Battleships

[79TransAm]

This is a two part question which the two parts are not really related.

First can you encounter allied battleships in the campaign mode. And can you encounter the bismark?

Second are there currently any nations that activly use battleships in their navy. I know some IOWA class battleships are in the reserve such as the Wisconsin.

Thanks

[DeepSix]

1. Yes. It's rare but it's possible. They're usually in task forces early in the war. Carriers, too.

2. Don't think there are any active. I think the U.S. is the only nation with BBs on reserve (but I might well be wrong about that).

[bookworm_020]

Yes you can encounter battleships in a campaign, mostly in taskforces but sometimes in convoys and at anchor. I don't think the bismark is shown in the stock standard game (by this I mean the sinking of)

No navy has battleships on active duty (discounting museum ships and one's kept on the active list for other reasons, eg. Arizona is still on the list despite been sunk)

[79TransAm]

Allright thanks guys

[Cerberus]

Slightly off the topic I suppose, but has anyone else noticed that some reports - even in 'intelligent' newspapers etc. will sometimes refer to any warship as a 'Battleship'?

Really bugs me when they do that.

[Wulfmann]

While the Whiskey and Might Mo are considered in reserve they are doubtful to say the least. The only battleships in existence are the US ones and the only old dreadnaught is the USS Texas.
There are ones like the Bismarck preserved in the Davy Jones locker museum.
There is also the British built Japanese flagship at Tsushima the Mikasa a pre dreadnaught and the second class battleship ergo armored cruiser Georgos Averroff of the Greek Navy, both as museum ships.

I was invited to join all the crews of the USS Wisconsin for her last ride from the Norfolk Navy yard to the Nautica museum and it was very cool. One of the Stories I wrote a female editor added a cut in the title calling it one of the navy’s most powerful “destroyers�. Needless to say she could not see what the problem was as if it was no big deal like wearing the wrong colored shows with an outfit or other “really relevant things!� When I explained it was like wearing white after Labor Day she apologized.

Wulfmann

[SkvyWvr]

Haven't you noticed that the media are a bunch idiots? A few years ago, when the movie Pearl Harbor was released, a radio reporter for ABC news reported that "Today" (it was June I think) was the 60th anniversey of the Japanese "Invasion" of Pearl Harbor. Proving that she was a moron and the entire editorial staff that allowed her to broadcast that garbage were idiots.

[Type XXIII]

On a side note, it might be added that some consider the Russian Kirov class as battlecruisers. At 28,000 tons, these ships dwarves most WWI battleships. However, their main armament is rockets, not big guns as was the case with battleships/battlecruisers.

[Wulfmann]

Kirov's are good lookers and because they are big and near Scharnhorst sized westerners have so classed them but that is more nostalgic than reality.
They are classed as "Nuclear powered missile cruisers" in the Russian fleet and are compared more to US strike cruisers in concept.
They also carry VTOL aircraft
Making them nuclear added considerably to their size and they are intended both as escort to a big nuke carrier or able to operate independently.
They were instrumental in the thinking to rebuild and deploy the Iowa class but without ant armor they technically cannot be considered battle anything.

Wulfmann

[Keelbuster]

Just spotted Revenge moving at 6kts in the center of a convoy, BF25, heading SW out of the channel, Jan 20 1940. On my way back, and totally out of torpedoes. I considered trying to keel him with my conning tower and then deck gun him from the darkness (perfectly still night), but thought better of it and let them drift past.

Kb

[Khayman]

10th November 1940, grid BE35. Multiple fast contacts, heading straight for me. I took a look and what a beautiful sight.



Turns out to be 5 destroyers and 2 Revenge Battleships. They crossed right in front of me and I let loose. They spotted the wakes and tried to dodge.



I hit them both though.



Shame only one of them went down. This one stayed afloat.



You can see the destroyers zooming about trying to find me, but in all honestly they were pretty useless. They even sped off and left the Battleship on fire and listing. If only I'd had more torps. I certainly wasn't going to surface and use the deck gun!

First time I've ever seen a Task Force, but they certainly exist

[Rosencrantz]

Hello K! Nice pics. Just curious, did you aimed manually or are you using AI help? Because, if you were doing this by manually (two fast targets) have to say: A pretty good shot!



-RC-

[Der Eisen-Wal]

i'd concur.. salvos or singles? what was the range?

[DeepSix]

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

...
One of the Stories I wrote a female editor added a cut in the title calling it one of the navy’s most powerful “destroyers�. Needless to say she could not see what the problem was as if it was no big deal like wearing the wrong colored shows with an outfit or other “really relevant things!� When I explained it was like wearing white after Labor Day she apologized.

Wulfmann

ROFL :rotfl: Good one!

[Khayman]

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz

Hello K! Nice pics. Just curious, did you aimed manually or are you using AI help? Because, if you were doing this by manually (two fast targets) have to say: A pretty good shot!



-RC-

It wasn't manual . Much as I'd like to boast it was

The range was about 900m, and I had no time to do anything other than lock and shoot singles. Three torps at the first Battleship, one of which missed due to it trying to evade. The last torp I fired at the 2nd Battleship which was sailing directly behind it.

It all happened very fast, and I wouldn't have stood a chance of getting them with manual tagerting. I might have got a destroyer but the Battleships would have escaped. I was lucky I even got the first one, as you can see from the pics that the torps had to almost side-swipe it.

I was exteremely fortunate that they were heading straight for me, and that I barely had to maneuver. I just wish I could have got the other one!