Who else has stealth bombers?

Deathblow · 04-29-06, 12:47 PM

*[FOX]* Bort's post got me thinking... Do you think that other countries have developed their own version of the stealth fighter (F117 counterpart) or B2 bomber by now?

The basics of the technology have been known to the public for about 15 years now (since the first Gulf War unveiling of the F117 and even longer when you think of the B2) )than that by radar manufacturers. Flat sides to deflect radar waves and radar-absorbant material to absorb the rest. Doesn't seem like the theory behind it is too much of a mystery and other should be able to design a steath plane on paper at least. We're certainly seening the basic principles of stealth being implemented across many platforms, but how what about the design of a soley steath platform designed to for undetectability as its primary design constraint like the F117?

If so who?...If not, why not...

...Is it only a matter of affordability, with the $120 million apiece price tag as well as the research and development cost still not worth it to most other militaries? Maybe compounded by lack of a industry base that could construct such a craft in reasonable numbers with all its material requirements and necessary construction techniques? and design consproduce the needed materials in enough quantities, and infrastructure needed to develope and construct need be in place, but surely someone else has duplicated the systems.

Personally.... I haven't decided yet. I'm certain that all militaries have a stealth bomber finished on paper... but to whether its been built... :hmm:

Kapitan · 04-29-06, 12:50 PM

Well russia has tried and has a few designs but not much also Britian has a few plans but other than that i dont know.

04-29-06, 12:56 PM

If they're truly stealthy, how would we know?

mapuc · 04-29-06, 01:18 PM

Sweden haven't got any stealth bombers like the B2-Spirit. We have got some stealth vessel like the HMS Visby

Markus

Deathblow · 04-29-06, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Sweden haven't got any stealth bombers like the B2-Spirit. We have got some stealth vessel like the HMS Visby

Markus

Oooooooo Cool :|\ Thats a spiffy looking ship. No AAW capability? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visby_class_corvette

Deathblow · 04-29-06, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If they're truly stealthy, how would we know?

We don't.

That's the point of the poll, to see what people think.

NeonSamurai · 04-29-06, 01:30 PM

I like pretty colors!

Well the main reason is the price tag, the b2's go for at least a couple billion each. RnD costs run in the multi billions. Stealth aircraft are super expensive to develope and make and most countries dont wana put that kind of money into such a specialized vehicle.

Also the Fighter designation for the F-117 is totaly wrong, its not a fighter, never was designed as a fighter, cant act like a fighter, and heck cant even engage other aircraft with anything other then mean thoughts. it should have been A-117 or B-117. Though they didnt want to call it B because most other aircraft with the B designation are all big :P, and A doesnt quite work as the 117 doesnt generaly attack tanks and similar military ground targets, usualy just buildings. So instead they went with F which is something it doesnt do at all :P Maybe they should have called it SSB-117 or small stealth bomber

but then they might get mixed up with the navy sub designations.

Deathblow · 04-29-06, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I like pretty colors!

Sweet! Me too!

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Well the main reason is the price tag, the b2's go for at least a couple billion each.

... wow... you know, I didn't realize that those B2s were running in the billion dollar range, I always assumed they were about around hundreads of million range. Learn something new everyday. http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-2-specs.htm

CCIP · 04-29-06, 01:55 PM

I think that depends on the definition of "stealth". :hmm:

Frankly, it's possible that there will be other types of "stealth" than funny shapes and bucketloads of RAM on the wings.

TLAM Strike · 04-29-06, 01:59 PM

You pathetic humans have much to learn about stealth...

Godalmighty83 · 04-29-06, 02:23 PM

perhaps the reason for the lack of stealth craft is how unsuccesful its often percieved.

theres no such thing as true stealth, only 'harder to see'.

Kapitan · 04-29-06, 03:08 PM

There is no such thing as a true stealth jet, all them funny sides do not eliminate its radar picture it just makes it smaller and harder to see.

STEED · 04-29-06, 03:24 PM

Show me a 100% stealth plane and I will buy you a drink.

Torplexed · 04-29-06, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Show me a 100% stealth plane and I will buy you a drink.

How about Wonder Women's Invisible Jet? I saw it on teevee so it must be real. Where's my drink? A Mountain Dew will do.

STEED · 04-29-06, 03:44 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Best laugh I had all day

the drinks in the post.

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04-29-06, 12:47 PM	#1
Deathblow Captain Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Who else has stealth bombers? [FOX] Bort's post got me thinking... Do you think that other countries have developed their own version of the stealth fighter (F117 counterpart) or B2 bomber by now? The basics of the technology have been known to the public for about 15 years now (since the first Gulf War unveiling of the F117 and even longer when you think of the B2) )than that by radar manufacturers. Flat sides to deflect radar waves and radar-absorbant material to absorb the rest. Doesn't seem like the theory behind it is too much of a mystery and other should be able to design a steath plane on paper at least. We're certainly seening the basic principles of stealth being implemented across many platforms, but how what about the design of a soley steath platform designed to for undetectability as its primary design constraint like the F117? If so who?...If not, why not... ...Is it only a matter of affordability, with the $120 million apiece price tag as well as the research and development cost still not worth it to most other militaries? Maybe compounded by lack of a industry base that could construct such a craft in reasonable numbers with all its material requirements and necessary construction techniques? and design consproduce the needed materials in enough quantities, and infrastructure needed to develope and construct need be in place, but surely someone else has duplicated the systems. Personally.... I haven't decided yet. I'm certain that all militaries have a stealth bomber finished on paper... but to whether its been built... :hmm:

04-29-06, 12:50 PM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Well russia has tried and has a few designs but not much also Britian has a few plans but other than that i dont know. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

04-29-06, 01:30 PM	#7
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I like pretty colors! Well the main reason is the price tag, the b2's go for at least a couple billion each. RnD costs run in the multi billions. Stealth aircraft are super expensive to develope and make and most countries dont wana put that kind of money into such a specialized vehicle. Also the Fighter designation for the F-117 is totaly wrong, its not a fighter, never was designed as a fighter, cant act like a fighter, and heck cant even engage other aircraft with anything other then mean thoughts. it should have been A-117 or B-117. Though they didnt want to call it B because most other aircraft with the B designation are all big :P, and A doesnt quite work as the 117 doesnt generaly attack tanks and similar military ground targets, usualy just buildings. So instead they went with F which is something it doesnt do at all :P Maybe they should have called it SSB-117 or small stealth bomber but then they might get mixed up with the navy sub designations. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

04-29-06, 01:55 PM	#9
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think that depends on the definition of "stealth". :hmm: Frankly, it's possible that there will be other types of "stealth" than funny shapes and bucketloads of RAM on the wings. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-29-06, 12:56 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If they're truly stealthy, how would we know?

04-29-06, 01:18 PM	#4
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Sweden haven't got any stealth bombers like the B2-Spirit. We have got some stealth vessel like the HMS Visby Markus

04-29-06, 01:59 PM	#10
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Glory to the Empire! You pathetic humans have much to learn about stealth... __________________

04-29-06, 02:23 PM	#11
Godalmighty83 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	perhaps the reason for the lack of stealth craft is how unsuccesful its often percieved. theres no such thing as true stealth, only 'harder to see'. __________________ Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

04-29-06, 03:08 PM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	There is no such thing as a true stealth jet, all them funny sides do not eliminate its radar picture it just makes it smaller and harder to see. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

04-29-06, 03:24 PM	#13
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Show me a 100% stealth plane and I will buy you a drink. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-29-06, 03:44 PM	#15
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Best laugh I had all day the drinks in the post. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!