Kilo spotting kilo

drEaPer · 05-06-06, 02:43 PM

Heya

I was playing an MP session (No mods, Stock DW 1.03) where I had a Kilo and my enemy had an improved Kilo.
Ocean was apo. 600m deep, layer at 130m.
I was at 0 kts, temporally going at 2 kts to maneuver, and then reducing speed to 0 kts again.

Then I heard a TIW, and 5 seconds later it killed me.
When I saw the replay, it told me that the Kilo was 11nm away. He fired a subroc directly at my position, on top on my head. Until that point, about 12 gameminutes had past.

I always thought the kilo is extremely silent, running on batteries, unlike a nuke sub that always has a minimal noise generated.

What tactic did he use? How did he made such a precise TMA? Is the kilo rather noisy?

cheers!

blue3golf · 05-06-06, 02:56 PM

He may have figured your position out by you moving a couple knots then stopping, if there were AI contacts they pretty much move at one speed, i would've shot just because of the questionable piloting of the boat.

drEaPer · 05-06-06, 03:15 PM

He hears me driving at 2 kts about 11nm far away in a Kilo? Guess I ll stick to nuke subs...

Wildcat · 05-06-06, 03:21 PM

Sounds like you probably made some kind of noise by accident, maybe hull popping or raised radar, torpedo tube noise, something. There is no way in hell he detected you from 2 knot movement in a direct line, unless you were in a convergence zone.

At 2 knots even the seawolf would have a hard time hearing you at more than 2 or 3 miles away.

LuftWolf · 05-06-06, 03:22 PM

Check the mission file... make sure he wasn't using some kind of script or something...

Didn't you guys chat about the match after? :hmm:

blue3golf · 05-06-06, 06:31 PM

In reality should have never happened but remember iyt is a game so it could have been a glich.

Palindromeria · 05-06-06, 11:06 PM

this sounds familiar

TLAM Strike · 05-07-06, 09:09 AM

I bet its the NB click cheat.

goldorak · 05-07-06, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I bet its the NB click cheat.

Wasn't this bug fixed in 1.03 patch ?

TLAM Strike · 05-07-06, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I bet its the NB click cheat.

Wasn't this bug fixed in 1.03 patch ?

No it was introduced n 1.03

OKO · 05-07-06, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by drEaPer

Is the kilo rather noisy?

yes KILO is much noisier than the improved =>

at stop, the KILO makes the same noise than Improved at 9 knts
@4 knts KILO => 12 knts improved
@7 knts KILO => 15 knts improved

In fact you could quite easily detect a KILO at 7 knts when you couldn't see a close improved KILO at 12 knts.

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I bet its the NB click cheat

I made some tests about it and didn't had anymore the click cheat for some times now.

TLAM Strike · 05-07-06, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OKO

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I bet its the NB click cheat

I made some tests about it and didn't had anymore the click cheat for some times now.

Because it moved to the NB FRAZ screen. Harder to spot (no sound cue) but its there.

OKO · 05-07-06, 10:46 AM

I just tested again, and I confirm there is no more the click cheat with the KILO

a small scenario to check yourself :
an improved KILO is at your 000, at less than 9 miles
you won't be able to mark it =>

http://okof4.free.fr/fichiers/DW/kilo_detection.mu

OKO · 05-07-06, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

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Originally Posted by OKO

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I bet its the NB click cheat

I made some tests about it and didn't had anymore the click cheat for some times now.

Because it moved to the NB FRAZ screen. Harder to spot (no sound cue) but its there.

OMG ....

OKO · 05-07-06, 10:49 AM

In fact I think it didn't moved to the NB ... but already existed ...
As using it in BB was easier, nobody tried it at NB ......
d*mn

05-06-06, 02:43 PM	#1
drEaPer Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 176 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Kilo spotting kilo Heya I was playing an MP session (No mods, Stock DW 1.03) where I had a Kilo and my enemy had an improved Kilo. Ocean was apo. 600m deep, layer at 130m. I was at 0 kts, temporally going at 2 kts to maneuver, and then reducing speed to 0 kts again. Then I heard a TIW, and 5 seconds later it killed me. When I saw the replay, it told me that the Kilo was 11nm away. He fired a subroc directly at my position, on top on my head. Until that point, about 12 gameminutes had past. I always thought the kilo is extremely silent, running on batteries, unlike a nuke sub that always has a minimal noise generated. What tactic did he use? How did he made such a precise TMA? Is the kilo rather noisy? cheers!

05-06-06, 03:22 PM	#5
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Check the mission file... make sure he wasn't using some kind of script or something... Didn't you guys chat about the match after? :hmm: __________________ LW

05-07-06, 09:09 AM	#8
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	I bet its the NB click cheat. __________________

05-06-06, 02:56 PM	#2
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He may have figured your position out by you moving a couple knots then stopping, if there were AI contacts they pretty much move at one speed, i would've shot just because of the questionable piloting of the boat.

05-06-06, 03:15 PM	#3
drEaPer Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 176 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He hears me driving at 2 kts about 11nm far away in a Kilo? Guess I ll stick to nuke subs...

05-06-06, 03:21 PM	#4
Wildcat Engineer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 215 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Sounds like you probably made some kind of noise by accident, maybe hull popping or raised radar, torpedo tube noise, something. There is no way in hell he detected you from 2 knot movement in a direct line, unless you were in a convergence zone. At 2 knots even the seawolf would have a hard time hearing you at more than 2 or 3 miles away.

05-06-06, 06:31 PM	#6
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In reality should have never happened but remember iyt is a game so it could have been a glich.

05-06-06, 11:06 PM	#7
Palindromeria Planesman Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	this sounds familiar

05-07-06, 10:46 AM	#13
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I just tested again, and I confirm there is no more the click cheat with the KILO a small scenario to check yourself : an improved KILO is at your 000, at less than 9 miles you won't be able to mark it => http://okof4.free.fr/fichiers/DW/kilo_detection.mu

05-07-06, 10:49 AM	#15
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	In fact I think it didn't moved to the NB ... but already existed ... As using it in BB was easier, nobody tried it at NB ...... d*mn