damn - killed, but don't want to be dead

Keelbuster · 11-01-05, 12:36 PM

I've got a dilemma. I have (had) a great team, on their 22nd patrol in June '42. Last 3 have been out of the La Spezia and we've been using this time as a vacation from the insanity out on the atlantic. This last patrol we ran into a task force in perfect weather (CN39) - King George and 4 destroyers. I sunk KG with 4 torpedoes at 3km. It was beautiful. I escaped without a single DC. Which is all fine and dandy.

On the way home from our distant patrol grid (CO69), I was between Valletta and Bengasi in that space that is supposed to be air-cover free (by the map that comes with the game). Well, at 512 time compression my warning thing went red and an aircraft was spotted. I jumped to the keyboard and pressed periscope, then crash dive. U-47 dove hard and was almost under (tail showing) when one of those wide-winged planes dropped 6 DCs on her. It was bad. Front four compartments were red and flooding. Radio room team dead. I hit periscope depth adn started allocating damage teams. I have a great damage team - 4 people with repair skill. Now, we would have been able to fix the damage, but we were sinking - fast. I was still at flank speed, and we were going down at 11 knots. Bad bad bad. 180m. 220m. Fast - speeding up. At about 340 (i think), the bow compartment crushed and the boat followed.

U-47 lost. I can't handle that. I've loaded. But now I'm feeling guilty - i had intended to play for keeps, and was, up until now.

I want to finish the war - it's mid-1942 and i feel like it's only begun (22 patrols until now).

What would you guys do, in my fish-eaten shoes?

K.B.

wetwarev7 · 11-01-05, 01:02 PM

I know, it's tough, but you just gotta let it go........

I just lost my first carreer (16 patrols I think) recently, and it was really hard to start over, but now that I have, I have become equally fond of my new ship and crew, and strive even harder not to become fish bait. I think it's much more intense knowing that if you die, you die, and you just have to start over. Saying it is one thing, having lost a ship and crew really brings it home.....

FERdeBOER · 11-01-05, 01:21 PM

Everybody wants to survive the war...

Marhkimov · 11-01-05, 01:25 PM

Just remember that real captains had no choice over the matter... So what if they wanted to live???

Serverdaemon · 11-01-05, 01:30 PM

Bad loss...

Only thing you can do is learn from it...

- Full reverse all engines (if you're going down bow first)
-Blow all ballast
-Set to "Surface"
-Have one of your officers qualified as repair, (Helps a LOT), and have him join the repair team.

Just my $.02 worth...

Good luck on your next sortie

S

SteamWake · 11-01-05, 01:44 PM

War is hell.

But this is a game

Ultimatly it is up to you. But trust me if you decide to start anew each encounter will hold much more "weight" than they did before.

Twelvefield · 11-01-05, 03:06 PM

As long as you don't delete the career files, you can always go back to your prized crew. I definitely play dead-is-dead, and it's become a bit like second nature. I have recently had a string of careers where the ship only lasts a mission or two before we get killed. I never even thought of re-trying them. Still, my original 16-mission crew under Kaleun Mannfred von Leermiester is still there if I ever want to go back.

The Avon Lady · 11-01-05, 03:16 PM

If you go back in your career to restore your life, you're gonna go to hell.

So, what's the difference! :rotfl:

Keelbuster · 11-01-05, 03:55 PM

intense. I agree. I've said goodbye to Carl and his crew, and the wonderful killing machine that was U-47. If you guys wanna check out the words I wrote for me boys, check out:

www.dontgethurt.ca

scroll down a bit to Latest Glogs, and you'll see the sad headline.

k.b.

wetwarev7 · 11-01-05, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keelbuster

intense. I agree. I've said goodbye to Carl and his crew, and the wonderful killing machine that was U-47. If you guys wanna check out the words I wrote for me boys, check out:

www.dontgethurt.ca

scroll down a bit to Latest Glogs, and you'll see the sad headline.

k.b.

Heartwrenching......

Wolfram · 11-01-05, 04:00 PM

I admire your loyalty to your crew but the others I agree with - start over.

I checked your glog, nice.....

Kissaki · 11-01-05, 04:12 PM

It's true that the actual commanders had no choice. But if they did, you can bet your hiney they'd reload.

This is a game. I'm a sore loser. You do the math.

BettingUrlife · 11-01-05, 09:00 PM

The chances of making it through the entire campaign without getting sunk is pretty low, either you have to be more than very good, or more than very lucky. I don't have any qualms about reloading the first time through a game, I'd like to see the endgame screen at some point (even though SH3's endgame screen leaves a lot to be desired). After seeing that, Ironman rules are okay.

Kissaki · 11-01-05, 09:32 PM

What is the endgame screen? "Game over - you lose"?

Never played that far. I have a bunch of early-war savegames and just a few late war savegames. I always start in '39, and like the initial development.

Average Joe · 11-01-05, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keelbuster

>>>U-47 lost. I can't handle that. I've loaded. But now I'm feeling guilty - i had intended to play for keeps, and was, up until now.

I want to finish the war - it's mid-1942 and i feel like it's only begun (22 patrols until now).

What would you guys do, in my fish-eaten shoes?

K.B.

