Do you want MORE random names for SH3 Commander

[Marhkimov]

Here's hoping that Jaesen will use my updated version of the random names in SH3Cmdr. I've added quite a bit more German names to the list. These names are used by SH3 Commander in generating random Captain and Crewmen names.

Please scroll down and if you would like, feel free to browse through the list of names and post your comments (and don't forget to Vote!).


-PULLED DUE TO ISSUES- hopefully they will be worked out...

**EDIT**

SH3 Commander currently cannot support so many names. If you make it known that you would like more names to be added to SH3 Commander, VOTE YES! and let Jaeson know about it!






**NOTE: do not copy and paste this list into your 'SH3Cmdr.cfg' file; it is in 'html' format and will not work.

[FIRST NAMES]
FIRST=Adalbert,Adalbert,Adam,Adel,Adolf,Adolf,Adol ph,Adolph,Adrian,Alberich,Alberich,Albert,Albert,A lbert,Albrecht,Albrecht,Aldemar,
Aldemar,Alexander,Alexander,Alfred,Alfred,Alfred,A lfred,Alfred,Alois,Aloisus,Aloysus,Amelung,Andreas ,Andreas,Andreas,Anton,Anton,
Anton,Anton,Armin,Armin,Arndt,Arndt,Arne,Arnold,Ar nold,Arnold,Arnold,Arthur,Arthur,Artur,Asmus,Augus t,August,August,Aurel,Axel,
Axel,Axel,Baldur,Bastian,Bastian,Benedikt,Benedikt ,Benjamin,Benjamin,Benjamin,Bernard,Bernard,Bernar d,Bernd,Bernhard,Bernhard,
Berthold,Bonifaz,Bonifaz,Bonifaz,Bonifaz,Bruno,Bru no,Bruno,Carl,Carl,Carl,Carl,Carsten,Christian,Chr istian,Christian,Christian,Christian,
Christian,Christof,Christof,Christoph,Christoph,Cl aus,Claus,Clemens,Clemens,Clemens,Conrad,Conrad,Co nstantine,Cornelius,Cornelius,
Curt,Curt,Daniel,Daniel,Daniel,Dedrick,Dedrick,Ded rick,Dedrick,Degen,Degen,Detlef,Diederick,Dieter,D ieter,Dieter,Dierk,Dietmar,Dietrich,
Dirk,Dirk,Dirk,Dirk,Dirk,Dirk,Dominik,Dominik,Ebbe ,Ebbe,Ebbe,Edmund,Edmund,Edmund,Edmund,Edmund,Edmu nd,Emmanuel,Emmanuel,
Emmanuel,Emmanuel,Emil,Emil,Emil,Eckhardt,Engel,En gel,Erdmann,Erhard,Erhard,Ehrhard,Ehrhard,Erhart,E rhart,Erich,Erich,Erich,Erich,
Erich,Erik,Erik,Erik,Ernest,Ernest,Ernest,Ernest,E rnst,Ernst,Ernst,Ernst,Ernst,Erwin,Erwin,Erwin,Etz el,Eugen,Eugen,Eugen,Eugen,Evert,
Ewald,Ewald,Ewald,Fabian,Fabian,Fabian,Fabian,Fabi an,Franz,Franz,Felix,Felix,Felix,Frank,Frank,Frank ,Frank,Frank,Frank,Frank,
Ferdinand,Ferdinand,Ferdinand,Ferdinand,Ferdinand, Franz,Franz,Friede,Friedemann,Friederike,Friederik e,Friedhelm,Friedhold,Friedrich,
Friedrich,Friedrich,Friedrich,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fr itz,Fritz,Fritz,Froiland,Gabriel,Gabriel,Gabriel,G abriel,Gebbert,Gebhard,Geert,Geert,Georg,
Georg,Georg,Georg,Georg,Georg,Gerd,Gereon,Gerfried ,Gerhard,Gerhard,Gerhard,Gerhard,Gerhard,Gerhard,G erhardt,Gerhardt,Gerhold,
Gerhold,Gerrit,Gerwald,Gerwald,Gottfried,Gottfried ,Gottfried,Gottfried,Gotthard,Gotthold,Gottlieb,Go ttlieb,Gottlieb,Gottschalk,Götz,Götz,
