Introducing some new aircraft for SH3 (pics inside) - Need advice...

JU_88 · 07-24-06, 07:34 AM

Ok, so first off, Im teaching my self 3DS MAX, So weather or not any models I make end up in a mod or not, it doesnt mean I am wasting my time - as Im enjoying what I am doing regardless.

Right, so here is what I would like to accomplish.

1) Model several new, low poly historic aircraft to SH3

2) Create suitable textures/skins for the models that will display correctly in-game

3) Export the aircraft in to SH3 and apply some of the existing aircraft properties to them. eg - AI, ordenace (bombs), animated propellers, turrets and bomb bay doors where nessecary.

I am assuming this is possible, as several new ships have been successfully added to SH3 recently. (Please correct me if im wrong)

So far I have only modelled only one aircraft - A major player in ASW that is missing in SH3 - the Lockheed Hudson (see below)
I am about to begin work on a Mosquito

Other planes I hope to make are:
Bristol Beaufighter
B-17
Halifax
Armstrong whitworth whitley

I am NOT an experienced modder in any way, I dont have much of a clue how to acheive what I want - beside create the aircraft models themselves.
I CANNOT do this on my own, I will need a lot of help from expirienced modders here.

So my first question is how possible it to add these models (without SH3s SDK)
And who is willing to help me with this mini project.

At the moment the poly count is approx 1000, anyone know the poly count of the flight models already in sh3? (which look rather shabby - epecially the wellington)

Thanks for any feed back.

Pants · 07-24-06, 07:57 AM

Very nice...VERY nice ideed

You could alway do some of the F.A.A..Fleet Air Arm aircraft
http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ai...craftindex.htm
Keep up the great work...SO looking forward to these

Yay the Mossie

What A? · 07-24-06, 08:30 AM

Ohh!!! Ohh!!! Can't wait! You doing a GREAT work.

I am sure you will get all help you need.

Btw. I love your sig!

Redwine · 07-24-06, 08:44 AM

Great, nice ! many thanks for your job !

bigboywooly · 07-24-06, 09:07 AM

The polycount recommended for aircraft is between 1 and 2 thousand but the battleships are up to 35000 so if your over the 2 dont worry too much - will only be a problem if you have loads on the screen at one time

Yes aircraft can be added - the floatplanes are an addition http://web.telia.com/~u18230645/ Sergbuto did them so he may be the best to help you

Maybe one aircraft to do is the Spitfire which can double up as the Seafire for carrier use as you tend to see a lot more fighters than bombers - well I do anyway

Good luck in your model

Myxale · 07-24-06, 11:21 AM

Wow! Outstanding model!
This would so rock in SH3. To bad we all have to crash-dive on sight! :hmm:

Shadow9216 · 07-24-06, 04:11 PM

Can I put in a vote for the F4F Wildcat (RN Martlet)? It was a MAJOR player in ASW hunter-killer patrols in conjunction with the Avengers. In brief, the fighters would strafe the boat, forcing it to dive whereupon the Avenger would run in with rockets, depth charges or "Fido" homing torpedoes.

While Seafire/Spitfire would be good to have for specific missions (Battle of Britain, aircraft ferry to Malta, etc) I humbly submit the Wildcat would be a much more useful adversary in the near term.

sergbuto · 07-24-06, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

So my first question is how possible it to add these models (without SH3s SDK)

You can use program Pack3D by Sansal to import the model to SH3. It is relatively easy to do.

sergbuto · 07-24-06, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

At the moment the poly count is approx 1000

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

The polycount recommended for aircraft is between 1 and 2 thousand but the battleships are up to 35000 so if your over the 2 dont worry too much - will only be a problem if you have loads on the screen at one time

With 4000 polys which are still within the limits recommended by Devs for aircraft one can make fine aircraft models, such f.e. this Mosquito

bigboywooly · 07-24-06, 04:56 PM

Dammit Serg why do you keep taunting us with these new units:rotfl: :rotfl:
I suppose that one is not ready for download ?

Just noticed you have the Avro and Blenheim there too

Pants · 07-24-06, 05:04 PM

oh oh oh the mossie...SAWEET
any chance of any screenies of the avro and the blenheim please?
I so cant wait..sergbuto simply OUTSTANDING work..what more needs to be said

sergbuto · 07-24-06, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Dammit Serg why do you keep taunting us with these new units:rotfl: :rotfl:
I suppose that one is not ready for download ?

Just noticed you have the Avro and Blenheim there too

Actually, Mosquito is not new. The screenshots were posted on these forums in December, 2005. I did not release the model because I could not make transparant glass for the cabin (which irritates me a lot) and wanted to have the aircraft with rockets as well.

