of boat names by type/year from which a boat's name would randomly be drawn.

Sailor Steve · 09-23-06, 01:30 PM

Note on the Gato and Balao lists that all U.S. boats were numbered as well as named. USS Gato, for instance, was SS-212.

I'm betting that they use the historical name/number combinations. After all, SHI did.

JordanC · 09-23-06, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the links! They were very informative and helpful!

AG124 · 09-23-06, 04:07 PM

Well, all US warships have designations such as those. SS was the abbreviation for submarine, CL for light cruiser, CA for heavy cruiser, CV for fleet carrier, CVL for light carrier, CVE for escort carrier, BB for battleship, DD for destroyers, DE for destroyer escorts (or frigates) and so on. I don't think the hull number will really be important in SHIV, but if it is there, it wouldn't be randomly generated.

WilhelmSchulz. · 09-24-06, 10:25 PM

Both actualy.

Rick Martin · 01-07-07, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanC

One of the things that really got you into the game in SH3 was the random generated U-Boat numbers; it just made the atmosphere more real. Did the US have numerical designations for their subs, or did they name them? If they did name them, how will this be incorporated, if at all, into the new sim?

Yes, US subs were both named and numbered. Each ship was named according to a strict set of rules such as:
Battleships--US States
Cruisers--Cities of the US
Carriers--Famous Battles or famous early warships
Submarines--Fish or other sea life such as Trout, Shark, Finback, Gato, etc.
in addition each warship had a hull number such as USS Gato (SS-212) the hull numbers were generally assigned in numerical order for the ships in each class. The letter part ID'd the ship type (SS=submarine, DD=destroyer, CV=aircraft carrier, etc. Don't know how this will be incorporated into SH 4 though. Might do it like Pacific Aces where the sub names correspond to the class type and seem to be generated with each new campaign. Rick Martin

LeafsFan · 01-07-07, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Note on the Gato and Balao lists that all U.S. boats were numbered as well as named. USS Gato, for instance, was SS-212.

I'm betting that they use the historical name/number combinations. After all, SHI did.

I'd say you are right.

HB

09-22-06, 08:46 PM	#1
JordanC Watch Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did the US 'Name' Their Boats? One of the things that really got you into the game in SH3 was the random generated U-Boat numbers; it just made the atmosphere more real. Did the US have numerical designations for their subs, or did they name them? If they did name them, how will this be incorporated, if at all, into the new sim?

09-22-06, 09:05 PM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,291 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Named after fish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gato_class_submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balao_class_submarine __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well, of course some of the older ones like the S-Boats were numbered. But they won't be in the game anyway. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

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DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	And some of the "V" boats started off with numbers and acquired names later. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

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Silverdolphin637 Nub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Altus, Oklahoma Posts: 2 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	s-boats Are they not going to be included? They did contribute in the early days of the war. I have not read what classes are included. I must dig around. arrrrrrgggg

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No S- or V- classes I believe. I think they should take the cue from SHIII Commander and have a historical list of boat names by type/year from which a boat's name would randomly be drawn. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Note on the Gato and Balao lists that all U.S. boats were numbered as well as named. USS Gato, for instance, was SS-212. I'm betting that they use the historical name/number combinations. After all, SHI did. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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JordanC Watch Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the links! They were very informative and helpful!

09-23-06, 04:07 PM	#10
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well, all US warships have designations such as those. SS was the abbreviation for submarine, CL for light cruiser, CA for heavy cruiser, CV for fleet carrier, CVL for light carrier, CVE for escort carrier, BB for battleship, DD for destroyers, DE for destroyer escorts (or frigates) and so on. I don't think the hull number will really be important in SHIV, but if it is there, it wouldn't be randomly generated. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

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WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Both actualy. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."