Gregor,Gregor,Gregor,Gregor,Gregor,Gregor,Günter, Günter,Günther,Günther,Günther,Günther,Hagan, Hanke,Hannes,Hans,Hans,Hans,
Hans,Hans,Hans,Hans,Hans,Hans,Harald,Harald,Harro, Hartwig,Hartwig,Heinrich,Heinrich,Heinrich,Heinric h,Heinrich,Heinrich,Heinrich,
Heinrich,Heino,Heinz,Heinz,Heinz,Heinz,Heinz,Heinz ,Heinz,Heinz,Helmfried,Helmfried,Helmfried,Helmut, Helmut,Helmut,Helmut,Helmut,
Helmut,Hendrik,Hendrik,Henning,Henrik,Henry,Henry, Herbert,Herbert,Herbert,Herbert,Herbert,Herbert,He rmann,Hermann,Hermann,
Hermann,Hermann,Hermann,Hildebrand,Hildebrand,Hild ebrand,Horst,Horst,Horst,Huber,Huber,Hubert,Hugo,H ugo,Hugo,Hugo,Hugo,
Ignatz,Immanuel,Isidor,Ivo,Iwan,Izaak,Jan,Jacob,Ja kob,Jeremias,Joachim,Jochem,Jochen,Jochim,Johan,Jo han,Johan,Johan,Johann,
Johann,Johann,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes, Jonas,Jonas,Jörg,Jörg,Josef,Josef,Jost,Jozef,Joz ef,Julius,Jürgen,Jürgen,Jürgen,
Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Karl,Kilia n,Klaas,Klaus,Klaus,Klemens,Klemens,Konrad,Konrad, Konrad,Konstantin,Körbl,Kunibert,
Kurt,Kurt,Kurt,Kurt,Lambert,Lambert,Lambert,Lammer t,Lamprecht,Lanzo,Lanzo,Leberecht,Lenz,Lenz,Lenz,L enz,Lenz,Lenz,Leo,Leo,Leo,
Leo,Leon,Leon,Leonhard,Lorenz,Lorenz,Lorenz,Lothai r,Lothair,Ludger,Luitger,Luitpold,Lukas,Lucas,Luca ,Ludwig,Ludwig,Ludwig,Lutz,
Lutz,Lutz,Lutz,Lutz,Manfred,Manfred,Manfried,Marce l,Marcel,Marcel,Marcel,Marco,Marco,Marco,Marco,Mar co,Marius,Marius,Markus,
Martin,Martin,Mathias,Mathias,Mathias,Mathias,Math ias,Matthias,Mathis,Max,Max,Max,Maximilian,Maximil ian,Meinard,Meino,Meinrad,
Merten,Merten,Merten,Michael,Michael,Michael,Micha el,Michel,Moritz,Nicolai,Nickolaus,Nickolaus,Nikla us,Niklaus,Nikolaus,Nikolaus,
Norbert,Orel,Orel,Oskar,Oskar,Oskar,Oskar,Oskar,Ot to,Otto,Otto,Otto,Otto,Otto,Otto,Parsifal,Patrick, Patrick,Patrick,Paul,Paul,Paul,
Peter,Peter,Peter,Peter,Philipp,Radulf,Rafael,Rafa el,Raimund,Raimund,Raimund,Raimund,Raimund,Rainer, Rainer,Ralf,Ralph,Ralph,
Reimund,Rein,Reiner,Reiner,Reinhard,Reinhard,Reinh ard,Reinhart,Richard,Richard,Richard,Robert,Rolf,R olf,Roman,Ronni,Rudi,Rudolf,
Rudolf,Rudolf,Rupert,Sascha,Sebastian,Sebastian,Se bastian,Sebastian,Seppel,Severin,Siegfried,Siegfri ed,Siegfried,Siegmund,Sigmund,
Silvester,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan,Steffen,Step han,Stephan,Stephen,Sven,Theodor,Theodor,Theodor,T ill,Tomas,Tomas,Tomas,
Thomas,Thomas,Thomas,Thomas,Thomas,Tobias,Tobias,U do,Ulrich,Ulrich,Ulrich,Utz,Uwe,Valentin,Vestor,Vi ctor,Victor,Viktor,Viktor,
Vinzenz,Vinzenz,Volker,Waldemar,Waldo,Waldo,Waldo, Waldo,Walter,Walter,Walter,Walter,Walter,Walter,Wa lther,Walther,Walther,
Wendel,Wendel,Wendel,Wendel,Wendel,Wendel,Wenzel,W enzeslaus,Werner,Werner,Werner,Werner,Werner,Werne r,Werner,Werner,
Werther,Wieland,Wilfried,Wilfried,Wilfried,Wilfrie d,Wilhelm,Wilhelm,Wilhelm,Wilhelm,Wilhelm,Winfried ,Winfried,Winfried,Willi,Willi,Willi,
Willy,Willy,Willy,Willy,Wolfgang,Wolfram,Xaver,Yvo

