Cindy Sheehan, get out of my country..

[Wildcat]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_4511261.htm

This lady's at it again. She's an insult to everything our soldiers are fighting for. Apparently she does not remember the mass murder of civilians including women and children, by the taliban, who would gladly step in and resume power the moment armed forces leave the area.

If it were up to me I would send Shihan out of this country immediately, never to return. I don't want her breathing the same air as me.

[DeepSix]

Whether one is a hawk or a dove, that woman has long since past the point of being a grieving mother - which at first I could understand - and is now just a publicity hound. IMO.

I wonder how Jessica Lynch is doing.

[Skybird]

The only insult to these soldiers in fight is their commander-in-chief who betrays them, leads them incompetently, risks their lifes for lies, and abuses their good will and their trust.

Some people see a value in saving lifes from dying uselessly for lies. Unfortunately, other people prefer to waste even more lifes for illusions instead of admitting that they were wrong from the beginning.

Concerning this second kind of people - I do not want them to breath the same air as me, no matter the nationality.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by DeepSix

Whether one is a hawk or a dove, that woman has long since past the point of being a grieving mother - which at first I could understand - and is now just a publicity hound. IMO.

I wonder how Jessica Lynch is doing.

Yeah, she needs to get a life. Maybe she should try her hand at being an activist in Baghdad or Grozny. I'll pitch in for her air fare.

[Ducimus]

Cindy Sheehan strikes me as some self absorbed, anal retentive yuppy, SUV driving, soccar mom who can't handle reality.

[kgsuarez]

Personally, I am against the war in Iraq. But... I would love to sign up and go fight. I think combat must be the coolest thing.

Whatever... without war, there would be no such thing as peace.

To each his own. As long as there are men and women willing to fight the dirty wars, we're all okay.

As for me, I am not fit for duty. But man.. I would give anything to see some combat.

As for Sheehan, I think she's annoying as hell. But kicking her out of the country is un-American. Come on you guys. You should all know, that it is the hard-core hawk types that fight for the rights of the peace loving doves. Not to say that it's the only thing they fight for, but I think you can see my point.

BTW: Have any of you seen the photos of Sheehan's book signing? Nobody showed up. lol.. I'll see if I can find those pics.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by kgsuarez

I think combat must be the coolest thing.

Your joking right? If not, you may rest assured, it is not the coolest thing.

When you realize someone wants to kill you because of the uniform your wearing, because of WHAT you are, when you get that recall at 0 'dark 30, and file into the belly of a cargo plane, and those doors slam shut, and taxi's down that runway.. when your gut wrenches into a knot, and when finally learn what "pucker factor" is all about, the world is a cold, hard, lonely place. You don't want that.

EDIT:
Heh wow, i should have read the rest more closely

But man.. I would give anything to see some combat.

So your not joking. You want to know what its like? Heres a little slice.
Imagine being in a country where everybody hates you. youve made some good friends, and your i dunno, "out on the job". You work together, you sleep in the same tents, like the movies, your like brothers. One guy is next to you. You look over at him and he's fine. You turn your head another way to look around, then you hear a loud noise and then turn your head back and he's on the ground holding his face.

Blood is coming out of his head, like someone took a drain plug out of a motor oil pan, and just as thick. You and a couple others try to help him, and come to find out, his face is smashed in. Its almost cartoony, because his eyes are acutaly closer to gether, like someone punched his face really good, like in a cartoon. But its not a cartoon, its real. you dare not say aloud what he looks like because he'll go into shock.

He gets medivaced out. You never see him again.
Next day that blood is there on the concrete. It one big cake, about 4 feet wide. 1/4 inch Thick, and its cracked, like dried paint. You can throw water on it, but the stain on the ground won't come out. The last thing that sticks in your mind is the mans face.

Its not cool. Don't be so nieve.

[August]

I don't believe Sheehan is doing this for an ideal. She's a professional protester. She makes money off her dead son who, from all accounts, believed in what he was doing. He reenlisted to go back to Iraq. Think about it.

[bradclark1]

Don't be mad at her. Feel sorry for her.

[August]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Don't be mad at her. Feel sorry for her.

I feel sorry for her family.

[kiwi_2005]

Anti war protesters just like our green peace here in NZ are a right pain in the butt. Wars not a good thing im against it but sometimes it has to happen. Didn't the Vietnam vets get the worse treatment when they came back, US citizens spitting on them, calling them murderers. what these guys would of went through only to come back and get crap from there own ppl would of been a depression of its own.
A good veitnam book ive read called 'NAM' by Mark baker will really open your eyes, told by real vets (pilots and grunts.) Better than Chickenhawk.

[TteFAboB]

A true caring mother would never, ever consider crippling her son.

If she really didn't want him to go, and he didn't want to go, she should help him, give him strength, to face a Mohammed Ali, and I'm talking about the Boxer, the holy war one is on the other side.

So, mommy, stand up with your son and face a desertion trial. Running off to Canada? Running to the hills?! What happened to honor?! What happened to Mohammed Ali?

You sign up for the army, even if you don't want to ever go to any war, there's a chance you'll get called, and if you truly don't want to go, you face the desertion trial! If you are such a victim, chances are they'll find you not-guilty.Now, if that risk is too much to bear, how about building the country as a civilian?

Good thing war journalists don't have mothers, if their's stopped them from going to war zones, other moms would never be able to tell how insane a war can be.

[August]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

A true caring mother would never, ever consider crippling her son.

If she really didn't want him to go, and he didn't want to go, she should help him, give him strength, to face a Mohammed Ali, and I'm talking about the Boxer, the holy war one is on the other side.

So, mommy, stand up with your son and face a desertion trial. Running off to Canada? Running to the hills?! What happened to honor?! What happened to Mohammed Ali?

You sign up for the army, even if you don't want to ever go to any war, there's a chance you'll get called, and if you truly don't want to go, you face the desertion trial! If you are such a victim, chances are they'll find you not-guilty.Now, if that risk is too much to bear, how about building the country as a civilian?

Good thing war journalists don't have mothers, if their's stopped them from going to war zones, other moms would never be able to tell how insane a war can be.

Uhh you do realize that he was a professional soldier on his second enlistment who was killed on a rescue mission in Iraq for which he had also volunteered to take part in right? This guy wouldn't have run to Canada nor would he have deserted. He believed in what he was doing.

His mother ought to respect her dead sons wishes and not dishonor his memory in her eagerness for speaking tour cash.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Didn't the Vietnam vets get the worse treatment when they came back, US citizens spitting on them, calling them murderers. what these guys would of went through only to come back and get crap from there own ppl would of been a depression of its own.

Some did treat them well. My dad served stateside in the Navy during the end of the war and remembers the ticket counter clerks at airports bumping men in uniform up to 1st class for their flight when there were seats available. I think everyone should remember and follow these people’s example.

[DeepSix]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

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Some did treat them well. My dad served stateside in the Navy during the end of the war and remembers the ticket counter clerks at airports bumping men in uniform up to 1st class for their flight when there were seats available. I think everyone should remember and follow these people’s example.

Interesting... one of my friends is in the 82nd; on one of his trips back from either Afghanistan or Iraq, he and three other men were put on a commercial flight from Germany to the U.S. When they boarded, several first class passengers voluntarily swapped seats with them.

Back to Sheehan - In a way I *do* feel sorry for her, because this cause of hers won't always make a satisfactory raison d'etre. It gives her life some meaning for the time being, but once it's gone....