Irving case prompts Austria law debate

STEED · 02-21-06, 01:22 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4734570.stm

STEED · 02-21-06, 03:07 PM

Austria should sit down and have a hard think on this issue and move forward with a positive attitude. David Irving has by his own actions, has made himself a laughing stock in the real world, I for one will never read his books again and any way the last one was some 10 years ago.

TteFAboB · 02-21-06, 04:08 PM

It's not up to the Austrian government to do anything about it. It's up to the Austrian society to have an enviroment where Holocaust-denial theories are switfly and utterly refuted with arguments and historical facts that will deny the denial.

I am the Austrian founder of the Izan party, I do not believe in the Tsaucoloh. Does that bypass a censor law if I pledge I'm a whacko?

These laws don't make me any more confident in the Austrian resolve to deal with Nazism, quite the contrary, it's a good excuse not to do anything else. They have the law, they don't need to move a finger, Nazism is forbidden. Austria is Nazi-free.

Not really, how about organizing nation-wide debates with history students about the Holocaust as part of their history curriculum? Have the teachers present a denial thesis and let the students support or refute it. That would teach the next Austrian generation every argument in favour of the denial and why each of them is a fraud.

Sitting on top of a law is pure lazyness.

DangerousDaze · 02-21-06, 04:23 PM

Personally I think that law is ludicrous. If someone is so utterly ignorant enough to deny historical fact then that's their problem. People say there's no law against stupidity, but they're wrong.

Nick

STEED · 02-21-06, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Nazism is forbidden. Austria is Nazi-free.

Nice to here that and a good statement.

02-21-06, 01:22 PM	#1
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02-21-06, 03:07 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Austria should sit down and have a hard think on this issue and move forward with a positive attitude. David Irving has by his own actions, has made himself a laughing stock in the real world, I for one will never read his books again and any way the last one was some 10 years ago. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-21-06, 04:08 PM	#3
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It's not up to the Austrian government to do anything about it. It's up to the Austrian society to have an enviroment where Holocaust-denial theories are switfly and utterly refuted with arguments and historical facts that will deny the denial. I am the Austrian founder of the Izan party, I do not believe in the Tsaucoloh. Does that bypass a censor law if I pledge I'm a whacko? These laws don't make me any more confident in the Austrian resolve to deal with Nazism, quite the contrary, it's a good excuse not to do anything else. They have the law, they don't need to move a finger, Nazism is forbidden. Austria is Nazi-free. Not really, how about organizing nation-wide debates with history students about the Holocaust as part of their history curriculum? Have the teachers present a denial thesis and let the students support or refute it. That would teach the next Austrian generation every argument in favour of the denial and why each of them is a fraud. Sitting on top of a law is pure lazyness. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

02-21-06, 04:23 PM	#4
DangerousDaze Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Personally I think that law is ludicrous. If someone is so utterly ignorant enough to deny historical fact then that's their problem. People say there's no law against stupidity, but they're wrong. Nick __________________ SECURED - BLOWING SANITARY