[LAST NAMES]
LAST=Aachen,Abend,Abendroth,Achen,Ackermann,Ackerm ann,Ackermann,Adler,Apel,Arnold,Austerlitz,Baader, Baader,Babel,Bach,
Bäcker,Bäcker,Bäcker,Bäcker,Bader,Baer,Baier,B auer,Bauer,Bauer,Bauer,Baum,Bauman,Bayer,Bayer,Bau mgaertner,Baumgartner,
Bumgarner,Baur,Beckenbauer,Becker,Becker,Becker,Be ich,Beike,Berg,Bergmann,Berke,Berlitz,Berlitz,Beye r,Bielig,Biermann,Bilstein,
Blank,Blau,Bleek,Boch,Boehm,Böhling,Böhm,Böhm,B osch,Bothmann,Bouman,Brandt,Brandi,Braun,Braun,Bra un,Brehme,Brummer,Busch,
Bülow,Clausen,Claussen,Dabelow,Daimler,Dammeier,D ecker,Degen,Deuschmann,Deuschmann,Diederich,Dietri ch,Dresner,Dittmer,
Drechsler,Drescher,Drescher,Drechsler,Dreher,Dresd ner,Dresner,Dziallas,Ebersbach,Ebersbach,Eberhardt ,Eberhardt,Eichel,Eichmann,
Eichmann,Ehrlichmann,Eick,Eisenhauer,Eisen,Eisenho wer,Emerich,Emerich,Emmerich,Emmerich,Emmerich,End rass,Eschger,Esser,
Färber,Faust,Feierabend,Fiedler,Fischer,Fischer,F isher,Folkers,Folkers,Forstner,Fleischer,Fleischer ,Frankfurter,Frei,Freud,Frey,Freyberg,
Friedmann,Friedman,Frings,Fuchs,Fuchs,Fruehauf,Fue rst,Fuhrmann,Gaertner,Gante,Gärtner,Gelhaus,Gerbe r,Gersten,Gloeckner,
Glockner,Göseke,Gottlieb,Gottlieb,Gottlieb,Gottsc halk,Gruenewald,Grunewald,Grunwald,Gundlach,Gütsc how,Gysae,Haas,Hahn,Hahn,
Hahn,Hahn,Hänsel,Hänsel,Hänsel,Hardegen,Harowit z,Hartenstein,Hartmann,Hartmann,Heilmann,Heinz,Hei nz,Hellmann,Henke,Hentrop,
Herman,Hermann,Herrmann,Herrmann,Herrmann,Hertin,H ertz,Hertz,Hertz,Hertz,Hertzog,Hessler,Heyer,Heyse ,Hilse,Himmel,Hinrich,
Hinrich,Hirsch,Hirtl,Hoch,Hofmann,Hoffmann,Hoffman n,Hoffmann,Holstein,Holtz,Holtz,Hölzer,Holtzmann, Holtzinger,Hönemann,Hötzer,
Huber,Hueber,Ites,Jäckel,Jaeger,Jager,Jahnkow,Jan z,Jenisch,Jordon,Jung,Jung,Jungman,Junker,Kaeding, Kaeding,Kaestner,Kastner,
Kaiser,Kaiser,Kals,Kappel,Kasprzak,Kaufmann,Kaufma nn,Kaufmann,Kaufmann,Kaufmann,Keller,Keller,Keller ,Kiepert,Kilimann,Kissinger,
Kirsch,Kläbisch,Klein,Klein,Klein,Klein,Klein,Klu g,Kluge,Koch,Koehler,Koehler,Kohl,Kohl,Kohler,Köh ler,Köhler,Köhler,König,König,Koenig,
Konig,Kopp,Korth,Kraus,Kraus,Krause,Krause,Krause, Krause,Krech,Krey,Kriegel,Kroll,Krueger,Kruger,Kru pke,Kueper,Kuper,Kühl,Kühn,
