No S-Class?

Zachstar · 08-24-06, 11:56 PM

Used the other as a template.

DD: Silent Hunter IV aims to give an accurate representation of the US submarine campaign against Japan. Taking both this, and our own development schedule, into consideration, we chose the most representative US fleet boat classes: P-class, Tambor, Salmon, and Gato. Of course, each of them will come with several development variations."

This is not cool in the least bit! In SH3 you got small coastal style boats with limited rangle and torpedo load to start with. I don't find it fair in the least bit! I wanted to start the war in an S-Class sub..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...lass_submarine

http://www.valoratsea.com/Sclass1.htm

Virtual Sailor add-on by TLAM Strike

Do ya think we might be able to add in in with mods this time?

Safe-Keeper · 08-25-06, 02:02 AM

I suppose I'll just have to port the Type II:p.

But yes, this is pretty disappointing. I loved the Type II, and I love "underdog" vessels in general. Hopefully someone will mod it in, or maybe a patch, booster-pack or expansion-pack will add it.

08-25-06, 10:30 AM

I agree. I may start having reservation about my unqualified excitement. No 'S-Boat' may even lead to my questioning how badly I want to play the game.

Safe-Keeper · 08-25-06, 11:12 AM

It's understandable somehow, though. How much of your time in Silent Hunter III was spent in a Type II? Your first two or three patrols and two academy missions. No single-player missions, nearly no patrols, and probably not that many multi-player sorties.

Sure, in Grey Wolves I've undertaken 25 patrols in a Type II (first a II-A, then a II-D), but in the Vanilla game, nearly nothing. And I fear this is how most players want it. Personally I love the Type II for its charm, underdog appeal, and realism (it seems far more real than the other boats to me due to its "simplistic" and cramped appearance), but I fear that most players will prefer the "real" submarines over it.

WilhelmSchulz. · 08-25-06, 11:22 AM

Vanila?

08-25-06, 11:33 AM

Vanilla=Stock game, like vanilla ice cream with nothing on it.

Gizzmoe · 08-25-06, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilhelmSchulz.

Vanila?

Vanilla = unmodded.

Chef · 09-06-06, 05:54 PM

Quote:

DD: Silent Hunter IV aims to give an accurate representation of the US submarine campaign against Japan. Taking both this, and our own development schedule, into consideration, we chose the most representative US fleet boat classes: P-class, Tambor, Salmon, and Gato. Of course, each of them will come with several development variations."

Might the underlined mean Gato, Balao and Tench?

ricnunes · 09-07-06, 07:00 AM

The "underline" part makes me somehow less worried regarding the Balao or even the Tench.
But what worries me the most is the absence of the S-Class sub, I really hope the devs change their minds and put the S-Class in SH4. The S-Class is as important to the Pacific as it was the German TypeII in the Atlantic and the TypeII was included in SHIII so there's absolutely no reason why the S-Class shoudn't be included in SH4.

Sorry, if I'm insisting too much regarding the S-Class but I do this because I think that the presence of the S-Class in SH4 is VITAL!

MadMike · 09-07-06, 04:29 PM

Well, in the meantime I've created a few "training missions" out of Corregidor using a Type VIIB. Limiting your depth to 82m (268 ft) against the DD's is nerve wracking.
The deepest I've read an S-boat going in combat was 267 feet (S-37)-

http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/ss142.txt

Yeah, would be nice to see an S-boat in SHIV!

Yours, Mike

_Seth_ · 09-07-06, 05:03 PM

What would SHIII look like if they excluded the VIIC...?

I just LOVE it when its historically correct!

ricnunes · 09-08-06, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMike

Well, in the meantime I've created a few "training missions" out of Corregidor using a Type VIIB. Limiting your depth to 82m (268 ft) against the DD's is nerve wracking.
The deepest I've read an S-boat going in combat was 267 feet (S-37)-

http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/ss142.txt

Yeah, would be nice to see an S-boat in SHIV!

Yours, Mike

Yeap, the S-Class had a limited service depth but nevertheless it had an impressive submerged speed (for that time) of 11 Knots!

