dynamic weather in SH4

THE_MASK · 04-16-06, 10:43 PM

Would it be possible to have dynamic hurricanes in SH4 . Wind above a certain speed created by hurricanes would blow ships out of the hurricanes path . You know how at the moment in SH3 if you come close to another ship it reverses to get out of your way then proceeds as normal when you pass . Very simmilar to this but except its a hurricane that pushes the ships out of the way .

Egan · 04-17-06, 11:06 AM

And really make it dynamic instead of Totally random this time. Tie it into location and season, please. Fog banks, sqauls and truly monstrous seas -all the rest of it.

Ta.

DeepSix · 04-17-06, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Egan

And really make it dynamic instead of Totally random this time. Tie it into location and season, please. Fog banks, sqauls and truly monstrous seas -all the rest of it.

Ta.

Second that.

Rosencrantz · 04-17-06, 11:38 AM

But how about weather reports given to boats? It would be great if you could get a weather report per day so you would know what's coming in few next days. the weather coming is rather essential part when you are planning your coming operations. What do you think?

DeepSix · 04-17-06, 11:46 AM

I'd like to have a forecast, just as I'd like to have it in SH3. But from reading Blair it looks like a lot of boats found themselves in foul weather without knowing about it in advance. I don't know if they just weren't given forecasts, or if the forecasts were inacccurate, or what. You would think that the boats going to sea would be given some idea of what conditions to expect, but maybe they weren't. Maybe because they would be gone for many more days than the forecasters could predict. Maybe because conditions change rapidly.

OT - Be interesting to hear an explanation.

CCIP · 04-17-06, 11:49 AM

I can live with "global" weather in SHIV, BUT - if nothing else, it absolutely must include volumetric fogging - fog banks and rain squalls are just such a key feature to have!

Sixpack · 04-18-06, 12:42 PM

I want really realistic weather bad. Guys, just by keeping a close eye on the sky and the barometer, hydrometer and temperature a skipper can make his own pretty accurate weather forecasts.

Imagine this stuff actually realisticly happening in the sim. Air pressure changes and the approaching and passing of low and high pressure fronts corresponding with changes in clouds, seastate, winds aso. Freakin' awesome

I'd pay top euro for that fine ****e !

Trout · 04-25-06, 10:53 AM

All sub sims traditionally focus gameplay on hunting, attacking and evasion (including damage control), (which is how it should be)

However, the more you can make non-fighting aspects of gameplay more interesting, the better. It takes a LONG time to get to a patrol area and one way to make that more fun and challenging is to add dynamic weather, options for realistic navigation, shoals, currents, hazards minefields ect.

Basically, navigating & sailing a submarine should be a challenge regardless of combat, much the same way MSFS makes flying civilian aircraft fun.

Trout

-Pv- · 04-25-06, 07:33 PM

I would like to see dynamic weather better handled in SHIV. The random weather in SHIII that rarely (if ever) changes once well away from port is not very satisfyling in SHIII. I'm not too concerned with forcasts since weather prediction 60 years ago was nothing like it is now. They didn't look at satellite pics but relied on radio reports from ships at sea. If pressure humidity and temperature gauges DID exist, AND they reflected dynamic changes, I would welcome that. Realistic weather modeling is very difficult almost requiring an entire program all by itself. Look at Flight Simulater which has been increasingly modeling weather for 20 years and they still don't have 100% realism.

If nothing else, gradually changing conditions toward psudo-random storm-calm states would be a big improvment.
-Pv-

04-16-06, 10:43 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	dynamic weather in SH4 Would it be possible to have dynamic hurricanes in SH4 . Wind above a certain speed created by hurricanes would blow ships out of the hurricanes path . You know how at the moment in SH3 if you come close to another ship it reverses to get out of your way then proceeds as normal when you pass . Very simmilar to this but except its a hurricane that pushes the ships out of the way .

04-17-06, 11:46 AM	#5
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'd like to have a forecast, just as I'd like to have it in SH3. But from reading Blair it looks like a lot of boats found themselves in foul weather without knowing about it in advance. I don't know if they just weren't given forecasts, or if the forecasts were inacccurate, or what. You would think that the boats going to sea would be given some idea of what conditions to expect, but maybe they weren't. Maybe because they would be gone for many more days than the forecasters could predict. Maybe because conditions change rapidly. OT - Be interesting to hear an explanation. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

04-17-06, 11:49 AM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I can live with "global" weather in SHIV, BUT - if nothing else, it absolutely must include volumetric fogging - fog banks and rain squalls are just such a key feature to have! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-18-06, 12:42 PM	#7
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I want really realistic weather bad. Guys, just by keeping a close eye on the sky and the barometer, hydrometer and temperature a skipper can make his own pretty accurate weather forecasts. Imagine this stuff actually realisticly happening in the sim. Air pressure changes and the approaching and passing of low and high pressure fronts corresponding with changes in clouds, seastate, winds aso. Freakin' awesome I'd pay top euro for that fine e ! __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

04-17-06, 11:06 AM	#2
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	And really make it dynamic instead of Totally random this time. Tie it into location and season, please. Fog banks, sqauls and truly monstrous seas -all the rest of it. Ta.

04-17-06, 11:38 AM	#4
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	But how about weather reports given to boats? It would be great if you could get a weather report per day so you would know what's coming in few next days. the weather coming is rather essential part when you are planning your coming operations. What do you think?

04-25-06, 10:53 AM	#8
Trout A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All sub sims traditionally focus gameplay on hunting, attacking and evasion (including damage control), (which is how it should be) However, the more you can make non-fighting aspects of gameplay more interesting, the better. It takes a LONG time to get to a patrol area and one way to make that more fun and challenging is to add dynamic weather, options for realistic navigation, shoals, currents, hazards minefields ect. Basically, navigating & sailing a submarine should be a challenge regardless of combat, much the same way MSFS makes flying civilian aircraft fun. Trout

04-25-06, 07:33 PM	#9
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I would like to see dynamic weather better handled in SHIV. The random weather in SHIII that rarely (if ever) changes once well away from port is not very satisfyling in SHIII. I'm not too concerned with forcasts since weather prediction 60 years ago was nothing like it is now. They didn't look at satellite pics but relied on radio reports from ships at sea. If pressure humidity and temperature gauges DID exist, AND they reflected dynamic changes, I would welcome that. Realistic weather modeling is very difficult almost requiring an entire program all by itself. Look at Flight Simulater which has been increasingly modeling weather for 20 years and they still don't have 100% realism. If nothing else, gradually changing conditions toward psudo-random storm-calm states would be a big improvment. -Pv-