SH3 & Starforce. Yay or Nay?

BenG · 05-19-06, 12:20 PM

I've played AOD, SH1 & 2 in the past>

I've recently bought a new (but not top of the range) PC. I really like the look of SH3 but I'm concerned about the problems Starforce might cause.

What are the chances Starforce will cause me problems (bit of a wild question I know) and are they and specific things Starforce will no get along with (Hardware or Software)?

Regards

STEED · 05-19-06, 12:44 PM

Are crap here we go again.

This subject has come up so many times I lost count.

PS Welcome.

Read here for info.
http://www.glop.org/starforce/

BenG · 05-19-06, 12:50 PM

Thanks for the welcome. I've done a forum search under "starforce" but everything seems to be about all the problems it causes.

I'm wondering are these problems rare or common with SH3?

STEED · 05-19-06, 12:52 PM

Well I had SH3 for over 10 months now and all is OK.

Wulfmann · 05-19-06, 01:28 PM

I have 2 PCs and SF messed with one but not the other.
I do not have DVD burners which is where the majority of the problems are. If you get a no CD you can install SH3 but then not run the game. Install the files needed for No-CD then without the DVD in the PC start the game.
I really do not believe NoCDs hurt games like SH3 because we need to reinstall so often from adding mods and screwing things up. I can see how doing CoD one might not need the CD again but even though I use a No-CD I would never let my DVD out of my sight.
I assume you have legally bought SHIII as we insist anyone here support the devs but do what ever it takes to lay waste to the evil SF.
UBI has dropped SF from future games proving there is a God!!!

Wulfmann

joea · 05-19-06, 02:30 PM

I saw the bargain version of SH3 in the stores (in Switzerland) anyone know if this still has SF?

spork542 · 05-19-06, 05:16 PM

All versions have SF I think. I wouldn't count on it not being included.

kiwi_2005 · 05-19-06, 07:37 PM

Submariners take risks everytime they leave port for a patrol, therefore SF shouldn't be your real worry.

Ive had a few weird things happening to my DVD drive, for instance sometimes she just refuses to work so i automatically blame SF, a restart fixes this. Yet ive really had no serious problems so i would say playing SH3 is worth the risk.

morgul001 · 05-20-06, 02:14 AM

I suggest a look at the SimHQ Silent Hunter III forum for a discussion of this. SimHQ is currently (08:00 GMT 20/05/2006) offline for a few hours for maintenance. Once it is back up then you may find some useful posts there.

Salvadoreno · 05-20-06, 03:24 AM

I dont kno wut the big deal is.. I never had any problems with starforce or any visible signs of my computer slowing. I mean, its not noticeable alongside the massive amounts of porn

i download that slows down comps. But i dunno

Wulfmann · 05-20-06, 10:52 AM

Rememebr, you can go to the Starforce web site and get the SF removal tool. Then if you run the game with the DVD and after leaving run the SF removal tool before doing anything else it will not bother other stuff.
It will reinstall SF when you put the DVD back in and run the game.
A No-CD eliminates doing that, though.
It seems like only about 25% had any SF problems of any kind.
But, even if it was 10% that would be 10,000 people for SH3.
If you did not have problems. great!
That, however, does not mean others did not.

Wulfmann

Skubber · 05-20-06, 11:07 AM

I thought seriously about not installing this game because of Starforce. But I did, and it works fine, and it did not mess up my DVD drive.

My best guess from all the posts I've read is that SF negatively affected about 10% of users. Those problems ranged from slightly slower burning times to completely frying the drive.

So installing it is certainly not risk-free, but then it probably won't affect you.

And, in my case, having Silent Hunter was certainly worth the risk.

05-20-06, 11:32 AM

One year and one month now, and not one problem. I have a DVD burner as well, and it works fine.

oRGy · 05-20-06, 11:35 AM

StarFarce caused two different graphics cards to burn out, costing me in all over $300, so I don't reccommend it.

Gizzmoe · 05-20-06, 11:54 AM

Ok, now that this thread has reached the "SF killed my dog!!!" stage itÂ´s a good time to close it.