MadMike · 09-08-06, 07:58 AM

If the DevTeam ever get's the notion to model the S-boat, here's some interior pictures-

From-

http://thesaltysailor.com/s-boats/graphics.htm

More interior shots can be found here, near bottom of page-

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/s-boats4.html

Yours, Mike

ricnunes · 09-09-06, 12:34 PM

Excelent pictures inded, thanks for posting them Madmike!

08-24-06, 11:56 PM	#1
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	No S-Class? Used the other as a template. DD: Silent Hunter IV aims to give an accurate representation of the US submarine campaign against Japan. Taking both this, and our own development schedule, into consideration, we chose the most representative US fleet boat classes: P-class, Tambor, Salmon, and Gato. Of course, each of them will come with several development variations." This is not cool in the least bit! In SH3 you got small coastal style boats with limited rangle and torpedo load to start with. I don't find it fair in the least bit! I wanted to start the war in an S-Class sub.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...lass_submarine http://www.valoratsea.com/Sclass1.htm Virtual Sailor add-on by TLAM Strike Do ya think we might be able to add in in with mods this time? __________________

08-25-06, 02:02 AM	#2
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I suppose I'll just have to port the Type II:p. But yes, this is pretty disappointing. I loved the Type II, and I love "underdog" vessels in general. Hopefully someone will mod it in, or maybe a patch, booster-pack or expansion-pack will add it. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-25-06, 11:12 AM	#4
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	It's understandable somehow, though. How much of your time in Silent Hunter III was spent in a Type II? Your first two or three patrols and two academy missions. No single-player missions, nearly no patrols, and probably not that many multi-player sorties. Sure, in Grey Wolves I've undertaken 25 patrols in a Type II (first a II-A, then a II-D), but in the Vanilla game, nearly nothing. And I fear this is how most players want it. Personally I love the Type II for its charm, underdog appeal, and realism (it seems far more real than the other boats to me due to its "simplistic" and cramped appearance), but I fear that most players will prefer the "real" submarines over it. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-25-06, 11:22 AM	#5
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Vanila? __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

09-07-06, 04:29 PM	#10
MadMike Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Well, in the meantime I've created a few "training missions" out of Corregidor using a Type VIIB. Limiting your depth to 82m (268 ft) against the DD's is nerve wracking. The deepest I've read an S-boat going in combat was 267 feet (S-37)- http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/ss142.txt Yeah, would be nice to see an S-boat in SHIV! Yours, Mike Last edited by MadMike; 09-07-06 at 04:32 PM.

08-25-06, 10:30 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I agree. I may start having reservation about my unqualified excitement. No 'S-Boat' may even lead to my questioning how badly I want to play the game.

08-25-06, 11:33 AM	#6
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Vanilla=Stock game, like vanilla ice cream with nothing on it.

09-07-06, 07:00 AM	#9
ricnunes Watch Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The "underline" part makes me somehow less worried regarding the Balao or even the Tench. But what worries me the most is the absence of the S-Class sub, I really hope the devs change their minds and put the S-Class in SH4. The S-Class is as important to the Pacific as it was the German TypeII in the Atlantic and the TypeII was included in SHIII so there's absolutely no reason why the S-Class shoudn't be included in SH4. Sorry, if I'm insisting too much regarding the S-Class but I do this because I think that the presence of the S-Class in SH4 is VITAL!

09-07-06, 05:03 PM	#11
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	What would SHIII look like if they excluded the VIIC...? I just LOVE it when its historically correct! __________________

09-08-06, 07:58 AM	#13
MadMike Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	If the DevTeam ever get's the notion to model the S-boat, here's some interior pictures- From- http://thesaltysailor.com/s-boats/graphics.htm More interior shots can be found here, near bottom of page- http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/s-boats4.html Yours, Mike Last edited by MadMike; 09-08-06 at 08:01 AM.

09-09-06, 12:34 PM	#14
ricnunes Watch Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Excelent pictures inded, thanks for posting them Madmike! Last edited by ricnunes; 09-11-06 at 06:48 AM.