NYGM Tonnage War v2.0 - U-boat Visual Update

Der Teddy Bar · 06-09-06, 05:43 PM

Guys,
Thanks for the feedback and we are looking very hard into how to best balance out the more realistic improvements to the enemy visual abilities.

NYGM have not yet modded the u-boat visual.

I will state that in my current in game testing of the U-boat visuals, that my u-boat spots escorts no differently than previously. During the day I am spotting escorts at ranges from over the horizon to about 7000, possibly a fraction lower.

BUT... I am incurring more instances where the escort has spotted me before my crew have spotted him. This should not be the case.

This is my interpretation of what is happening before.
Previously an escort was essentially blind at distances over 3000 metres when travelling along. Because of this, an escort could come into your zone of detection; he could sail around up and down closer and further just as long as he stayed far enough away nothing would happen.

The escort could have, and most likely did, spend a lot of time within your detection zone before detection. That is, even though you detected the escort when he was on the horizon, the escort had been in out detection zone for 10 minutes.

This is my interpretation of what is happening now.
On a perfect day the escort can now see your u-boat bow on at approx 3000+ and side on at approx 8000+. This is a calm day, 0mps, no clouds, sunny....

Where as previously the escort would sail up and down in and out without detecting you, up until you detected him, he is now detecting you because he can see further.

As like the Crash Dive Blues, NYGM's modifications have exposed a standard SHIII behaviour that was either not an issue as it had been managed.

Having spent that last 4 days going over the U-boat visual sensor, I have come to the conclusion that the u-boat AI has no day/night differences and for all intensive purposed, the U-boat visual options in the sensors,cfg are operationally impaired.

I am releasing an interim patch to re-establish the balance between the u-boat and the enemy detection abilities. This patch simply reduces the required surface area required to detect an enemy ship.

This update changes the detection by your u-boat crew of an escort coming at you bow on from 8700 metres up to over 13,000 metres.

The update is here http://www.filefactory.com/?1ed0b0

The main menu will now read NYGM Tonnage War v2.01

Again, thankyou for your feedback and your support

THE_MASK · 06-09-06, 09:30 PM

Legend , thanks .

Fangschuss · 06-09-06, 10:03 PM

Thanks DL now

Rose · 06-09-06, 11:30 PM

I'm sure the installation has worked (using JSGME) because it notified me that it would overwrite some files, but in the SH3 menu it doesnt say 2.01... In fact it doesn't say anything to mention NYGM (it didn't before the update anyway)...

Gizzmoe · 06-09-06, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose

I'm sure the installation has worked (using JSGME) because it notified me that it would overwrite some files, but in the SH3 menu it doesnt say 2.01... In fact it doesn't say anything to mention NYGM (it didn't before the update anyway)...

Do you see the NYGM startup screen?

Der Teddy Bar · 06-10-06, 12:09 AM

As per Gizzmoe's question... do you get this screen when starting?

Myxale · 06-10-06, 01:43 AM

Thanx Teddy for bein' this quick! I know that you guys must consider alot of factors when changing one of your files. So thanx for this quick-fix!

Rosencrantz · 06-10-06, 02:20 AM

Thanks a lot!

Rose · 06-10-06, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Teddy Bar

As per Gizzmoe's question... do you get this screen when starting?

Yes I do. I always have.

baxter · 06-10-06, 01:40 PM

Thanks for the fix, Teddy.

Der Teddy Bar · 06-10-06, 05:11 PM

Rose,
At the Main Menu screen along the bottom left hand side will be some text that should say NYGM Tonnage War v2.01 after the NYGM Tonnage War v2.0 - U-boat Visual Update has been installed correctly.

Rose · 06-10-06, 07:37 PM

You talking about the text that scrolls along at the bottom? When I use SH3Cmdr, all it says is "Loaded using SH3 Commander -- Good hunting." But no NYGM 2.01.

Der Teddy Bar · 06-10-06, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose

You talking about the text that scrolls along at the bottom? When I use SH3Cmdr, all it says is "Loaded using SH3 Commander -- Good hunting." But no NYGM 2.01.

Might have to see if we can get a NYGM Version added on...

