2 Questions Enemy Subs and odd Grid Assignment

Cybermagi · 05-08-06, 06:02 PM

Pardon me if this topic has already been adressed
But I'm Using Grey Wolves Mod 1.0 + 1.1 update
and had a few radio messages about contact with enemy subs.
are they "actually" moded in the game?
I know sub to sub contacts was extemly rare in WWII

A second question
In November 1941 my patrol grid was assigned to Grid CA-73
odd assignment since the U.S. has not "offically" entered the war.
recon? maybe?

just asking...

ttfn
Cybermagi
U-161 Type XIC
"Schwarze Katze"

92,000 Tons Sunk

November 1941

05-08-06, 08:08 PM

No, there are no enemy subs. No friendly ones either, except that GW uses Rubini's lates Harbour Traffic Mod, which puts them in. The messages are part of IrishRed's RadioLog Mod. They are real messages from the war, thrown in for atmosphere.

As to the Grid assignments, I don't know.

Palladius · 05-08-06, 09:53 PM

Was there much sub/sub contact in the Pacific Theatre between US and Japanese submarines? Based on my (very weak) historical knowledge, neither the British nor French had any significant submarine presence so U-boats would be unlikely to encounter them. It seems that both the Japanese and the US had relied comparitively heavily on submarines...

So a) would they ever detect one another, b) would they ever attempt to engage each other (and how) and c) what's the chances of this being modelled in SH4?

Khayman · 05-09-06, 03:29 PM

A British submarine sank a U-Boat near the Shetlands. Another British sub was sent to a remote area where three U-Boats were refueling. It didn't sink any of them, but it did cause some alarm. Clay Blair tells how "One of the British submarines that maintained a continous watch on Bergen" sank the U-864. The British commander had earlier won a DSO for sinking U-771.

The destruction of U-864 is interesting in that both boats were submerged. The sonar watch picked up the U-Boat and the commander fired four torpodeos by "passive sonar and guesswork". He was the only skipper of any nation to sink another sub while both were submerged.

So the British did have a submarine presence, and one that achieved some success. It's been a while since I've done any reading on the Pacific though, so I'll have to leave that question for someone else.

andy_311 · 05-10-06, 06:10 AM

As for your grid assignment the US might not be at war but you can encounter british ships in the most unlikely places.

05-08-06, 06:02 PM	#1
Cybermagi Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 12 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	2 Questions Enemy Subs and odd Grid Assignment Pardon me if this topic has already been adressed But I'm Using Grey Wolves Mod 1.0 + 1.1 update and had a few radio messages about contact with enemy subs. are they "actually" moded in the game? I know sub to sub contacts was extemly rare in WWII A second question In November 1941 my patrol grid was assigned to Grid CA-73 odd assignment since the U.S. has not "offically" entered the war. recon? maybe? just asking... ttfn Cybermagi U-161 Type XIC "Schwarze Katze" 92,000 Tons Sunk November 1941

05-08-06, 08:08 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	No, there are no enemy subs. No friendly ones either, except that GW uses Rubini's lates Harbour Traffic Mod, which puts them in. The messages are part of IrishRed's RadioLog Mod. They are real messages from the war, thrown in for atmosphere. As to the Grid assignments, I don't know.

05-08-06, 09:53 PM	#3
Palladius Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Was there much sub/sub contact in the Pacific Theatre between US and Japanese submarines? Based on my (very weak) historical knowledge, neither the British nor French had any significant submarine presence so U-boats would be unlikely to encounter them. It seems that both the Japanese and the US had relied comparitively heavily on submarines... So a) would they ever detect one another, b) would they ever attempt to engage each other (and how) and c) what's the chances of this being modelled in SH4?

05-09-06, 03:29 PM	#4
Khayman Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 258 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	A British submarine sank a U-Boat near the Shetlands. Another British sub was sent to a remote area where three U-Boats were refueling. It didn't sink any of them, but it did cause some alarm. Clay Blair tells how "One of the British submarines that maintained a continous watch on Bergen" sank the U-864. The British commander had earlier won a DSO for sinking U-771. The destruction of U-864 is interesting in that both boats were submerged. The sonar watch picked up the U-Boat and the commander fired four torpodeos by "passive sonar and guesswork". He was the only skipper of any nation to sink another sub while both were submerged. So the British did have a submarine presence, and one that achieved some success. It's been a while since I've done any reading on the Pacific though, so I'll have to leave that question for someone else.

05-10-06, 06:10 AM	#5
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	As for your grid assignment the US might not be at war but you can encounter british ships in the most unlikely places.