USA - Eastern Seaboard.....U-Boat Patrol Tactics

cdrsubron7 · 06-08-06, 08:26 PM

I'm sorry to say that I'm not that knowledgable about the patrol tactics that the German U-Boats used when patrolling the Eastern Seaboard of the US. What are the best hunting spots for warships other than destroyers. Right now I feel like I'm tripping over them. I'm in my third patrol in the U-802, a Type IXC. Current date of this patrol is May 25, 1942. I'm currently just southeast of Halifax. Any helpful hints or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

cdrsubron7

The_Blockade_Runner · 06-08-06, 08:39 PM

Go blow up Galveston, leave none alive

Ducimus · 06-08-06, 08:40 PM

Offhand id say your not going to find any warships other then DD's and armed trawlers. I do know in Unfied campaign theres a task force that orginates somwhere south of NY, and runs through the straights between the Eastern florida coast and the bahamas, rounds florida, skips the gulf of mexico i think, and heads down towards panama. At least, thats as near as i can descern from the reports ive gotten about them.

Most of the merchant traffic which traverses the whole length of the eastern seaboard, is closer inshore up on the continental shelf in about 20-30 meters of water. If you hate shallow water as much as i do, DB98, and the sector just northh of it is a good spot to frequent.

I think the waters NE of New York, towards halifix, but SE of halifax is somtimes productive as well.

JSalinger · 06-08-06, 10:55 PM

I read somewhere that if you want to bag a liner or two, there's a route for them going from Halifax to Liverpool.

And no, I haven't gotten any there yet. lol I'm in the middle of raiding Curacao in my Type IXB.

perisher · 06-09-06, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JSalinger

I'm in the middle of raiding Curacao in my Type IXB.

That's a good one. A target rich environment if ever there was one. Waters nice and deep right up to the harbour. I hit it in early 1943 and got four tankers!

bookworm_020 · 06-09-06, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JSalinger

I read somewhere that if you want to bag a liner or two, there's a route for them going from Halifax to Liverpool.

And no, I haven't gotten any there yet. lol I'm in the middle of raiding Curacao in my Type IXB.

If your waiting off Halifax the liners come in from the SSE, about 30km of the coast, this goes on till 43', but you also intercept convoys around here as well. BF 13 or 15 NW coner is other place to intercept Liners.

Good and good hunting

JSalinger · 06-09-06, 08:29 AM

It was good hunting! LOL Okay, results from raiding Curacao are as follows: 3x T3 sunk (couldn't believe it myself until I actually looked at my patrol log), 1x T2, 1x C2 sunk. And I looked at my latest patrol orders this morning...BDU's sending me to the Arctic.

They always send me somewhere unproductive after a successful patrol, it never fails. lol

Keelbuster · 06-09-06, 07:09 PM

Look for the main passageways north of Curacao, turning NW towards the Keys. I've had a bit of single merchant (cough) hunting there. Otherwise, the best hunting ground, in my mind, is where the St. Lawrence meets the atlantic. Huge convoys, Liners, etc. Lush, abundant tonnage.

Kb

Ducimus · 06-09-06, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Keelbuster

I've had a bit of single merchant (cough) hunting there.

Your back!

As for single merchants.. Not in MY game

After mid 42 i have them spawning in mini convoys of 3 ships with at least two elite DE's to give me something to think about

Keelbuster · 06-09-06, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Your back!

Har - yea. Glad that you've beefed the single merchants up. I remember losing my favourite boat in a 3 ship convoy - 1 troop transport, 2 Black swans, clear weather, med. I was careless, and they were relentless. But yea - I'm back, kinda. I got lost in Hitman- blood money for a bit. Different kind of silent hunter. Finished it every which way. But right now I'm back on ol' u45, july 43, heading back to bergen and hoping to get my schnorkel. Career tonnage >1.1m.

I want this one to end so that I can start TW2

Kb

Ducimus · 06-09-06, 07:52 PM

TW2 should give you a good run for your money. You can most defiantly kiss that 1 million tons bye bye. If i didnt have so much time invested in my own mods i'd give TW 2 a closer look. As it is, i catagoritically refuse to drop my work. IT would be throwing away a years worth of tinkering, something i wont do. I might however pick it apart and use the bits that i like. I just havent really had the time to go through it yet.

As for the single merchants.. oh keelbuster with the convoy fetish, of course i did! When i travel 20-30 days to a sector, i expect to be put through the ringer a few times. Heh infact, i made every HK group in my game elite. Something most people seem to avoid. I came a hair close to just making ALL crewratings elite. Survivign a depth charging in a type 9 is somethign to write home about. It's really not that much harder then a type 7. The major difference is you can't turn as fast. So presenting a narrow profile is a tad harder. My response is usually to go deeper. :rotfl: I have plenty of memories of creeping along at silent running on the edge of crush depth, with my boat dogpadding. Bow up, stern down, struggling to maintain depth. Fun stuff!

andy_311 · 06-09-06, 07:56 PM

The only place I know wher to hit a liner is either NY harbour or go to ED98 and park your bout mid cente of the inlet and wait for the Big convoy comeing out of Port of Spain,half a dozen Troop ships a cruiser, a Liner, and about half a dozen escorsts.

