WIP (Almost Finished) - Nipiwan Park Tanker (Help required)

AG124 · 12-21-05, 11:22 PM

Here is the last new ship I will complete before Christmas - the Canadian Tanker Nipiwan Park (2,400 GRT). The funnel needs to be shortened and widened, but the texturing isn't as bad as on some of my other ships. I would have liked to have added more elaborate tanker deck fittings, but the .dat kept rejecting them.

Are there any other improvements which I should make?

caspofungin · 12-22-05, 01:18 AM

looks great. any armament?

snowsub · 12-22-05, 03:39 AM

Lookin good AG

Stary Wuj · 12-22-05, 04:55 AM

Beautifull ship !

Stary Wuj

Schultzy · 12-22-05, 05:08 AM

Very good looking vessel! Even better through the periscope!

Can't wait, great job!

AG124 · 12-22-05, 09:30 AM

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looks great. any armament?

No, none of my ships are armed yet. A lot of the node points have been moved, and I am not sure of the most efficient way to move them. I guess I could use the newer version of pack3d a downloaded, but it seems like guess-and-check would be more inefficient for nodepoints than for 3d objects.

Panama Red · 12-22-05, 10:12 AM

Thanks for your continued contributions to this game.

coronas · 12-22-05, 07:01 PM

I'm happy to see more new ships and more, and more, and more....
All modders are makiing a wonderfull work. Thanks!

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-22-05, 07:05 PM

YESSSSSSS!!! Another merchant!!!

Great work!

rulle34 · 12-22-05, 08:38 PM

Looks very nice

AG124 · 12-22-05, 09:04 PM

I just halved the tanker and saved the new halves - but the game crashed as she broke in two.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make better ship halves?

I succeeded once, but did not really like the result. However, I may have to resort to this method again.

AG124 · 12-23-05, 06:48 PM

I tried another method which worked with the Rose Castle earlier, but the game still crashes as the tanker is about to break in two.

Has anyone here even made a new ship which was capable of breaking in two? If so, then I would really like some help here as I cannot get this ship to break in two properly. The Rose Castle had no problems such as this - I have no idea what to do.

iambecomelife · 12-24-05, 10:40 AM

That's another swee-looking small merchant ship.

I also experienced mysterious ctd's with several ships, including my NKG5 cargo ship. I'm not sure exactly what causes them, but I think part of the problem might be "stress" on the game as it tries to compute how different ships' parts ricochet off solid objects. If you have derricks and air vents embedded deep inside the hull, this may cause problems. After moving deck fixtures around for several hours I managed to create a version of the NKG5 that broke in two without crashing SH3. I hope this helps; I'm still solving this largely by trial and error.

AG124 · 12-24-05, 11:05 AM

That could be what the problem is - this tanker has the KSQ superstructure lowered into the hull and it's even intersected by the breaking point. With the Rose Castle (which worked fine) there was nothing inside of the hull. I will get rid of the lowered superstructure and try again.

Canaris · 12-25-05, 07:22 AM

Hm, i had a similar problem when i've done a ship for "Flottenbasis Kriegsjahr" campaign. It is made from the files of german "Blockadebrecher", bridge from aux cruiser and so on.

Because of that the german ship has to many mastnodes, ive deleted some of them by setting the ID for geometry and material to 0 and then every time when the ship was breaking sh3 crashed.
To make it somewhat shorter, their were SH3ZonesCtrl for all mastnodes named macara in zon file. After deleting of not used one all was fine.
Maybe that helps to solve your problem.

And merry christmas!

12-21-05, 11:22 PM	#1
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	WIP (Almost Finished) - Nipiwan Park Tanker (Help required) Here is the last new ship I will complete before Christmas - the Canadian Tanker Nipiwan Park (2,400 GRT). The funnel needs to be shortened and widened, but the texturing isn't as bad as on some of my other ships. I would have liked to have added more elaborate tanker deck fittings, but the .dat kept rejecting them. Are there any other improvements which I should make?

12-22-05, 03:39 AM	#3
snowsub 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Moreton bay Posts: 286 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lookin good AG __________________

12-22-05, 07:05 PM	#9
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	YESSSSSSS!!! Another merchant!!! Great work! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

12-22-05, 08:38 PM	#10
rulle34 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 835 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Looks very nice __________________

12-24-05, 10:40 AM	#13
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	That's another swee-looking small merchant ship. I also experienced mysterious ctd's with several ships, including my NKG5 cargo ship. I'm not sure exactly what causes them, but I think part of the problem might be "stress" on the game as it tries to compute how different ships' parts ricochet off solid objects. If you have derricks and air vents embedded deep inside the hull, this may cause problems. After moving deck fixtures around for several hours I managed to create a version of the NKG5 that broke in two without crashing SH3. I hope this helps; I'm still solving this largely by trial and error. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

12-22-05, 01:18 AM	#2
caspofungin Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	looks great. any armament?

12-22-05, 04:55 AM	#4
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Beautifull ship ! Stary Wuj

12-22-05, 05:08 AM	#5
Schultzy Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Großbritannien Posts: 452 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Very good looking vessel! Even better through the periscope! Can't wait, great job!

12-22-05, 10:12 AM	#7
Panama Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Irmo, SC, USA Posts: 229 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thanks for your continued contributions to this game.

12-22-05, 07:01 PM	#8
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I'm happy to see more new ships and more, and more, and more.... All modders are makiing a wonderfull work. Thanks!

12-22-05, 09:04 PM	#11
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I just halved the tanker and saved the new halves - but the game crashed as she broke in two. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make better ship halves? I succeeded once, but did not really like the result. However, I may have to resort to this method again.

12-23-05, 06:48 PM	#12
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I tried another method which worked with the Rose Castle earlier, but the game still crashes as the tanker is about to break in two. Has anyone here even made a new ship which was capable of breaking in two? If so, then I would really like some help here as I cannot get this ship to break in two properly. The Rose Castle had no problems such as this - I have no idea what to do.

12-24-05, 11:05 AM	#14
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	That could be what the problem is - this tanker has the KSQ superstructure lowered into the hull and it's even intersected by the breaking point. With the Rose Castle (which worked fine) there was nothing inside of the hull. I will get rid of the lowered superstructure and try again.

12-25-05, 07:22 AM	#15
Canaris Watch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Hm, i had a similar problem when i've done a ship for "Flottenbasis Kriegsjahr" campaign. It is made from the files of german "Blockadebrecher", bridge from aux cruiser and so on. Because of that the german ship has to many mastnodes, ive deleted some of them by setting the ID for geometry and material to 0 and then every time when the ship was breaking sh3 crashed. To make it somewhat shorter, their were SH3ZonesCtrl for all mastnodes named macara in zon file. After deleting of not used one all was fine. Maybe that helps to solve your problem. And merry christmas! __________________