When the going gets tough call the Irish!

kiwi_2005 · 04-05-06, 03:36 PM

STEED · 04-05-06, 03:38 PM

Good Grief

kiwi_2005 · 04-05-06, 03:51 PM

tycho102 · 04-05-06, 04:15 PM

Oh God, yes. I was absolutely waiting for that fourth panel to come up. I noticed the lift-truck wasn't chained down, nor was it braced properly. Basic engineering 101, statics and dynamics.

:rotfl:

However, that very last photo looks shopped. If it's not, then the lateral brace failed; which is why you chain the bloody thing to a pylon driven into the earth. Any stone quarry crane operator would've known better than that. Also, those people standing on the load side of the second truck are idiots. I would normally hope they went in, but seeing how they would likely be immediately crushed, I won't wish that one upon them. At the very least, I hope they got wet.

I know there are European engineers out there. Even Irish ones. Where the heck they were on this one, I know not, but I do appreciate their levity. :rotfl:

lesrae · 04-05-06, 04:22 PM

A good one, but I've seen it discredited before - one of the main points is the bystanders in the photos, look at them in the first one and then the last photo of the set of 3, you'd think they'd have moved wouldn't you?

Saying that, even if it was done once it's a cock-up

Skybird · 04-05-06, 05:04 PM

:rotfl: No screenplay writer could to it any better.

Kapitan · 04-05-06, 05:13 PM

LMAO that was funny

bradclark1 · 04-05-06, 06:20 PM

The last truck has its struts out. I'd say it's a photoshop job.

RickC Sniper · 04-05-06, 06:27 PM

That first boomtruck did not even seem to have it's small outriggers down. (right behind the cab)

It should never lean like that with the outriggers down, it should just tip over with little warning.

The truck crane should have had little trouble with that load.

Tycho:
Do you really chain them down? I've seen a crane torn apart from abuse.
They cabled structural iron to the front so they could lift heavier loads off the rear and the steel tore like a piece of paper where crane rotates on it's base. This was a 75 ton truck-crane.
They aren't supposed to lift a load heavy enough to tip them over.

Kapitan · 04-06-06, 01:34 AM

Well that crane in the small lorry would easily lifet that car it could lift maybe 4 to 7 tonne, thats a french car pergeuot, so it only would way 2 tonne max filled with all that water. (my rover comes in at tonne and half sitting on the driveway).

The big volvo there with its legs out could also lift that lorry 20 24 tonnes max that crane could handle 30 tonnes maybe.

So yeah its photo shopped.

The Avon Lady · 04-06-06, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

The last truck has its struts out. I'd say it's a photoshop job.

Again, folks, look at the person in the white jacket and the blue jacket in the 1st and last photos.

Poor Irish photoshop job.

Oberon · 04-06-06, 08:52 AM

On 10th September 1981 a ZTO brakevan DB 950919 ran away down the gradient onto the staithes at Driffield and over the end of the rail stops. The mobile breakdown gang sent from Hull to attend had the bright idea of sending a locomotive down the staithes to drag the van back. Unfortunately, neither the gang or the locomotive crew took any notice of the prohibition order on locomotives on the staithes. Locomotives were prohibited because the structure, dating from the 1840s, had cast iron rails which would not take the 20 ton axle weight of a locomotive. As can be seen, the rails collapsed under the third axle leaving the locomotive balanced on the dividing wall by its second axle.
What appeared to be a straightforward recovery turned out to far from simple.

The recovery was set for the night of 18th September. Two 75 tons rail mounted cranes were booked one from Doncaster and one from Healey Mills. Unfortunately, on the morning of 18th September a train derailed at Blyton near Gainsborough and the Doncaster crane had to be diverted to that incident.

Having recovered the Blyton wagons, attention could again be switched to the locomotive at Driffield. The recovery was now scheduled for the 25th September. However, on the night, the Healey Mills crane broke down on site and again the recovery had to be aborted.

The next slot was the 3rd October. By now the wall alongside the locomotive had been demolished but the civil engineer considered that the 1840â€™s brick wall supporting the adjacent track would not take the weight of the cranes and the 110 ton locomotive so that lifting would be done from one track further away. This time the cranes used were the Doncaster and March, Cambridgeshire cranes both 75 ton rail cranes.

On the night the cranes were rigged but the ground was found to be so soft that the outriggers supporting the cranes disappeared into the ground as soon as weight was taken. Eventually, after several hours of packing sufficient stability was achieved to try a "snatch" i.e. a quick lift and swing in. The weight was taken and with the cranes teetering on the point of overturning the locomotive was swung inward towards the cranes and lowered onto the running track.

