NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod Beta Ver 0.06 Released

[Der Teddy Bar]

Ladies & Gentlemen,
Please find the link for the first release of the NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod Beta Ver 0.06 & the NYGM Ship Damage Mod Ver 0.39

A recap of the issue, done y Berry i.e. RUB, is at the bottom of this post.


I cannot stress enough, that your AI AA crew are not useless, but, they no longer have a Laser Guided Aiming System.

The AA gun no longer has a Laser Guided Aiming System. You AI AA gunners are now not going to be able to ‘nail an aircraft to the wall’ from over 2000 metres.



Aircraft will now be something to be feared and respected. They are not impossible, and most planes can be brought down with 1 and 2 bullets for the bombers. However, 95% of time this will not happen. The planes are not impossible. They are now both harder too hit as well as armoured.

The ability for a bullet to pierce the armour is determined by the bullet’s HP or if the bullet’s HP value alone is not enough it still may still get through when the bullet’s HP in conjunction with random Armour Piercing modifier give it enough HP’s. However, the Min/Max HP range for the bullet is large which will result in some bullets never getting through even with the modifiers.

The ability for a bullet to cause damage is Random.

In light of the AI’s ability to drop bombs very accurately I have reduced the bomb’s maximum blast area, while at the same time increasing the minimum range. That is, where as a 100kg bomb had a HP of 40 Min & 100 Max, it is now 100 for both Min & Max and where the range was 1 metre Min & 20 Metres Max it is now 5 metres Min & 10 metres Max.

It is I feel, and I hope that after playing, that you will agree, a good compromise when considering the many aspects of game play, including that of how the AI works. I will ask before dishing the bomb changes to give it a fair chance, then feel free to have your say.

I have adjusted the Airstike.cfg to increase the time between possible instances of aircraft showing up. This has not fixed the inherent RUB & other Mods airbase issues. I hope that I may have this addressed in the initial release of the NYGM Tonnage War Mod, but, as proper testing etc will be required it is most likely that the NYGM Airbase Mod will be an update.

What the Airstike.cfg changes do is to increase the time between instances of aircraft to 45 minutes up from the original 15. This is a very small bandaid on a much larger issue, but it will offer some small relief.




NYGM Ship Damage Mod 0.39 update
Small & Coastal Merchants <= sinking times decreased to one or more compartments and adjusted random variation of damage done to one or more compartments
Tankers <= all cargo compartment times reduced on a sliding scale for each ships capacity
Merchants & Tankers <= adjusted random variation of damage done to one or more compartments
Escorts <= sinking times decreased to one or more compartments & adjusted random variation of damage done to one or more compartments
Small vessels <= created sinking times and adjusted armour to suit


Files replaced…
Zones.cfg <= NOTE - This file includes changes for the NYGM Ship Damage Mod
AircraftName.zon
AircraftName.simShells.zon <= NOTE - This file includes changes for the NYGM Ship Damage Mod <=
Bombs.zonShip zon & cfg
AirStrike.cfg
CrewAI.cfg
Guns_SUB.sim <= NOTE - This file includes changes for the NYGM Ship Damage Mod <=

Originally Posted by Berry

Here's the problem: the AI can literally hit a gnat's whisker at a range of 2 miles. That means that (except for the first couple of rounds) every bullet fired from the time the AI open up until they stop (i.e. while the aircraft is in range) will hit the aircraft. It is impossible (as far as we know) to make the AI less accurate.

In RUb we tried making the aircraft armour plated to the maximum to offset this (this was the first thing we tried), but adding armour only goes so far, and after a while it starts to look ridiculous when you have aircraft taking thousands of FlAK hits without effect.

We also decreased the effectiveness of FlAK shells (this was the second thing we tried), but FlAK shells can only be made a little bit less effective otherwise players will have problems when using FlAK guns against other targets - PT boats etc.

The nerfs that we used up to this point began to affect the way the game looked because what was needed was a HUGE reduction in firepower to offset the AI's superhuman accuracy. The only alternative left to us was to reduce the range at which AI FlAK guns can fire. Even after doing all this, the FlAK guns are still uber.

It is still very possible to shoot down many more planes than was historically possible.

In WWII only 120 aircraft were shot down for the entire war and most of those were from 1942 onwards.

Between 1939 & 1943 only 10 aircraft were shot down...
1939 - 2 - U-30 2x Blackburn Skua NOTE: one was 'shot' down by it's own bomb bouncing off the water and exploding in the air.
1940 - 0
1941 - 1 - U-131 1 x Martlet
1942 - 7 - U-73 1 x Hudson, U-256 1 x Whitley, U-259 1 x Hudson, U-505 1 x Hudson, U-561 1 x Liberator, U-565 1 x Hudson, U-606 Catalina,

Please check out the u-boat.net's page on aircraft shot down http://uboat.net/history/aircraft_losses.htm.


As far as I can tell, the most aircraft shot down by one u-boat is an astounding number of 4!