A few links... Starforce removal tool:
http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

Starforce forum:
http://star-force.com/forum/index.php

05-19-06, 12:20 PM	#1
BenG Watch Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	SH3 & Starforce. Yay or Nay? I've played AOD, SH1 & 2 in the past> I've recently bought a new (but not top of the range) PC. I really like the look of SH3 but I'm concerned about the problems Starforce might cause. What are the chances Starforce will cause me problems (bit of a wild question I know) and are they and specific things Starforce will no get along with (Hardware or Software)? Regards __________________ -Ben Intel Dual Core @ 2.13 GHz (= 4.26 GHz (or so it is claimed!) 4 GB RAM (but due to 32-bit limitation I only get 3.074 GB) Windows Vista (a few compatability issues to begin with but works for me now)

05-19-06, 12:44 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Are crap here we go again. This subject has come up so many times I lost count. PS Welcome. Read here for info. http://www.glop.org/starforce/ __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-19-06, 12:50 PM	#3
BenG Watch Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the welcome. I've done a forum search under "starforce" but everything seems to be about all the problems it causes. I'm wondering are these problems rare or common with SH3? __________________ -Ben Intel Dual Core @ 2.13 GHz (= 4.26 GHz (or so it is claimed!) 4 GB RAM (but due to 32-bit limitation I only get 3.074 GB) Windows Vista (a few compatability issues to begin with but works for me now)

05-19-06, 12:52 PM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Well I had SH3 for over 10 months now and all is OK. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-19-06, 01:28 PM	#5
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have 2 PCs and SF messed with one but not the other. I do not have DVD burners which is where the majority of the problems are. If you get a no CD you can install SH3 but then not run the game. Install the files needed for No-CD then without the DVD in the PC start the game. I really do not believe NoCDs hurt games like SH3 because we need to reinstall so often from adding mods and screwing things up. I can see how doing CoD one might not need the CD again but even though I use a No-CD I would never let my DVD out of my sight. I assume you have legally bought SHIII as we insist anyone here support the devs but do what ever it takes to lay waste to the evil SF. UBI has dropped SF from future games proving there is a God!!! Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

05-19-06, 02:30 PM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I saw the bargain version of SH3 in the stores (in Switzerland) anyone know if this still has SF?

05-19-06, 05:16 PM	#7
spork542 Chief Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 328 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	All versions have SF I think. I wouldn't count on it not being included. __________________

05-19-06, 07:37 PM	#8
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Submariners take risks everytime they leave port for a patrol, therefore SF shouldn't be your real worry. Ive had a few weird things happening to my DVD drive, for instance sometimes she just refuses to work so i automatically blame SF, a restart fixes this. Yet ive really had no serious problems so i would say playing SH3 is worth the risk. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

05-20-06, 02:14 AM	#9
morgul001 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I suggest a look at the SimHQ Silent Hunter III forum for a discussion of this. SimHQ is currently (08:00 GMT 20/05/2006) offline for a few hours for maintenance. Once it is back up then you may find some useful posts there.

05-20-06, 03:24 AM	#10
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I dont kno wut the big deal is.. I never had any problems with starforce or any visible signs of my computer slowing. I mean, its not noticeable alongside the massive amounts of porn i download that slows down comps. But i dunno __________________

05-20-06, 10:52 AM	#11
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Rememebr, you can go to the Starforce web site and get the SF removal tool. Then if you run the game with the DVD and after leaving run the SF removal tool before doing anything else it will not bother other stuff. It will reinstall SF when you put the DVD back in and run the game. A No-CD eliminates doing that, though. It seems like only about 25% had any SF problems of any kind. But, even if it was 10% that would be 10,000 people for SH3. If you did not have problems. great! That, however, does not mean others did not. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

05-20-06, 11:07 AM	#12
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I thought seriously about not installing this game because of Starforce. But I did, and it works fine, and it did not mess up my DVD drive. My best guess from all the posts I've read is that SF negatively affected about 10% of users. Those problems ranged from slightly slower burning times to completely frying the drive. So installing it is certainly not risk-free, but then it probably won't affect you. And, in my case, having Silent Hunter was certainly worth the risk. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

05-20-06, 11:32 AM	#13
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	One year and one month now, and not one problem. I have a DVD burner as well, and it works fine.

05-20-06, 11:35 AM	#14
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	StarFarce caused two different graphics cards to burn out, costing me in all over $300, so I don't reccommend it. __________________

05-20-06, 11:54 AM	#15
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ok, now that this thread has reached the "SF killed my dog!!!" stage itÂ´s a good time to close it. A few links... Starforce removal tool: http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55 Starforce forum: http://star-force.com/forum/index.php