Keelbuster · 06-09-06, 07:59 PM

Last time I pushed crush depth a DC tweaked my hull and I blew - in 2 seconds. It didn't have time to play audio on the crew damage reports - it was just the death screen. I don't go that deep anymore. I don't go below PD unless I have to. I've evaded 3 DDs at PD. No point in diving - you can dodge really well with the peri. But i've been saying this ever since someone else told me it works. As for elite HK groups, well, yer burned if you get caught. I usually detect them before they detect me. Once I got lured in by the escort carrier. I got her, but her boys got me...

Kb

Ducimus · 06-09-06, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Keelbuster

As for elite HK groups, well, yer burned if you get caught. I usually detect them before they detect me. Once I got lured in by the escort carrier. I got her, but her boys got me...

Kb

*COUGH*These were Elites
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=93666

You can chaulk it up to an IX boats better surface abilities if you want

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cdrsubron7 · 06-09-06, 09:02 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Seems like I've got some good hunting days and nights ahead of me.

cdrsubron7

06-08-06, 08:26 PM	#1
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	USA - Eastern Seaboard.....U-Boat Patrol Tactics I'm sorry to say that I'm not that knowledgable about the patrol tactics that the German U-Boats used when patrolling the Eastern Seaboard of the US. What are the best hunting spots for warships other than destroyers. Right now I feel like I'm tripping over them. I'm in my third patrol in the U-802, a Type IXC. Current date of this patrol is May 25, 1942. I'm currently just southeast of Halifax. Any helpful hints or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. cdrsubron7

06-08-06, 08:39 PM	#2
The_Blockade_Runner Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Go blow up Galveston, leave none alive __________________ U boat warfare, Product of German Engineering. German Engineering in da house

06-08-06, 10:55 PM	#4
JSalinger Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane, WA, USA Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I read somewhere that if you want to bag a liner or two, there's a route for them going from Halifax to Liverpool. And no, I haven't gotten any there yet. lol I'm in the middle of raiding Curacao in my Type IXB. __________________ J. Salinger King of the House

06-09-06, 08:29 AM	#7
JSalinger Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane, WA, USA Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It was good hunting! LOL Okay, results from raiding Curacao are as follows: 3x T3 sunk (couldn't believe it myself until I actually looked at my patrol log), 1x T2, 1x C2 sunk. And I looked at my latest patrol orders this morning...BDU's sending me to the Arctic. They always send me somewhere unproductive after a successful patrol, it never fails. lol __________________ J. Salinger King of the House

06-09-06, 07:09 PM	#8
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Look for the main passageways north of Curacao, turning NW towards the Keys. I've had a bit of single merchant (cough) hunting there. Otherwise, the best hunting ground, in my mind, is where the St. Lawrence meets the atlantic. Huge convoys, Liners, etc. Lush, abundant tonnage. Kb __________________

06-08-06, 08:40 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Offhand id say your not going to find any warships other then DD's and armed trawlers. I do know in Unfied campaign theres a task force that orginates somwhere south of NY, and runs through the straights between the Eastern florida coast and the bahamas, rounds florida, skips the gulf of mexico i think, and heads down towards panama. At least, thats as near as i can descern from the reports ive gotten about them. Most of the merchant traffic which traverses the whole length of the eastern seaboard, is closer inshore up on the continental shelf in about 20-30 meters of water. If you hate shallow water as much as i do, DB98, and the sector just northh of it is a good spot to frequent. I think the waters NE of New York, towards halifix, but SE of halifax is somtimes productive as well.

06-09-06, 07:52 PM	#11
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	TW2 should give you a good run for your money. You can most defiantly kiss that 1 million tons bye bye. If i didnt have so much time invested in my own mods i'd give TW 2 a closer look. As it is, i catagoritically refuse to drop my work. IT would be throwing away a years worth of tinkering, something i wont do. I might however pick it apart and use the bits that i like. I just havent really had the time to go through it yet. As for the single merchants.. oh keelbuster with the convoy fetish, of course i did! When i travel 20-30 days to a sector, i expect to be put through the ringer a few times. Heh infact, i made every HK group in my game elite. Something most people seem to avoid. I came a hair close to just making ALL crewratings elite. Survivign a depth charging in a type 9 is somethign to write home about. It's really not that much harder then a type 7. The major difference is you can't turn as fast. So presenting a narrow profile is a tad harder. My response is usually to go deeper. :rotfl: I have plenty of memories of creeping along at silent running on the edge of crush depth, with my boat dogpadding. Bow up, stern down, struggling to maintain depth. Fun stuff!

06-09-06, 07:56 PM	#12
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	The only place I know wher to hit a liner is either NY harbour or go to ED98 and park your bout mid cente of the inlet and wait for the Big convoy comeing out of Port of Spain,half a dozen Troop ships a cruiser, a Liner, and about half a dozen escorsts.

06-09-06, 07:59 PM	#13
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Last time I pushed crush depth a DC tweaked my hull and I blew - in 2 seconds. It didn't have time to play audio on the crew damage reports - it was just the death screen. I don't go that deep anymore. I don't go below PD unless I have to. I've evaded 3 DDs at PD. No point in diving - you can dodge really well with the peri. But i've been saying this ever since someone else told me it works. As for elite HK groups, well, yer burned if you get caught. I usually detect them before they detect me. Once I got lured in by the escort carrier. I got her, but her boys got me... Kb __________________

06-09-06, 09:02 PM	#15
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Seems like I've got some good hunting days and nights ahead of me. cdrsubron7