Who killed the "cat bump" topic

Onkel Neal · 05-08-06, 12:51 PM

As you may have noticed, Subsim has been experiencing server issues. We've been unable to pinpoint the problem but occasionally, usually weekdays from 9am to 5pm CST, the forum server "runs out of memory". Cannot explain why, the memory on normal usage has been monitored and is fine, but then once or twice a day it maxes out and I have to perform a reboot to get the server to respond again.

I've gone through a whole list of things, including paying a server management company to investigate. They have been pretty useless in this case, they were unable to do much more than guess. The datacenter is looking into it too; they tested the server RAM and it was good. I've asked them to change out the memory.

One thing I have been told, when a forum topic is called that has a lot of replies, it has to load the whole query into memoryâ€¦ I don't know if that is the problem but as a test, I've removed the massive "Dead Cat/Bump" topic. I'm pretty desperate, but maybe this will help. I have the topic backed up, so perhaps it will be reinstalled at some future date. I am aware there are a few other topics with 500+ replies, but they are more subject-oriented, so we will retain them.

Jesper, send me an e-mail if you can, I have some ideas to bounce off you.

I am looking for volunteer server monitors, a few people who visit the forums regularly who can let me know if it goes down. If you would like to help, PM me. I will give you details how you can help. Gizzmoe and Dargo have been doing most of this for me, I need to get them some help.

thanks for your patience and support,
Neal

Drebbel · 05-08-06, 01:12 PM

Quote:

I am looking for volunteer server monitors

Ultimately The Onkel is looking for a server fixer. So are servers your business or do you know a whole lot about them then please PM Neal, the whole subsim comminity will be gratefull to you !

Oberon · 05-08-06, 03:00 PM

Hmmm....does this mean we have to start a new thread called 'I know curiosity killed the forum but..." ?

STEED · 05-08-06, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Hmmm....does this mean we have to start a new thread called 'I know curiosity killed the forum but..." ?

:hmm:

Skybird · 05-08-06, 04:43 PM

Do not excuse yourself for deleting that thread. Better demand us to say thanks!

Onkel Neal · 05-08-06, 06:12 PM

I'm thinking the problem was not the massive thread, will be restoring it (not right away, though).

Problem with tracking down problems is you have to try one thing at a time...and wait to see if that does the trick. Takes time.

Skybird · 05-08-06, 06:19 PM

I didn't meant it that way, but you are forgiven.

What i really meant was: that topic was a real nerve-killer.

Drebbel · 05-08-06, 07:35 PM

***BUMP***

05-08-06, 08:39 PM

Well, if it stays gone I'll miss it; if it comes back I'll post on it again, but the bottom line is you have to do whatever it takes to make it all work.

We're behind ya, Onkel, at least 25%.

kiwi_2005 · 05-08-06, 09:58 PM

Neal,
I was speaking to a Linux mate, about the problem and he ask this:
If restarting the server fixes the memory error Is that a soft restart or a hard shutdown (off) (dont ask me why

) . Sounds like a cache/memory lock type problem, as in, theres a file being acccessed that uses a large amount of memory & it's not releasing that memory back to the system. Could also be a perticuler ram chip being addressed in series, overheating.

Onkel Neal · 05-09-06, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Neal,
I was speaking to a Linux mate, about the problem and he ask this:
If restarting the server fixes the memory error Is that a soft restart or a hard shutdown (off) (dont ask me why

) . Sounds like a cache/memory lock type problem, as in, theres a file being acccessed that uses a large amount of memory & it's not releasing that memory back to the system. Could also be a perticuler ram chip being addressed in series, overheating.

PM in your box.

The Noob · 05-09-06, 05:33 AM

For such "Spam Topics", please use this Forum!

http://forums.filefront.com/forumdisplay.php?f=323

(I am NOT adversering other Forums, i just want to help to get all the spam from here, to there...

)

Bertgang · 05-09-06, 05:58 AM

So the smelling dead cat is out?

Excellent. REQUIESCAT IN PACEM

Now, having kiled a sort of walking cadaver, Neal is the only real zombie hunter I know; a myth becomes reality.

JJ · 05-09-06, 08:46 AM

C'mon.. I was just curious. ...should someone still remember how it actually begun

But then again.. the circle has closed.. curiosity killed it

Kapitan · 05-09-06, 09:21 AM

well i hope the new one will do it justice

05-08-06, 12:51 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Who killed the "cat bump" topic As you may have noticed, Subsim has been experiencing server issues. We've been unable to pinpoint the problem but occasionally, usually weekdays from 9am to 5pm CST, the forum server "runs out of memory". Cannot explain why, the memory on normal usage has been monitored and is fine, but then once or twice a day it maxes out and I have to perform a reboot to get the server to respond again. I've gone through a whole list of things, including paying a server management company to investigate. They have been pretty useless in this case, they were unable to do much more than guess. The datacenter is looking into it too; they tested the server RAM and it was good. I've asked them to change out the memory. One thing I have been told, when a forum topic is called that has a lot of replies, it has to load the whole query into memoryâ€¦ I don't know if that is the problem but as a test, I've removed the massive "Dead Cat/Bump" topic. I'm pretty desperate, but maybe this will help. I have the topic backed up, so perhaps it will be reinstalled at some future date. I am aware there are a few other topics with 500+ replies, but they are more subject-oriented, so we will retain them. Jesper, send me an e-mail if you can, I have some ideas to bounce off you. I am looking for volunteer server monitors, a few people who visit the forums regularly who can let me know if it goes down. If you would like to help, PM me. I will give you details how you can help. Gizzmoe and Dargo have been doing most of this for me, I need to get them some help. thanks for your patience and support, Neal

05-08-06, 04:43 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Do not excuse yourself for deleting that thread. Better demand us to say thanks! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-08-06, 06:19 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I didn't meant it that way, but you are forgiven. What i really meant was: that topic was a real nerve-killer. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-08-06, 09:58 PM	#10
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Neal, I was speaking to a Linux mate, about the problem and he ask this: If restarting the server fixes the memory error Is that a soft restart or a hard shutdown (off) (dont ask me why ) . Sounds like a cache/memory lock type problem, as in, theres a file being acccessed that uses a large amount of memory & it's not releasing that memory back to the system. Could also be a perticuler ram chip being addressed in series, overheating. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

05-09-06, 09:21 AM	#15
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	well i hope the new one will do it justice __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

05-08-06, 03:00 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Hmmm....does this mean we have to start a new thread called 'I know curiosity killed the forum but..." ?

05-08-06, 06:12 PM	#6
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I'm thinking the problem was not the massive thread, will be restoring it (not right away, though). Problem with tracking down problems is you have to try one thing at a time...and wait to see if that does the trick. Takes time.

05-08-06, 07:35 PM	#8
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	*BUMP*

05-08-06, 08:39 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well, if it stays gone I'll miss it; if it comes back I'll post on it again, but the bottom line is you have to do whatever it takes to make it all work. We're behind ya, Onkel, at least 25%.

05-09-06, 05:33 AM	#12
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For such "Spam Topics", please use this Forum! http://forums.filefront.com/forumdisplay.php?f=323 (I am NOT adversering other Forums, i just want to help to get all the spam from here, to there... )

05-09-06, 05:58 AM	#13
Bertgang Sparky Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 158 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So the smelling dead cat is out? Excellent. REQUIESCAT IN PACEM Now, having kiled a sort of walking cadaver, Neal is the only real zombie hunter I know; a myth becomes reality.

05-09-06, 08:46 AM	#14
JJ Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	C'mon.. I was just curious. ...should someone still remember how it actually begun But then again.. the circle has closed.. curiosity killed it