Blue Trafalgars

Linton · 03-20-06, 02:33 PM

I just saw an article about the RN ssn force are going to be painted blue and wondered if anybody has any pictures?

Ramius · 03-20-06, 02:35 PM

JSLTIGER · 03-20-06, 05:15 PM

Why are they painting them blue? Air detection avoidance?

lesrae · 03-20-06, 05:15 PM

It's supposed to be better than black in clear, shallow waters. Can't think where that could be....

Ramius · 03-20-06, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

Why are they painting them blue? Air detection avoidance?

Supposed to stop this happening...

And yes that is a Black submarine in the pic.

Linton · 03-20-06, 05:35 PM

Ramius,you posted the picture I saw in the article that I originally saw.Have you found any of the whole boat?

STEED · 03-20-06, 05:37 PM

Your still see it, strange decision.

TLAM Strike · 03-20-06, 05:46 PM

It would be interesting to see images of the HMS Trenchant, this blue T boat, and a Black one all next to each other at PD.

Personally I think the Trenchantâ€™s type of paint job is a better idea since the different colors make it harder to recognize the object. :hmm:

Ramius · 03-20-06, 05:46 PM

Only this one ....

Quote:

By TOM NEWTON DUNN - The Sun Newspaper

ROYAL Navy chiefs are painting their entire fleet of submarines BLUE to camouflage them better.

They are ditching black, which has been the colour of choice in the 105 years of the â€œSilent Serviceâ€.

Nuclear sub HMS Torbay has become the first to get the new paint job. The rest of the fleet is expected to be changed by the end of the year.

Navy boffins picked the colour after exhaustive trials and lab tests. They also discovered black was the WORST low-key colour to deceive an enemy.

The new shade â€” called Steely Blue â€” was the hardest to spot against different shades of light and through water.

A change was prompted by a move in ops away from the North Atlantic, where subs spent most of the Cold War.

Now most are fighting the War on Terror in the Middle East and Indian Ocean, where seas are brighter.

Lieutenant Commander Steve White, in charge of the change, said: â€œThis should make subs twice as hard to spot.

â€œIt may not look as macho as dark black, but when sailors realise what it does theyâ€™ll love it.â€

HMS Torbay has left Devonport, Plymouth, on a secret six-month mission during which her new colour will undergo visual tests from the air, land and sea.

And Admirals have challenged holidaying Sun readers to spot the hunter-killer sub anywhere in the world â€” and then tell them if they think the colour works.

# EMAIL internet@dccn.mod.uk if you spot new-look Torbay.

Linton · 03-20-06, 06:07 PM

Did you notice the bulge?This is same as the one on Trafalgar that was covered by a large binliner at the fleet review last summer.

lesrae · 03-21-06, 01:17 AM

I was on Torbay a couple of days before she sailed and the paint job's a bit weird, it's slightly glossy (as you can see in the photos) and a bit of a culture shock after 15 years orking on matt black boats

Trenchant's colour scheme was very different when they tried it - it was a much lighter blue and was painted on in patches. I'm not sure if the patches were intended as disruptive camouflage or if it was just test patches.

Kapitan · 03-21-06, 02:15 AM

Now it just looks but ugly.

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 03-21-06, 11:38 AM

well... it's gonna stick out like a sore thumb in the dark north atlantic... what's the plan with that, to repaint it every time it's deployed to a different part of the world... sandy tan in the carribean, maybe

and what are they gonna do when the barnacles and other stuff starts attaching themselves to the hull... and the wethering effects start to wear away the new paint job...

if they really wanted to do something crazy and far fetched, they should've design a skin that could change color with the differening environments... like a chameleon does...

why didn't they ask me... i would've told em

hey, my idea aint no worse than painting em all dayglow blue

--Mike

XabbaRus · 03-21-06, 11:54 AM

I guess it must work if they are applying it to the fleet.

N Atlantic they would be deep anyway most of the time.

I am more interested in that new bit of kit on each side of the sail.

Bill Nichols · 03-21-06, 12:06 PM

Here are links to hi-res (wallpaper-size) photos of the RN's new Blue subs:

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.5109

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18905

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18906

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18907

03-20-06, 02:33 PM	#1
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03-20-06, 05:15 PM	#4
lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	It's supposed to be better than black in clear, shallow waters. Can't think where that could be.... __________________ DOLPHIN 38

03-20-06, 05:35 PM	#6
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ramius,you posted the picture I saw in the article that I originally saw.Have you found any of the whole boat? __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Your still see it, strange decision. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-20-06, 05:46 PM	#8
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	It would be interesting to see images of the HMS Trenchant, this blue T boat, and a Black one all next to each other at PD. Personally I think the Trenchantâ€™s type of paint job is a better idea since the different colors make it harder to recognize the object. :hmm: __________________

03-20-06, 06:07 PM	#10
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did you notice the bulge?This is same as the one on Trafalgar that was covered by a large binliner at the fleet review last summer. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

03-21-06, 01:17 AM	#11
lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I was on Torbay a couple of days before she sailed and the paint job's a bit weird, it's slightly glossy (as you can see in the photos) and a bit of a culture shock after 15 years orking on matt black boats Trenchant's colour scheme was very different when they tried it - it was a much lighter blue and was painted on in patches. I'm not sure if the patches were intended as disruptive camouflage or if it was just test patches. __________________ DOLPHIN 38

03-21-06, 02:15 AM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Now it just looks but ugly. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

03-21-06, 11:38 AM	#13
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well... it's gonna stick out like a sore thumb in the dark north atlantic... what's the plan with that, to repaint it every time it's deployed to a different part of the world... sandy tan in the carribean, maybe and what are they gonna do when the barnacles and other stuff starts attaching themselves to the hull... and the wethering effects start to wear away the new paint job... if they really wanted to do something crazy and far fetched, they should've design a skin that could change color with the differening environments... like a chameleon does... why didn't they ask me... i would've told em hey, my idea aint no worse than painting em all dayglow blue --Mike

03-21-06, 11:54 AM	#14
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I guess it must work if they are applying it to the fleet. N Atlantic they would be deep anyway most of the time. I am more interested in that new bit of kit on each side of the sail. __________________

03-21-06, 12:06 PM	#15
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Here are links to hi-res (wallpaper-size) photos of the RN's new Blue subs: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.5109 http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18905 http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18906 http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...ediaFile.18907 __________________ My Dangerous Waters website: