Ohio SSBN

XabbaRus · 02-02-06, 03:36 PM

Need opinions

OK here are soem shots of my Ohio in progress.

I have started out by using a single cylinder and clever tweaking to get the turtle deck so it is one continuos structure. (Not as poly heavy as it looks).

Does it look A)Right Size, B)Right Shape, C)Right position

The other way I was thinking of doing it, and maybe better, having seen different pictures from different angles is to model the turtle deck seperately from the hull. Less polys involved maybe and in some ways the rear of the turtle deck actually seems to have a gap between it and the hull.

So opinions please. (Just don't be rude, be constructive.)

aaken · 02-02-06, 04:05 PM

hello, from the few pictures I have (basically the ones available at fas.org website http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/ssbn-726_i.htm) it would seem that the fore part of the deck should be attached to the bow of the cylinder further to the front. The deck seems to be too large and the sides should start bending down a little bit closer to the centerline. Also in your model it seems (but I don't see it very clearly) that the turtle deck is too well connected to the cylindrical hull. The sides of the deck at the center of the boat should be close to vertical, degrading a little bit when moving fore and aft. The after part of the bridge should probably attached a little bit aft; the shape of the after part of the cylindrical body seems consistent to the (few) pictures available.

sonar732 · 02-03-06, 08:17 AM

I would tend to agree that the aft part of the turtledeck needs to be slooped more into the deck. Also...please include the "gap" between the turtledeck and deck on the sides. Looking forward to the updates.

XabbaRus · 02-03-06, 08:42 AM

Cheers

I found a good pic of an Ohio in the water and it looks like I have the turtle deck slope starting too far aft.

The rear of the turtle deck does need to be more slopey too.

I think what I will do is try a seperate turtle deck that I will blend in with the main hull. That will also allow me to have the gap between turtle deck and hull.

I could attempt a gap on this model but it might screw it up too much.

No big deal this is the kind of feedback I like to get.

sonar732 · 02-03-06, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Cheers

I think what I will do is try a seperate turtle deck that I will blend in with the main hull. That will also allow me to have the gap between turtle deck and hull.

Awesome!

Have you thought about doing a model on the new Ohio SSGN based on the pictures in the "General" topics section?

XabbaRus · 02-03-06, 09:45 AM

Yep.

Shouldn't be too hard. I can't see much of a difference between the two turtle decks, SSGn vs SSBN.

sonar732 · 02-03-06, 10:14 AM

Along the lines of the turtledeck starting the slope too far aft...I can remember at Bangor along side Delta Pier, some poor nub having to go "shoo" away the seals off the aft side of the boat. Three or four of them would sunbathe there. There wasn't really that much room between the waterline and the aft of the turtledeck.

I looked at the photos in the General Topics section and it looks like the turtledeck just aft of the sail would need "minor" tweeking for SSGN.

Ramius · 02-03-06, 10:27 AM

XabbaRus · 02-03-06, 10:45 AM

Cheers Ramius

First two pictures aren't showing though.

awood6535 · 03-05-06, 11:29 AM

www.naturecoast.com/hobby/bn350101.htm
http://www.thatravenmagic.com/alabama.html

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 03-20-06, 11:55 AM

i caught a glimpse of the latest model, and it looks like the sail is too big Ramius...

it's one of the hardest things to size correctly, as models of the real thing don't always come across looking well in some games... fov maybe...

and you're right... the aft hull extends far past where the turtleback meets it, but you seem to be pretty close on that...

--Mike

02-02-06, 03:36 PM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ohio SSBN Need opinions OK here are soem shots of my Ohio in progress. I have started out by using a single cylinder and clever tweaking to get the turtle deck so it is one continuos structure. (Not as poly heavy as it looks). Does it look A)Right Size, B)Right Shape, C)Right position The other way I was thinking of doing it, and maybe better, having seen different pictures from different angles is to model the turtle deck seperately from the hull. Less polys involved maybe and in some ways the rear of the turtle deck actually seems to have a gap between it and the hull. So opinions please. (Just don't be rude, be constructive.) __________________

02-02-06, 04:05 PM	#2
aaken Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Naples Posts: 188 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 1	hello, from the few pictures I have (basically the ones available at fas.org website http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/ssbn-726_i.htm) it would seem that the fore part of the deck should be attached to the bow of the cylinder further to the front. The deck seems to be too large and the sides should start bending down a little bit closer to the centerline. Also in your model it seems (but I don't see it very clearly) that the turtle deck is too well connected to the cylindrical hull. The sides of the deck at the center of the boat should be close to vertical, degrading a little bit when moving fore and aft. The after part of the bridge should probably attached a little bit aft; the shape of the after part of the cylindrical body seems consistent to the (few) pictures available. __________________

02-03-06, 08:42 AM	#4
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Cheers I found a good pic of an Ohio in the water and it looks like I have the turtle deck slope starting too far aft. The rear of the turtle deck does need to be more slopey too. I think what I will do is try a seperate turtle deck that I will blend in with the main hull. That will also allow me to have the gap between turtle deck and hull. I could attempt a gap on this model but it might screw it up too much. No big deal this is the kind of feedback I like to get. __________________

02-03-06, 09:45 AM	#6
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yep. Shouldn't be too hard. I can't see much of a difference between the two turtle decks, SSGn vs SSBN. __________________

02-03-06, 10:27 AM	#8
Ramius Commander Join Date: May 2001 Location: At sea (again) Posts: 457 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	__________________ There is a forgotten, nay even forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England

02-03-06, 08:17 AM	#3
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I would tend to agree that the aft part of the turtledeck needs to be slooped more into the deck. Also...please include the "gap" between the turtledeck and deck on the sides. Looking forward to the updates.

02-03-06, 10:14 AM	#7
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Along the lines of the turtledeck starting the slope too far aft...I can remember at Bangor along side Delta Pier, some poor nub having to go "shoo" away the seals off the aft side of the boat. Three or four of them would sunbathe there. There wasn't really that much room between the waterline and the aft of the turtledeck. I looked at the photos in the General Topics section and it looks like the turtledeck just aft of the sail would need "minor" tweeking for SSGN.

02-03-06, 10:45 AM	#9
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Cheers Ramius First two pictures aren't showing though. __________________

03-05-06, 11:29 AM	#10
awood6535 A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grove City ,Ohio Posts: 72 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	hope this helps some sorry so late www.naturecoast.com/hobby/bn350101.htm http://www.thatravenmagic.com/alabama.html

03-20-06, 11:55 AM	#11
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i caught a glimpse of the latest model, and it looks like the sail is too big Ramius... it's one of the hardest things to size correctly, as models of the real thing don't always come across looking well in some games... fov maybe... and you're right... the aft hull extends far past where the turtleback meets it, but you seem to be pretty close on that... --Mike