Another way to approach if ship and crew is lost; load your last save, exit patrol, 'return to base', and dismiss your entire (previously lost) crew. Then 'enlist' a brand-new crew. Re-purchase another sub if the renown is high enough. Then move-on to the next patrol.

(another thing to do is keep purchasing subs, until renown drops down to 1500 or so. Then there's no excess renown points).

For me this is the best way to deal with a lost crew and sub. Everything is lost, but the time-period stays the same. The enemy is tougher compared to early-war patrols. More challenging too because of a stripped-down sub, and a bunch of newly enlisted 'noobs' on my boat

11-01-05, 12:36 PM	#1
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	damn - killed, but don't want to be dead I've got a dilemma. I have (had) a great team, on their 22nd patrol in June '42. Last 3 have been out of the La Spezia and we've been using this time as a vacation from the insanity out on the atlantic. This last patrol we ran into a task force in perfect weather (CN39) - King George and 4 destroyers. I sunk KG with 4 torpedoes at 3km. It was beautiful. I escaped without a single DC. Which is all fine and dandy. On the way home from our distant patrol grid (CO69), I was between Valletta and Bengasi in that space that is supposed to be air-cover free (by the map that comes with the game). Well, at 512 time compression my warning thing went red and an aircraft was spotted. I jumped to the keyboard and pressed periscope, then crash dive. U-47 dove hard and was almost under (tail showing) when one of those wide-winged planes dropped 6 DCs on her. It was bad. Front four compartments were red and flooding. Radio room team dead. I hit periscope depth adn started allocating damage teams. I have a great damage team - 4 people with repair skill. Now, we would have been able to fix the damage, but we were sinking - fast. I was still at flank speed, and we were going down at 11 knots. Bad bad bad. 180m. 220m. Fast - speeding up. At about 340 (i think), the bow compartment crushed and the boat followed. U-47 lost. I can't handle that. I've loaded. But now I'm feeling guilty - i had intended to play for keeps, and was, up until now. I want to finish the war - it's mid-1942 and i feel like it's only begun (22 patrols until now). What would you guys do, in my fish-eaten shoes? K.B. __________________

11-01-05, 01:02 PM	#2
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I know, it's tough, but you just gotta let it go........ I just lost my first carreer (16 patrols I think) recently, and it was really hard to start over, but now that I have, I have become equally fond of my new ship and crew, and strive even harder not to become fish bait. I think it's much more intense knowing that if you die, you die, and you just have to start over. Saying it is one thing, having lost a ship and crew really brings it home..... __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

11-01-05, 01:21 PM	#3
FERdeBOER XO Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 431 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 1	Everybody wants to survive the war... __________________ Hay dos tipos de buques: los submarinos... y los blancos. There are two types of ships: the subs... and the targets.

11-01-05, 01:25 PM	#4
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just remember that real captains had no choice over the matter... So what if they wanted to live??? __________________ It takes two to tango

11-01-05, 01:30 PM	#5
Serverdaemon Loader Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA. Posts: 81 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bad loss... Only thing you can do is learn from it... - Full reverse all engines (if you're going down bow first) -Blow all ballast -Set to "Surface" -Have one of your officers qualified as repair, (Helps a LOT), and have him join the repair team. Just my $.02 worth... Good luck on your next sortie S __________________ \"Never interrupt an enemy while he is making a mistake...\" ~N. Bonaparte

11-01-05, 01:44 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	War is hell. But this is a game Ultimatly it is up to you. But trust me if you decide to start anew each encounter will hold much more "weight" than they did before.

11-01-05, 03:06 PM	#7
Twelvefield Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 186 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As long as you don't delete the career files, you can always go back to your prized crew. I definitely play dead-is-dead, and it's become a bit like second nature. I have recently had a string of careers where the ship only lasts a mission or two before we get killed. I never even thought of re-trying them. Still, my original 16-mission crew under Kaleun Mannfred von Leermiester is still there if I ever want to go back.

11-01-05, 03:16 PM	#8
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	If you go back in your career to restore your life, you're gonna go to hell. So, what's the difference! :rotfl: __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

11-01-05, 03:55 PM	#9
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	intense. I agree. I've said goodbye to Carl and his crew, and the wonderful killing machine that was U-47. If you guys wanna check out the words I wrote for me boys, check out: www.dontgethurt.ca scroll down a bit to Latest Glogs, and you'll see the sad headline. k.b. __________________

11-01-05, 04:00 PM	#11
Wolfram Weps Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: periscope depth Posts: 354 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I admire your loyalty to your crew but the others I agree with - start over. I checked your glog, nice.....

11-01-05, 04:12 PM	#12
Kissaki Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 268 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It's true that the actual commanders had no choice. But if they did, you can bet your hiney they'd reload. This is a game. I'm a sore loser. You do the math.

11-01-05, 09:00 PM	#13
BettingUrlife Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: AM56 North Atlantic Posts: 128 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The chances of making it through the entire campaign without getting sunk is pretty low, either you have to be more than very good, or more than very lucky. I don't have any qualms about reloading the first time through a game, I'd like to see the endgame screen at some point (even though SH3's endgame screen leaves a lot to be desired). After seeing that, Ironman rules are okay.

11-01-05, 09:32 PM	#14
Kissaki Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 268 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	What is the endgame screen? "Game over - you lose"? Never played that far. I have a bunch of early-war savegames and just a few late war savegames. I always start in '39, and like the initial development.