Kuhnke,Kuppisch,Küsel,Lang,Lang,Lange,Lange,Lange ,Lasch,Lassen,Lehmann,Lehmann,Lehmann,Lehrer,Leidi g,Lemp,Libe,Limbach,
Lobin,Loewe,Loh,Löhr,Lösch,Lowe,Lowe,Lowe,Lube,L uft,Lüddecke,Lüth,Maddaus,Mahler,Mantyk,Maier,Ma us,Mauer,Maur,Maurer,Meier,
Meier,Meier,Merten,Metzger,Metzler,Meyer,Meyer,Mey er,Meyer,Miedza,Moehle,Moench,Mohr,Möller,Möller ,Muder,Mueller,Mueller,
Muench,Muller,Müller,Müller,Müller,Müller,Mül ler,Müller,Nacht,Nadel,Nagler,Nagel,Neudorf,Neuma nn,Neumann,Neustadt,Nimitz,Notsch,
Oehrn,Oesten,Oldekop,Oster,Osterhagen,Ostermann,Os termann,Pabst,Papst,Panknin,Pauss,Peters,Peters,Pe ters,Peters,Petersen,
Petersen,Petersen,Petersen,Petersen,Pfaff,Pfeffer, Pfeifer,Pfeifer,Pfeiffer,Pfeiffer,Piening,Popp,Pos ke,Prien,Probst,Radloff,Rappold,Rasch,
Reche,Reichmann,Reimann,Reinhard,Reinhardt,Reinhar dt,Reinprecht,Renken,Richter,Richter,Richter,Ritte r,Roethlisberger,Rogowsky,
Rohweder,Rollmann,Rollmann,Römer,Rösing,Rostin,R oth,Röther,Säck,Salman,Sammann,Sander,Schacht,Sc hacht,Schaefer,Schael,
Schäfer,Schäfer,Schäfer,Schall,Scheer,Schepke,S cherer,Schewe,Schiffer,Schlesinger,Schlesinger,Sch licht,Schmidt,Schmidt,Schmidt,
Schmidt,Schmidt,Schmidtt,Schmidtt,Schmitt,Schmitt, Schmitt,Schmitt,Schnee,Schneider,Schneider,Schneid er,Schneider,Scholtz,Scholz,
Scholz,Schönerr,Schreiber,Schreiber,Schreiner,Sch röder,Schröder,Schroeder,Schroeder,Schroder,Schr oder,Schuhart,Schulz,Schulz,
Schulz,Schultze,Schultze,Schuhmacher,Schuhmacher,S chuhmacher,Schultheiss,Schuster,Schütze,Schwab,Sc hwartz,Schwartz,Schwarz,
Schwarz,Schweitzer,Schweizer,Seiler,Switzer,Sellho rn,Simon,Smyczek,Soden,Söllig,Sommer,Spahr,Sporer ,Staats,Steimle,Steinweg,
Stephan,Strauss,Strauss,Strauss,Strelow,Strunk,Suh ren,Suhren,Suraj,Thalberg,Theiss,Theissen,Thewes,T homsen,Thurmann,Timm,
Timm,Topp,Traugott,Trojer,Trommler,Unger,Urner,Vog el,Vogler,Vogt,Waechter,Wagner,Wagner,Wagner,Wagne r,Walter,Weber,Weber,
Weber,Wechsler,Weiß,Weiß,Weiß,Weiß,Weingart,We iss,Weiss,Weiss,Weiss,Weiss,Weissmuller,Weisz,Weis z,Weisz,Werfel,Wessels,
Wiebe,Wiebe,Wiebe,Wiebe,Winkel,Wirth,Wirtz,Wissman n,Witt,Witte,Wolf,Wolf,Wolf,Worbs,Wulf,Wulf,Wurfel ,Zapp,Ziegler,Zimmer,
Zimmer,Zimmer,Zimmerman,Zimmerman,Zimmermann,Zimme rmann,Zimmermann,Zürn,Zweig,Zwick,Zwick