It had taken nearly a month to recover a locomotive from what should have been a simple incident.

A close-up of the broken rail. By sheer chance the middle wheel of the bogie was astride the brick dividing wall of the staithes.

ZTO brakevan DB 950919 hangs over the end of Driffield Staithes after running away from the sidings to the north of Driffield on the 10th September 1981. Driffield station buildings are in the background.

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tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Re: When the going gets tough call the Irish! Oh God, yes. I was absolutely waiting for that fourth panel to come up. I noticed the lift-truck wasn't chained down, nor was it braced properly. Basic engineering 101, statics and dynamics. :rotfl: However, that very last photo looks shopped. If it's not, then the lateral brace failed; which is *why you chain the bloody thing to a pylon driven into the earth*. Any stone quarry crane operator would've known better than that. Also, those people standing on the load side of the second truck are idiots. I would normally hope they went in, but seeing how they would likely be immediately crushed, I won't wish that one upon them. At the very least, I hope they got wet. I know there are European engineers out there. Even Irish ones. Where the heck they were on this one, I know not, but I do appreciate their levity. :rotfl: __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

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lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	A good one, but I've seen it discredited before - one of the main points is the bystanders in the photos, look at them in the first one and then the last photo of the set of 3, you'd think they'd have moved wouldn't you? Saying that, even if it was done once it's a cock-up __________________ DOLPHIN 38

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Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	LMAO that was funny __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	The last truck has its struts out. I'd say it's a photoshop job.

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RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	That first boomtruck did not even seem to have it's small outriggers down. (right behind the cab) It should never lean like that with the outriggers down, it should just tip over with little warning. The truck crane should have had little trouble with that load. Tycho: Do you really chain them down? I've seen a crane torn apart from abuse. They cabled structural iron to the front so they could lift heavier loads off the rear and the steel tore like a piece of paper where crane rotates on it's base. This was a 75 ton truck-crane. They aren't supposed to lift a load heavy enough to tip them over.

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Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Well that crane in the small lorry would easily lifet that car it could lift maybe 4 to 7 tonne, thats a french car pergeuot, so it only would way 2 tonne max filled with all that water. (my rover comes in at tonne and half sitting on the driveway). The big volvo there with its legs out could also lift that lorry 20 24 tonnes max that crane could handle 30 tonnes maybe. So yeah its photo shopped. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	On 10th September 1981 a ZTO brakevan DB 950919 ran away down the gradient onto the staithes at Driffield and over the end of the rail stops. The mobile breakdown gang sent from Hull to attend had the bright idea of sending a locomotive down the staithes to drag the van back. Unfortunately, neither the gang or the locomotive crew took any notice of the prohibition order on locomotives on the staithes. Locomotives were prohibited because the structure, dating from the 1840s, had cast iron rails which would not take the 20 ton axle weight of a locomotive. As can be seen, the rails collapsed under the third axle leaving the locomotive balanced on the dividing wall by its second axle. What appeared to be a straightforward recovery turned out to far from simple. The recovery was set for the night of 18th September. Two 75 tons rail mounted cranes were booked one from Doncaster and one from Healey Mills. Unfortunately, on the morning of 18th September a train derailed at Blyton near Gainsborough and the Doncaster crane had to be diverted to that incident. Having recovered the Blyton wagons, attention could again be switched to the locomotive at Driffield. The recovery was now scheduled for the 25th September. However, on the night, the Healey Mills crane broke down on site and again the recovery had to be aborted. The next slot was the 3rd October. By now the wall alongside the locomotive had been demolished but the civil engineer considered that the 1840â€™s brick wall supporting the adjacent track would not take the weight of the cranes and the 110 ton locomotive so that lifting would be done from one track further away. This time the cranes used were the Doncaster and March, Cambridgeshire cranes both 75 ton rail cranes. On the night the cranes were rigged but the ground was found to be so soft that the outriggers supporting the cranes disappeared into the ground as soon as weight was taken. Eventually, after several hours of packing sufficient stability was achieved to try a "snatch" i.e. a quick lift and swing in. The weight was taken and with the cranes teetering on the point of overturning the locomotive was swung inward towards the cranes and lowered onto the running track. It had taken nearly a month to recover a locomotive from what should have been a simple incident. A close-up of the broken rail. By sheer chance the middle wheel of the bogie was astride the brick dividing wall of the staithes. ZTO brakevan DB 950919 hangs over the end of Driffield Staithes after running away from the sidings to the north of Driffield on the 10th September 1981. Driffield station buildings are in the background.