My opinions on GW and NYGTW

JayW. · 07-23-06, 11:29 AM

Both are good but I discovered something fundamental wrong with both mods.

Grey Wolves is too expansive with the graphics that even the PCs with top notch graphic cards can't run SH3 without slight lag after it initializing a mission or a career mission. I have a new Dell XPS 400 with a state-of-art graphic card.
On my old 2002 Gateway PC, the graphic card was burned out literally after playing SH3 with Grey Wolves.
On the other side of the spectrum, it is the NYGTW mod which runs perfectly. Its problem is too little harbor traffic and non-existant air traffic in ports.

I propose that modders create a supermod which is a sort of hybrid of the two mods, a supermod that isn't an overly excess of graphics and keeping the NYGTW games system but adding some of the cosmetic appealing asspects of GW. I'm serious here, guys. Work with each other. There is not any reason that the NYGTW team and The GW team can figure something out.

Meanhile, I am strongly considering going back to The Real U-Boat 1.45 mod.

JayW.

Sulikate · 07-23-06, 11:46 AM

Well, my pc isn't THAT top notch, and I play GW without major slowdowns:

Athlon 64 3000+
1.5GB RAM DDR
GeForce 6600 256MB

A hybrid mod wouldn't appeal to me, but some may like it.

mr chris · 07-23-06, 11:55 AM

Mycomputer is:
3.00GHz processor
2.00GB ram
128 graphics card
256 sound card

I play with stock game with 1.4 patch and GW, I have had to stop playing because the frame rate jumps between 120 and 20 in all stations causeing the game to be very choppy. have tryed everything possble to fix it but can't seem to do it.
any sergustions?

Wulfmann · 07-23-06, 12:00 PM

I have no problem running GW so must assume what Dell calls state of the art I call obsolete.
What card is in the Dell?
Also, RAM plays a big role in SH3 and in GW I suggest 2 GB DDR RAM for the harbors to run good.
Another thing to remember is what else you have running on your PC. I kept my old PC for email, photos, music files etc and run my 64 bit for my newer games so very little other crap that slows down games is running on it.
I am not trying to trash your system but I often hear people say they have it all goin on to find they are not running much.
A 256 VC does not mean much if the core is at 250 or the interface memory is 128 and it has 4 pipes. Another 256MB VC can have 16 pipes 600 core with 256MB interface memory and guess what, it runs much better. There is a difference in what is marketed as "State of the Art" and what really is.

That siad there are things you can do to help this. Open the SCR in mission editor (first make a back up copy). If you are like me you only use a few harbors to work from. You can look at those areas and either eliminate things or just move them somewhere away from your harbor to reduce the items slowing down the game.
You can redirect the bombers or reduce their numbers which will help a lot as their effects are taxing. Save it and try it out. With a back up ready to save you from any mistake you can tweak your harbors to suit your system.
I have my GW heavily modded as I like 90 percent but find many things lacking. That is my opinion and I have modded to suit that and not asked them to make everyone elses GW the way I think it should be.

Wulfmann

Godalmighty83 · 07-23-06, 12:05 PM

my rig- 3.2ghz
2gig ram
x700 256 card.

stormy weather kills my machine if i use GW. seriously in fine weather i get about 50fps on bridge view, middle of a large storm closer to 7 or 8.

mr chris · 07-23-06, 12:05 PM

Wulfmann i have alot of music on my computer do you think that this is the reason that my game is running so slowly? If so is the any way in which i could move my music to another part of the computer so it does not affect the game?

Gizzmoe · 07-23-06, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mr chris

128 graphics card

What´s the exact type? You can find out by running dxdiag (Start/Run, dxdiag), look for the name in the "Anzeige" tab.

mr chris · 07-23-06, 12:12 PM

RADEON X300SE 128MB HYPER MEMORY

zzsteven · 07-23-06, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr chris

128 graphics card

What´s the exact type? You can find out by running dxdiag (Start/Run, dxdiag), look for the name in the "Anzeige" tab.

Also known as the "Display" tab.

zz

JayW. · 07-23-06, 12:24 PM

I have a Dell XPS-400.
Dell XPS DXP051
Intell (R)
Pentium (R) D CPU 2.080 GHz
2.79 GHZ. 1.00 GB of RAM
Physical Address Extension.

The showdown happens when I go up to the bridge for the first time. As I turn around it jumps a lot but on the 2nd rotation, it works fine.

JayW.

mr chris · 07-23-06, 12:28 PM

My computer is also a dell. It's a dimension 9151
my frame rate is always jumping between 20 and 120 in harbour and out at sea its just too jumpy to play.

JayW. · 07-23-06, 12:47 PM

But after the initital look-around on the bridge, the frame rate was perfect

Jay W.

mr chris · 07-23-06, 12:51 PM

I think i might have to upgrade my graphics card or find a way of moving my music. It is such a pain not being able to play as i have a months holiday from work, so i can crack on thought the patrols.