[Kpt. Lehmann]

THANKS MARHKIMOV!!!

[JScones]

Wish I could add this many names - but unfortunately there's a system limit of 2048 characters plus commas. You'll find that you won't get many, if any, random names after about Haga and Krey respectively.

You could, however, prolly get in about 50-60 names each on top of the default list without hitting this limit.

If you want to trim your list, you may not know but you can also add names with spaces by surrounding with double quotes - ie "von Ronstedt".

Also, to preserve user data, SH3Cmdr never overwrites SH3Cmdr.ini, meaning that current users would still need to download and copy and paste. New users would get the extra names without needing to follow these steps.

And one more thing - not so much an issue with crewmen but it is with commanders - there's a 16 char name limit, so it may be best to limit the length of each name to around 8 chars (you'll also fit more in too )

Great work though!

[Marhkimov]

Originally Posted by JScones

Wish I could add this many names - but unfortunately there's a system limit of 2048 characters plus commas. You'll find that you won't get many, if any, random names after about Haga and Krey respectively.

aww, crap... i was hoping that wouldn't be the case... is there any way to get around the 2048 character system limit?? Perhaps use a seperate file or two (or three or four or five! ) that contain only names??

Originally Posted by JScones

If you want to trim your list, you may not know but you can add names with spaces by surrounding with double quotes - ie "von Ronstedt".

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Thanks!

Originally Posted by JScones

Also, to preserve user data, SH3Cmdr never overwrites SH3Cmdr.ini, meaning that current users would still need to download and copy and paste. New users would get the extra names without needing to follow these steps.

Yep, that's why I didn't offer my own ini file as a download. I did not want anyone to lose their personal data on my behalf...

Originally Posted by JScones

Great work though

It should be. I spent hours on this...

i hope it could possibly be made to work.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Very interested and watching

[Marhkimov]

Originally Posted by JScones

And one more thing - not so much an issue with crewmen but it is with commanders - there's a 16 char name limit, so it may be best to limit the length of each name to around 8 chars (you'll also fit more in too )

Got it! Ok, all of the long names will have to go...

[Marhkimov]

Considering that this is a videogame, the only real method that we have for knowing our crewmen, is by their names. That fact alone, makes me want to have a very deep and comphrehensive database of names, so that their is a similar variation in "personalities."

Perhaps you can already feel it, but I am very adamant about getting all of these names into SH3 Commander. It is not about getting my name in the credits or anything; I could care less... I just want my men to have more varied personalities.

[JScones]

If players are really keen on unlimited names, I could build a work around. It won't be the prettiest, but it will work. That is,

FIRST=Adalbert,Adalbert,Adam,Adel,Adolf,Adolf,Adol ph,Adolph,Adrian,Alberich...etc up to Fabian

FIRST2=Franz,Franz,Felix,Felix,Felix,Frank,Frank,F rank,Frank,Frank,Frank,Frank...etc up to Johann

FIRST3=Johann,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes, Jonas,Jonas,Jörg,Jörg...etc up to Siegfried

FIRST4=Siegfried,Siegfried,Siegmund,Sigmund,Silves ter,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan...etc up to Yvo

FIRST5...etc up to FIRST32767

The name split is just an example - as long as each line is no more than 2048 chars it should be OK. But I will only invest time in this if there is significant interest.