2 Sep, 1942
(British Whitley aircraft, Squadron 77/H)

11 Mar, 1944
(Canadian Wellington aircraft, Squadron 407/H)
The aircraft seems to have crashed on its own during preparations for the attack run.

19 Mar, 1944
(British Liberator aircraft, Squadron 224/F)
The aircraft smashed into the sea 500m away from the boat and exploded.

7 Jun, 1944
(British Liberator aircraft, Squadron 224/M)

[HEMISENT]

Teddy, just DL'd the mod & will give it a shot later today

Thanks

[Pkunzipper]

Thanks Teddy, great set of mods!

Is there a mod-pack that contains all of your mods or do I have to download them all separately?

[Soviet_Warlord]

Originally Posted by Pkunzipper

Thanks Teddy, great set of mods!

Is there a mod-pack that contains all of your mods or do I have to download them all separately?

I think that once he's finished each individual component of NYGM, he will release it as the Tonnage War Mod. (If I understand correctly)

[HEMISENT]

Teddy check your PM

[HEMISENT]

Damn, what was I thinking. I transferred to LaSpezia to check out Marhkimov's ocean mod colors. now I'm stuck out here. Nearly a full bag of fuel, a full load of eels and no prospects for action in sight. Oh well. I'll just wait till I get back to port.

[Der Teddy Bar]

Originally Posted by Pkunzipper

Thanks Teddy, great set of mods!

Is there a mod-pack that contains all of your mods or do I have to download them all separately?

All the current NYGM Mods are components of the NYGM Tonnage War Mod. They have been released as stand alone mods to allow people to experience the NYGM Mods as they have been completed.

The NYGM Tonnage War Mod will include...
NYGM Tonnage War <= Tonnage is in, Renown is out. Everything is free, but takes time.
NYGM Ship Damage Mod
NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod
NYGM Crew Management Mod
NYGM Campaign Mod <= will inlcude a massive historical update of the Med
Rubini's Harbour Traffic
RUB 1.45 <= obviously a LOT gets changed by the NYGM Mods

Most likley as a update/next release,
NYGM Coastal Command Mod <= looking at air patrols etc

[Der Teddy Bar]

Please note that the AI AA ranges have been changed to...
Close 1000
Medium 2000
Long 3000

I would recomend at the start of a patrol you you immendiatly set the AA to Fire at will, set the range to medium & fire at incomming aircraft only.

Ammunition could now be a possible issue.

Even though you are very unlikely to attain many hits I have set the maximum range at 3000 metres. This is for the times that you are desperate to keep the plane away from you.

I would, as mentioned above, recomend using the medium setting of 2000 metres.

[CWorth]

Originally Posted by Der Teddy Bar

All the current NYGM Mods are components of the NYGM Tonnage War Mod. They have been released as stand alone mods to allow people to experience the NYGM Mods as they have been completed.

The NYGM Tonnage War Mod will include...
NYGM Tonnage War <= Tonnage is in, Renown is out. Everything is free, but takes time.
NYGM Ship Damage Mod
NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod
NYGM Crew Management Mod
NYGM Campaign Mod <= will inlcude a massive historical update of the Med
Rubini's Harbour Traffic
RUB 1.45 <= obviously a LOT gets changed by the NYGM Mods

Most likley as a update/next release,
NYGM Coastal Command Mod <= looking at air patrols etc

Will you have a version that does not have the Harbor traffic mod in or have it as an optional install?My system does not like the HT mod and crawls when in port.
Otherwise I am loving your NYGM mods that you havbe made so far.I just reinstalled my game after a bit of a break from it to try them out.So far I like what I am seeing.

[Der Teddy Bar]

Originally Posted by CWorth

Will you have a version that does not have the Harbor traffic mod in or have it as an optional install?

It is our intention to have a HT & Non-HT SCR file.

[LukeFF]

Teddy, what type of effect does the Flak Gunnery qualification have on the AI's accuracy, now?

[VonHelsching]

Der Teddy,

I am interested in the NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod only for the time being. Would you be so kind providing instructions on how can I split Aircraft Damage from Ship Damage? One obvious step would be eliminating the "sea" folder, right? Next?

Thanks,

VonHelsching

[Der Teddy Bar]

Originally Posted by VonHelsching

Der Teddy,

I am interested in the NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod only for the time being. Would you be so kind providing instructions on how can I split Aircraft Damage from Ship Damage? One obvious step would be eliminating the "sea" folder, right? Next?

Thanks,

VonHelsching

You will need to also strip out & replace the ship changes in the Zones.cfg.

I am surprised that you would want a realistic aircraft experience but not a ship sinking one, but, hey...

[VonHelsching]

I'm mostly a "gameplay" guy. So if I am to check the "realism" side of the Force, I would like to do it with baby steps. One at a time...

Thanks Teddy Bar

[Emcon]

Is it compatible with the hollywood advanced damage mod? I believe zones.cfg is modded in the Hol. advanced damage mod too...