Taurolas · 06-11-06, 09:28 AM

guys can anybody point me in the right direction for downloading NYGM_TW_2.0_U-Boat_Visual_Sensor_Update_to_2.01.7z it seems that filefactory,fileplanet and or rapidshare hate me (DTB.. any change of putting it on your site?)i look forward to testing it out.

Gizzmoe · 06-11-06, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurolas

guys can anybody point me in the right direction for downloading NYGM_TW_2.0_U-Boat_Visual_Sensor_Update_to_2.01.7z it seems that filefactory,fileplanet and or rapidshare hate me (DTB.. any change of putting it on your site?)i look forward to testing it out.

I´ve uploaded it to my webspace:
http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...ate_to_2.01.7z

06-09-06, 05:43 PM	#1
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	NYGM Tonnage War v2.0 - U-boat Visual Update Guys, Thanks for the feedback and we are looking very hard into how to best balance out the more realistic improvements to the enemy visual abilities. NYGM have not yet modded the u-boat visual. I will state that in my current in game testing of the U-boat visuals, that my u-boat spots escorts no differently than previously. During the day I am spotting escorts at ranges from over the horizon to about 7000, possibly a fraction lower. BUT... I am incurring more instances where the escort has spotted me before my crew have spotted him. This should not be the case. This is my interpretation of what is happening before. Previously an escort was essentially blind at distances over 3000 metres when travelling along. Because of this, an escort could come into your zone of detection; he could sail around up and down closer and further just as long as he stayed far enough away nothing would happen. The escort could have, and most likely did, spend a lot of time within your detection zone before detection. That is, even though you detected the escort when he was on the horizon, the escort had been in out detection zone for 10 minutes. This is my interpretation of what is happening now. On a perfect day the escort can now see your u-boat bow on at approx 3000+ and side on at approx 8000+. This is a calm day, 0mps, no clouds, sunny.... Where as previously the escort would sail up and down in and out without detecting you, up until you detected him, he is now detecting you because he can see further. As like the Crash Dive Blues, NYGM's modifications have exposed a standard SHIII behaviour that was either not an issue as it had been managed. Having spent that last 4 days going over the U-boat visual sensor, I have come to the conclusion that the u-boat AI has no day/night differences and for all intensive purposed, the U-boat visual options in the sensors,cfg are operationally impaired. I am releasing an interim patch to re-establish the balance between the u-boat and the enemy detection abilities. This patch simply reduces the required surface area required to detect an enemy ship. This update changes the detection by your u-boat crew of an escort coming at you bow on from 8700 metres up to over 13,000 metres. The update is here http://www.filefactory.com/?1ed0b0 The main menu will now read NYGM Tonnage War v2.01 Again, thankyou for your feedback and your support

06-09-06, 10:03 PM	#3
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Thanks DL now __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

06-09-06, 09:30 PM	#2
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Legend , thanks .

06-09-06, 11:30 PM	#4
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm sure the installation has worked (using JSGME) because it notified me that it would overwrite some files, but in the SH3 menu it doesnt say 2.01... In fact it doesn't say anything to mention NYGM (it didn't before the update anyway)...

06-10-06, 12:09 AM	#6
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As per Gizzmoe's question... do you get this screen when starting?

06-10-06, 01:43 AM	#7
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Thanx Teddy for bein' this quick! I know that you guys must consider alot of factors when changing one of your files. So thanx for this quick-fix!

06-10-06, 02:20 AM	#8
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Thanks a lot!

06-10-06, 01:40 PM	#10
baxter 中国水兵 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 282 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the fix, Teddy.

06-10-06, 05:11 PM	#11
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Rose, At the Main Menu screen along the bottom left hand side will be some text that should say NYGM Tonnage War v2.01 after the NYGM Tonnage War v2.0 - U-boat Visual Update has been installed correctly.

06-10-06, 07:37 PM	#12
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You talking about the text that scrolls along at the bottom? When I use SH3Cmdr, all it says is "Loaded using SH3 Commander -- Good hunting." But no NYGM 2.01.

06-11-06, 09:28 AM	#14
Taurolas Medic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Notts UK Posts: 163 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	guys can anybody point me in the right direction for downloading NYGM_TW_2.0_U-Boat_Visual_Sensor_Update_to_2.01.7z it seems that filefactory,fileplanet and or rapidshare hate me (DTB.. any change of putting it on your site?)i look forward to testing it out.