Avro and Blenheim were made by Vaa. They are on the level of SH3 stock models. He also made Wildcat and some other aircrafts (do not remember all).

bigboywooly · 07-24-06, 05:13 PM

JU_88 · 07-24-06, 06:31 PM

You mean I did all this for nothing????

LOL.

bigboywooly · 07-24-06, 06:40 PM

Not if you can get cockpit transparent as I dont think Serg will release his version
Go for it

07-24-06, 07:34 AM	#1
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Introducing some new aircraft for SH3 (pics inside) - Need advice... Ok, so first off, Im teaching my self 3DS MAX, So weather or not any models I make end up in a mod or not, it doesnt mean I am wasting my time - as Im enjoying what I am doing regardless. Right, so here is what I would like to accomplish. 1) Model several new, low poly historic aircraft to SH3 2) Create suitable textures/skins for the models that will display correctly in-game 3) Export the aircraft in to SH3 and apply some of the existing aircraft properties to them. eg - AI, ordenace (bombs), animated propellers, turrets and bomb bay doors where nessecary. I am assuming this is possible, as several new ships have been successfully added to SH3 recently. (Please correct me if im wrong) So far I have only modelled only one aircraft - A major player in ASW that is missing in SH3 - the Lockheed Hudson (see below) I am about to begin work on a Mosquito Other planes I hope to make are: Bristol Beaufighter B-17 Halifax Armstrong whitworth whitley I am NOT an experienced modder in any way, I dont have much of a clue how to acheive what I want - beside create the aircraft models themselves. I CANNOT do this on my own, I will need a lot of help from expirienced modders here. So my first question is how possible it to add these models (without SH3s SDK) And who is willing to help me with this mini project. At the moment the poly count is approx 1000, anyone know the poly count of the flight models already in sh3? (which look rather shabby - epecially the wellington) Thanks for any feed back. Last edited by JU_88; 07-24-06 at 08:04 AM.

07-24-06, 07:57 AM	#2
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Very nice...VERY nice ideed You could alway do some of the F.A.A..Fleet Air Arm aircraft http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ai...craftindex.htm Keep up the great work...SO looking forward to these Yay the Mossie __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user Last edited by Pants; 07-24-06 at 08:00 AM.

07-24-06, 08:30 AM	#3
What A? A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 74 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ohh!!! Ohh!!! Can't wait! You doing a GREAT work. I am sure you will get all help you need. Btw. I love your sig! __________________ Always check your radar.

07-24-06, 08:44 AM	#4
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Great, nice ! many thanks for your job ! __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

07-24-06, 09:07 AM	#5
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	The polycount recommended for aircraft is between 1 and 2 thousand but the battleships are up to 35000 so if your over the 2 dont worry too much - will only be a problem if you have loads on the screen at one time Yes aircraft can be added - the floatplanes are an addition http://web.telia.com/~u18230645/ Sergbuto did them so he may be the best to help you Maybe one aircraft to do is the Spitfire which can double up as the Seafire for carrier use as you tend to see a lot more fighters than bombers - well I do anyway Good luck in your model __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

07-24-06, 11:21 AM	#6
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Wow! Outstanding model! This would so rock in SH3. To bad we all have to crash-dive on sight! :hmm:

07-24-06, 04:11 PM	#7
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	Can I put in a vote for the F4F Wildcat (RN Martlet)? It was a MAJOR player in ASW hunter-killer patrols in conjunction with the Avengers. In brief, the fighters would strafe the boat, forcing it to dive whereupon the Avenger would run in with rockets, depth charges or "Fido" homing torpedoes. While Seafire/Spitfire would be good to have for specific missions (Battle of Britain, aircraft ferry to Malta, etc) I humbly submit the Wildcat would be a much more useful adversary in the near term.

07-24-06, 04:56 PM	#10
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Dammit Serg why do you keep taunting us with these new units:rotfl: :rotfl: I suppose that one is not ready for download ? Just noticed you have the Avro and Blenheim there too __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

07-24-06, 05:04 PM	#11
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	oh oh oh the mossie...SAWEET any chance of any screenies of the avro and the blenheim please? I so cant wait..sergbuto simply OUTSTANDING work..what more needs to be said __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user Last edited by Pants; 07-24-06 at 05:08 PM.

07-24-06, 05:13 PM	#13
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	__________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

07-24-06, 06:31 PM	#14
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	You mean I did all this for nothing???? LOL.

07-24-06, 06:40 PM	#15
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Not if you can get cockpit transparent as I dont think Serg will release his version Go for it __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41