Gizzmoe · 07-23-06, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr chris

I think i might have to upgrade my graphics card

You should do that, the X300SE is a very slow card.

Quote:

or find a way of moving my music.

What music? The gramophone music for SH3?

mr chris · 07-23-06, 01:00 PM

Gizmoe, My music is my song itunes i have nearly 2000 songs on there about 5Gb.
if i was to update my graphics card which one do you recomend? And how much would it cost?

07-23-06, 11:29 AM	#1
JayW. Gunner Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	My opinions on GW and NYGTW Both are good but I discovered something fundamental wrong with both mods. Grey Wolves is too expansive with the graphics that even the PCs with top notch graphic cards can't run SH3 without slight lag after it initializing a mission or a career mission. I have a new Dell XPS 400 with a state-of-art graphic card. On my old 2002 Gateway PC, the graphic card was burned out literally after playing SH3 with Grey Wolves. On the other side of the spectrum, it is the NYGTW mod which runs perfectly. Its problem is too little harbor traffic and non-existant air traffic in ports. I propose that modders create a supermod which is a sort of hybrid of the two mods, a supermod that isn't an overly excess of graphics and keeping the NYGTW games system but adding some of the cosmetic appealing asspects of GW. I'm serious here, guys. Work with each other. There is not any reason that the NYGTW team and The GW team can figure something out. Meanhile, I am strongly considering going back to The Real U-Boat 1.45 mod. JayW.

07-23-06, 11:46 AM	#2
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well, my pc isn't THAT top notch, and I play GW without major slowdowns: Athlon 64 3000+ 1.5GB RAM DDR GeForce 6600 256MB A hybrid mod wouldn't appeal to me, but some may like it. __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

07-23-06, 12:00 PM	#4
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have no problem running GW so must assume what Dell calls state of the art I call obsolete. What card is in the Dell? Also, RAM plays a big role in SH3 and in GW I suggest 2 GB DDR RAM for the harbors to run good. Another thing to remember is what else you have running on your PC. I kept my old PC for email, photos, music files etc and run my 64 bit for my newer games so very little other crap that slows down games is running on it. I am not trying to trash your system but I often hear people say they have it all goin on to find they are not running much. A 256 VC does not mean much if the core is at 250 or the interface memory is 128 and it has 4 pipes. Another 256MB VC can have 16 pipes 600 core with 256MB interface memory and guess what, it runs much better. There is a difference in what is marketed as "State of the Art" and what really is. That siad there are things you can do to help this. Open the SCR in mission editor (first make a back up copy). If you are like me you only use a few harbors to work from. You can look at those areas and either eliminate things or just move them somewhere away from your harbor to reduce the items slowing down the game. You can redirect the bombers or reduce their numbers which will help a lot as their effects are taxing. Save it and try it out. With a back up ready to save you from any mistake you can tweak your harbors to suit your system. I have my GW heavily modded as I like 90 percent but find many things lacking. That is my opinion and I have modded to suit that and not asked them to make everyone elses GW the way I think it should be. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

07-23-06, 12:05 PM	#5
Godalmighty83 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	my rig- 3.2ghz 2gig ram x700 256 card. stormy weather kills my machine if i use GW. seriously in fine weather i get about 50fps on bridge view, middle of a large storm closer to 7 or 8. __________________ Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

07-23-06, 11:55 AM	#3
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Mycomputer is: 3.00GHz processor 2.00GB ram 128 graphics card 256 sound card I play with stock game with 1.4 patch and GW, I have had to stop playing because the frame rate jumps between 120 and 20 in all stations causeing the game to be very choppy. have tryed everything possble to fix it but can't seem to do it. any sergustions?

07-23-06, 12:12 PM	#8
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	RADEON X300SE 128MB HYPER MEMORY

07-23-06, 12:24 PM	#10
JayW. Gunner Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I have a Dell XPS-400. Dell XPS DXP051 Intell (R) Pentium (R) D CPU 2.080 GHz 2.79 GHZ. 1.00 GB of RAM Physical Address Extension. The showdown happens when I go up to the bridge for the first time. As I turn around it jumps a lot but on the 2nd rotation, it works fine. JayW.

07-23-06, 12:28 PM	#11
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	My computer is also a dell. It's a dimension 9151 my frame rate is always jumping between 20 and 120 in harbour and out at sea its just too jumpy to play.

07-23-06, 12:47 PM	#12
JayW. Gunner Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	But after the initital look-around on the bridge, the frame rate was perfect Jay W.

07-23-06, 12:51 PM	#13
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	I think i might have to upgrade my graphics card or find a way of moving my music. It is such a pain not being able to play as i have a months holiday from work, so i can crack on thought the patrols.

07-23-06, 01:00 PM	#15
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Gizmoe, My music is my song itunes i have nearly 2000 songs on there about 5Gb. if i was to update my graphics card which one do you recomend? And how much would it cost?