Pacific Storm Demo - WAIT!!!

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 06-24-06, 08:31 AM

Unless you don't have a problem installing Starforce on your machine, DON'T INSTALL PACIFIC STORM demo...

it looks like it tries to install Starforce protection onto your system...

--Mike

Hunter · 06-28-06, 01:51 AM

Starforce protection of Demo. What on Earth are you talking about?

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 06-28-06, 07:23 AM

yeah... doesn't seem to make much sense, does it.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...d=m-1-27960957

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/news...searchid=10066

http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=320

http://www.ogre3d.org/phpBB2/viewtop...8a0f472c81d1ae

the last link is from the OGRE forums... the forum of the 3D engine that Pacific Storm is made with...

ok, you've been alerted... go ahead and install it if you want...

--Mike

SUBMAN1 · 06-28-06, 10:23 AM

Why are devs still using this? I refuse to ever load any game with this protection without cracking it first. The other one I can't stand is Steam that came along with HL2 - again, I never installed Steam with HL2 and yes you can play HL2 without steam.

An example of devs going the right way is Oblivion. SImple DVD check is all the protection on this game, and I purchased the more expensive collecters edition because of it.

I don't get the SF mentallity.

-S

NeonSamurai · 06-28-06, 01:11 PM

Well typicaly its not the devs who decide on the copy protection, its the publishing house.

Honestly i dont think the publishers who decide on copy protections think about it at all they just see copy protections as a method of converting pirates to "sales" and actualy dont think about the numbers of legit customers they drive away, and many seem to think that every pirated copy = 1 lost sale (which is absurd). So they stick with these draconian copy protection schemes and stick their fingers in there ears, meanwhile the priates quickly get rid of the copy protection and live happily ever after, while often some to several of the game's actual purchasers suffer with said copy protection.

Sonarman · 06-28-06, 03:26 PM

Yeah, the strange thing is that both GMX who will publish in the UK and CDV who will pubish in the US have stated that they wil probably not bee using Starforce in the release version...wierd.

Hunter · 06-29-06, 02:24 AM

SF is not hardcoded into Pacific Storm lol. The game is released by Buka in Russia and uses Starforce, but not the demo for d/l. Protection of PS to be released in Europe and other countries depends on CDV and other publishers.

Sonarman · 06-29-06, 03:23 AM

The demo which I downloaded and installed defininitely had some form of protection which did look a lot like starforce.

SUBMAN1 · 06-29-06, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter

SF is not hardcoded into Pacific Storm lol. The game is released by Buka in Russia and uses Starforce, but not the demo for d/l. Protection of PS to be released in Europe and other countries depends on CDV and other publishers.

Demo's are natorious for having Starforce. The point is, if you release the demo without starforce, you have released the unencrypted executable, making the cracking of the actual game when released rather easy.

-S

Hunter · 06-30-06, 02:41 AM

PS demo exe contains SF library to protect it from cracking but not SF protection installed into your system.

06-24-06, 08:31 AM	#1
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Pacific Storm Demo - WAIT!!! Unless you don't have a problem installing Starforce on your machine, DON'T INSTALL PACIFIC STORM demo... it looks like it tries to install Starforce protection onto your system... --Mike

06-28-06, 10:23 AM	#4
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why are devs still using this? I refuse to ever load any game with this protection without cracking it first. The other one I can't stand is Steam that came along with HL2 - again, I never installed Steam with HL2 and yes you can play HL2 without steam. An example of devs going the right way is Oblivion. SImple DVD check is all the protection on this game, and I purchased the more expensive collecters edition because of it. I don't get the SF mentallity. -S __________________

06-28-06, 01:11 PM	#5
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Well typicaly its not the devs who decide on the copy protection, its the publishing house. Honestly i dont think the publishers who decide on copy protections think about it at all they just see copy protections as a method of converting pirates to "sales" and actualy dont think about the numbers of legit customers they drive away, and many seem to think that every pirated copy = 1 lost sale (which is absurd). So they stick with these draconian copy protection schemes and stick their fingers in there ears, meanwhile the priates quickly get rid of the copy protection and live happily ever after, while often some to several of the game's actual purchasers suffer with said copy protection. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

06-28-06, 01:51 AM	#2
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Starforce protection of Demo. What on Earth are you talking about?

06-28-06, 07:23 AM	#3
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	yeah... doesn't seem to make much sense, does it. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...d=m-1-27960957 http://www.firingsquad.com/news/news...searchid=10066 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=320 http://www.ogre3d.org/phpBB2/viewtop...8a0f472c81d1ae the last link is from the OGRE forums... the forum of the 3D engine that Pacific Storm is made with... ok, you've been alerted... go ahead and install it if you want... --Mike

06-28-06, 03:26 PM	#6
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Yeah, the strange thing is that both GMX who will publish in the UK and CDV who will pubish in the US have stated that they wil probably not bee using Starforce in the release version...wierd.

06-29-06, 02:24 AM	#7
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	SF is not hardcoded into Pacific Storm lol. The game is released by Buka in Russia and uses Starforce, but not the demo for d/l. Protection of PS to be released in Europe and other countries depends on CDV and other publishers.

06-29-06, 03:23 AM	#8
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	The demo which I downloaded and installed defininitely had some form of protection which did look a lot like starforce.

06-30-06, 02:41 AM	#10
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	PS demo exe contains SF library to protect it from cracking but not SF protection installed into your system.