[Marhkimov]

You know what Jaeson? I will build the up the community interest, if necessary...

I am not only a first rate textureman, but I am also a second rate propagandaman.

[Marhkimov]

Originally Posted by JScones

If players are really keen on unlimited names, I could build a work around. It won't be the prettiest, but it will work. That is,

FIRST=Adalbert,Adalbert,Adam,Adel,Adolf,Adolf,Adol ph,Adolph,Adrian,Alberich...etc up to Fabian

FIRST2=Franz,Franz,Felix,Felix,Felix,Frank,Frank,F rank,Frank,Frank,Frank,Frank...etc up to Johann

FIRST3=Johann,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes,Johannes, Jonas,Jonas,Jörg,Jörg...etc up to Siegfried

FIRST4=Siegfried,Siegfried,Siegmund,Sigmund,Silves ter,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan,Stefan...etc up to Yvo

FIRST5...etc up to FIRST32767

The name split is just an example - as long as each line is no more than 2048 chars it should be OK. But I will only invest time in this if there is significant interest.

Sounds great, but do you have an idea of how the programming will work?

Will it randomize between lists (FIRST1, FIRST2... to FIRST5) and then choose a name from that list?

That would work, but there is a flaw to that method. Rare names would have an increased chance of being chosen this way (i.e. names beginning with W,X,Y,Z). I'm not a programmer, but I am a theorist, and this is my two cents...

If you have another randomizing technique, what is it?

[Marhkimov]

Oh, and here's another thing I noticed...


Instead of writing Fritz nine times, like this:

...Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz ,Fritz...

would it be possible to do this?

...9Fritz... or ...Fritz9...



Now there is a REAL space-saver!

[Beery]

The problem, from my perspective, is the fact that the current names in the file are a commemoration of sorts. All of the names are derived from names of the commanders who scored 50,000 tons or more, the crewmen on the most successful U-boats, and the most decorated crewmen in the Ubootwaffe. I would not be too willing to have the names watered down (so to speak) by the addition of names that may have had nothing to do with the U-boat war.

Additional names are fine in theory, but I'd like to know how these new names were found - whether they have any historical significance?

[Marhkimov]

THey are GERMAN names, and that is their significance...

Not to bust your bubble or anything, but it was the German PEOPLE who fought in the war, not the German captains, leutenants, nor admirals...

IMOH, we give too much credit to the leaders and high ranking officers of WWII...
but what about THE GOOD OL' PEOPLE???





P.S. For the naming process, I used Germanic Geneology Databases... 99.9% accuracy.

[Beery]

Originally Posted by marhkimov

THey are GERMAN names, and that is their significance...

Not to bust your bubble or anything, but it was the German PEOPLE who fought in the war, not the German captains, leutenants, nor admirals...

IMOH, we give too much credit to the leaders and high ranking officers of WWII...
but what about THE GOOD OL' PEOPLE???

Most of the names are regular crewmen, not captains, officers or other leaders.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by marhkimov

Sounds great, but do you have an idea of how the programming will work?

Will it randomize between lists (FIRST1, FIRST2... to FIRST5) and then choose a name from that list?

That would work, but there is a flaw to that method. Rare names would have an increased chance of being chosen this way (i.e. names beginning with W,X,Y,Z). I'm not a programmer, but I am a theorist, and this is my two cents...

If you have another randomizing technique, what is it?

Are you telling me how to suck eggs? Just take a chill pill will ya.

Originally Posted by marhkimov

Oh, and here's another thing I noticed...


Instead of writing Fritz nine times, like this:

...Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz,Fritz ,Fritz...

would it be possible to do this?

...9Fritz... or ...Fritz9...

Now there is a REAL space-saver!

No. It's single dimension only. I am most definitely *not* adding a second dimension to it.